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« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2024, 12:27:00 pm »

I assumed he meant Fangio failed as a coach...but I also was unsure.  Bellichek is arguably the best ever.  The curmudgeon style might be aging out, but the dude got it done.
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« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2024, 01:40:45 pm »

And Bill Belichick is a cranky old man with power issues just like Fangio. You see where he is. that's why he failed as a head coach. Fangio's retirement most likely isn't far behind.

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« Reply #47 on: April 05, 2024, 03:53:09 pm »

I assumed he meant Fangio failed as a coach...but I also was unsure.  Bellichek is arguably the best ever.  The curmudgeon style might be aging out, but the dude got it done.
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« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2024, 05:50:03 am »

So part of that money we saved in the recent restructures has gone to... Kader Kohou, who got paid the fifth largest performance bonus in the NFL last season for starting 16 games.

https://sports.yahoo.com/kader-kohou-earns-nfl-5th-185552505.html
https://www.thephinsider.com/2024/4/4/24121519/miami-dolphins-cb-kader-kohou-cashes-in-with-performance-based-pay-bump

"Opposing quarterbacks completed 84 percent of passes when targeting Kohou in coverage. He surrendered 791 yards and seven touchdowns, according to PFF..."

Well, that's money well spent. (Yes, I'm being sarcastic).

I mean good on the kid to have that written in his contract - but we really are up shit creek when we can't hang on to the players we need and do this.
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« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2024, 12:22:53 pm »

So part of that money we saved in the recent restructures has gone to... Kader Kohou, who got paid the fifth largest performance bonus in the NFL last season for starting 16 games.

https://sports.yahoo.com/kader-kohou-earns-nfl-5th-185552505.html
https://www.thephinsider.com/2024/4/4/24121519/miami-dolphins-cb-kader-kohou-cashes-in-with-performance-based-pay-bump

"Opposing quarterbacks completed 84 percent of passes when targeting Kohou in coverage. He surrendered 791 yards and seven touchdowns, according to PFF..."

Well, that's money well spent. (Yes, I'm being sarcastic).

I mean good on the kid to have that written in his contract - but we really are up shit creek when we can't hang on to the players we need and do this.

This was not something he had written into his specific contract it is part of the CBA and it doesn’t count against the salary cap.

Any player that is at the top of this list is a bargain for the team, it means you have a very low paid player that is playing a large number of snaps, might indicate you have other higher paid players not playing much (which is an indication of poor allocation of resources) but the player collecting a large performance bonus is not the problem.
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« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2024, 02:55:08 pm »

^^^^ correct. He was an undrafted signee and played very well in his first season. This past season he was playing another position because we were in such bad shape and was exposed. Either way, he's been a bargain for Miami as far as salary.
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« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2024, 09:31:32 am »

Yeah sorry guys, I missed the mark with that rant.

It's just we've been so bad this offseason, it seemed like one of our usual snafu moments.

Ps. I'm still shaking my head in disbelief we offered OBJ a contract when there are so many other pressing needs...
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« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2024, 10:53:51 am »

Yeah sorry guys, I missed the mark with that rant.

It's just we've been so bad this offseason, it seemed like one of our usual snafu moments.

Ps. I'm still shaking my head in disbelief we offered OBJ a contract when there are so many other pressing needs...
I have no idea how much we are offering OBJ but the guesses by media members are around 7-8 million a year. If that's the case then I have no issue with it. If it's the 18 million given to him by Baltimore then I'd balk.
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« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2024, 07:22:42 pm »

Yeah some of the losses hurt. Especially Wilkins but I’m not mad with X gone.

I think Fuller will be better. I think we added some good depth and special teams players.

If we can land OBJ or a good 3rd WR and get the best player available in the draft I think we can do just fine on offense.

This is the dolphins so I won’t be surprised at 4-13 next year lol but I don’t think it’s reason to think the sky is falling.
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« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2024, 10:31:17 pm »

I have no idea how much we are offering OBJ but the guesses by media members are around 7-8 million a year. If that's the case then I have no issue with it. If it's the 18 million given to him by Baltimore then I'd balk.

https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-to-sign-wr-odell-beckham-jr-to-one-year-deal-worth-up-to-8-25-million

The reports are coming out that we have signed OBJ to a one year deal - I read somewhere it's a base of $3 million which bloats up to over $8 million with incentives.

Which is fine on it's own accord... except we are now fully capped out until X is released June 1st with a whole lot of missing pieces to address. When that $18 million does become available, we're gonna need some or all of it for the Tua contract negotiation (or the franchise tag). Plus we just spent two (admittedly lower) draft picks on WR.
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« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2024, 10:55:23 pm »

https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-to-sign-wr-odell-beckham-jr-to-one-year-deal-worth-up-to-8-25-million

The reports are coming out that we have signed OBJ to a one year deal - I read somewhere it's a base of $3 million which bloats up to over $8 million with incentives.

Which is fine on it's own accord... except we are now fully capped out until X is released June 1st with a whole lot of missing pieces to address. When that $18 million does become available, we're gonna need some or all of it for the Tua contract negotiation (or the franchise tag). Plus we just spent two (admittedly lower) draft picks on WR.

It’s a steal 3m is nothing and if he hits 8m then it means he performed extraordinary well.

We have some problems I’m worried about the line on both sides but if the OL can at least do as good as last year I think we are gonna be better on offense.
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« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2024, 12:05:49 pm »

I just don't understand the rationale with signing OBJ, who will be the #3 receiver; no matter what the price is.  Miami drafted a receiver and re-signed a couple guys (Berrios and Cracraft, etc) to fill the third spot.  So why sign OBJ who can be a bit of a prima donna.  Where are his targets going to come from?  And whether you blame Tua or the O-line, Tua barely gets past the primary receiver in his read progression so he's not gonna have time to find OBJ.  For the 4 or 5 significant catches he may have per year it's a waste of money, especially if other receivers could make those catches.  I really wish they put as much emphasis on the defensive backfield.  IMO it's a waste of money and roster spot.

The only thing that makes sense is if they plan on trading Waddle for some future draft capital.
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« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2024, 07:39:26 am »

I just don't understand the rationale with signing OBJ, who will be the #3 receiver; no matter what the price is.  Miami drafted a receiver and re-signed a couple guys (Berrios and Cracraft, etc) to fill the third spot.  So why sign OBJ who can be a bit of a prima donna.  Where are his targets going to come from?  And whether you blame Tua or the O-line, Tua barely gets past the primary receiver in his read progression so he's not gonna have time to find OBJ.  For the 4 or 5 significant catches he may have per year it's a waste of money, especially if other receivers could make those catches.  I really wish they put as much emphasis on the defensive backfield.  IMO it's a waste of money and roster spot.

The only thing that makes sense is if they plan on trading Waddle for some future draft capital.
OBJ is also insurance for if, or when, Waddle or Hill are hurt. He can easily step into the #2 or even #1 role of need be for a game or two. No one else can do that. 
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« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2024, 12:08:12 pm »

OBJ is also insurance for if, or when, Waddle or Hill are hurt. He can easily step into the #2 or even #1 role of need be for a game or two. No one else can do that. 

Well that's an expensive insurance policy for guys that typically don't miss a lot of games because of injury, I mean if it was a back up for Armstead I could understand.  In the meantime he'll be creating friction in the locker room because that's what he does.
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« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2024, 03:02:46 pm »

I don't remember OBJ creating friction in LA or BAL.
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