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NFL Network reports the Dolphins are expected to sign former Patriot Danny Amendola.

Danny Amendola is staying in the AFC East... expected to sign with Miami Dolphins per source.Via Dan Hellie
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More old dudes... >:(

Don't be so negative.  Last year the Dolphins signed old dudes with Timmons and Thomas and look how great that turned out.   ;)

This makes no sense.

And now I'm confused again. Hope he's coming on the cheap. Really cheap.

The ESPN article says, "Amendola has established himself as a clutch playoff receiver."   How exactly is that going to benefit the Dolphins who may never make another playoff in my lifetime? 

2 years .. 12 mil

That seems about right. I have a better feeling about Amendola contributing then I do Wilson.

I guess we can still tank with an old WR not making a ton. Certainly not being competitive with one.

This is one of, if not the best things we have done IMHO. He's a tough, no nonsense guy, who brings leadership to the lost. I started liking him when he ran out and held the flag at a time when others were kneeling. Add in Wilson and I think we upgraded at the position for less money. 

(https://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/danny-amendola2.jpg)

That picture does not surprise me in the least.  The Patriots are a team that embodies everything the "stick to sports" crowd loves: from star players taking less money for the privilege of competing, to NE's penchant for stoically discarding longtime players the moment they believe they have maximally consumed their ability, to their gritty and hard-working complexion image.

And even on that team, Amendola managed to distinguish himself as One Of The Good Ones who will not brook any of this rabble-rousing by spoiled, entitled millionaires who don't appreciate how lucky they are to even be allowed in this country.

He is who I thought he was.

I hear we're trading in our helmets next year for white pointy hoods.

Yes, because there is nothing more racist than respecting the flag.  Jesus Fucking Christ.

And who did you think he was?

This is who I thought he was which means Spider probably thinks the exact opposite. Not sure how he can spin these qualities into a negative but I bet he can ... hahaha

Speaking on a conference call Monday, offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels had the highest of praise for the receiver.

“He’s one of the all-time great teammates, no question about it,” McDaniels said. “However big or small you tell him his role is going to be on a week-to-week basis, he embraces that. He prepares really hard. He cares about doing it right. He’s always ready to go, however much you need him or are going to use him, and he’s as competitive as anybody else we have. He plays hard on every single snap and will do anything for the team to help us win. I don’t know that I could give a greater compliment to a player than that. And he always plays big in the big games.”

McDaniels added: “He’s a guy that you trust, that you want in the game, that you can count on, and you know you’re always going to get his best effort. Like a lot of our guys, he can take himself to another level and try to do a little bit more than maybe what he’s done in the past, and he does a great job of preparing hard to be able to do that. It’s a testament to him how much he cares about his teammates and our team in general. I love having the guy. It’s a privilege to coach people like him.”

Amendola is the poster child for mediocre receivers failing upward.  He couldn't hold Wes Welker's jock strap.

But yeah, let's celebrate the signing of this year's Wayne Chrebet, all because he's the type of guy to make sure that noisy players who are speaking out of turn know their place, shut up and play football.  I'm sure there are still plenty of roster spots for quite a few more mediocre players with high character who can't make a play, but can damned sure make sure everyone sees them grabbing on to a field-sized flag.

And let's be absolutely clear about what I'm saying, here:  in no way do I fault or criticize players who choose not to participate in protests.  Every man should make his own choice as to what his beliefs are.  But I will criticize showboaters like Amendola, who find it insufficient to simply stand at attention for the anthem as he was before.  No, he needed to go out of his way to show everyone how much he disagrees with people who protest by running out on to the field and grabbing the flag for the cameras.

However, I could be mistaken.  If that picture was taken prior to August 2016, I will happily admit I was wrong and speedily retract all of my unfair criticism of Amendola, who is an honest patriot that loves the flag*.  But if that picture was taken after the protests started, Amendola seems like the worst type of fake patriot... the kind that believes anyone who feels wronged by our government needs to shut up and clap louder.

*note: I will also accept any prior statement by Amendola criticizing those who fly the Confederate flag instead of the Stars & Stripes, which would signify that he really does care about the flag that much.

I also wanted to get this on the record.  If you take anything away from my posts in this thread, let it be this:

Danny Amendola is not a good player.  Losing a back-to-back-to-back Pro Bowl slot receiver and replacing him with this mediocre journeyman is an incredible blow to the prospects of the Miami Dolphins having a successful season.  And I'm not much interested in this BS spin about how great of a guy he is.

But what about his family?  ;-)

Is Ted Ginn back?!?!?

You lost a guy who got the ball too much to two guys. One of them is a proven clutch, team player and the other an up and coming player who will add additional speed to an already quick group in Stills and Grant. And you did all this for much cheaper than you would have to spend to keep just the one player.

In reality Landry wouldn't be getting all those catches moving forward as they want to spread the ball. Without 100 plus catches what exactly does Landry bring to the table that makes him a Pro bowler? I really liked Landry until he got crazy for money. In a nutshell he is a solid player but only a pro bowler because we sucked.

Well in all fairness, he can spin the ball on the turf and do his little robot finger point whenever he gets a first down for 3 yards. That dude is a clown and I'm glad he's gone...

I think bad mouthing Landry is how some of you deal with losing a good player.  Realistically, it was all about money.  He wasn't worth what he wanted and left.  Simple as that.

I wasn't bad mouthing him so if you're referring to me you are wrong. Landry has always had critics prior to him being traded as there are a lot of people who weren't a fan of his attitude. It's not how I would play it but I didn't have issue with it. I was brought up in the day of "act like you've been here before" era. As the Washington Post put it ... "It is hard to imagine Lombardi not fuming at the sight of a mediocre defensive lineman dancing with self-celebratory delight after making a routine tackle in the second quarter with the team trailing by 14 points." For many people that describes Landry.

I wasn't specifically referring to you, but I'll address your comment.  I get the whole, "act like you've been there before" thing.  Barry Sanders was the epitome of that.  Having said that, it's a loose foundation of an argument on why anyone would want a player like Landry off their team, especially when he didn't cause as many penalties being a showboat as people think.

"I don't like that guy dancing around all the time" just isn't a good enough argument for me when it's typically not detrimental to the team.  Which leads me back to my other point:  It was about money plain and simple.  Everything else is just noise.

Isn't all of this getting quite close to you are allowed to demonstrate your feelings on an issue as long as it's the feeling that I agree with. Why shouldn't Amendola be able to express how he feels about the demonstrators by showing his support for the flag?

I agree 100%. I was just explaining why some people didn't care for him and are happy he is gone. I'm guessing they make up the minority of people. 

Isn't that the way of the world today? Agree with me or you are an evil SOB! There is no longer an in between for most people.

I agree with Spider about Amendola,I don't think he's good player as much as he played with Tom Brady,and the Patriots,and tended to come up big in the playoffs....If we actually think this shit hole team is making a run in the playoffs/coming off a playoff season...it might be a different story.A "name" guy for the offense,and I think it's more of a referendum of how shitty our current Wr's are specifically L.Caroo,Grant and the no names,undrafted guys...


How soon we forget.Landry blocked his ass off,fought for every inch (at times to his detriment,and he'd fumble),He'd take that off target pass (most Wr's dropped) catch it with one hand,and still manage to make some yardage out of it.He showed up every game...All those things are respected by the defensive players we play against,and noticed by other coaches...All who help vote for the pro bowl...

(I personally don't think Pro bowls mean much)

Stop,Landry is Gone,we fucked that horse,it's dead and it's time to stop kicking it.

So you are saying he was a difference maker? I think he was solid player but far from being an actual difference maker. I mean ... we won 6 games with our 25th ranked offense with him having over 100 catches and an unlimited number of blocks. It doesn't seem like we have much farther to fall. I, as well as pretty much everyone, feels he is nowhere near a Julio Jones or Antonio Bryant. They are difference makers.

For the record I think Suh is a great player but in the whole scheme of things with the money he makes ... he isn't much a difference maker either. Wake in his prime and Jason Taylor were our last difference makers. We are starving for the next one IMO.

^^^ An who was our QB's,and O-lineman blocking those QB's to get Landry those balls,versus those players you're comparing Landry too?.Different Teams,Different schemes,Different players on those teams.He was OUR Hines Ward,with an Attitude....Like him, Love him/ hate him you had to stop him...

If he's not a difference maker who did Defensive Coordinators have to to stop on our shitty offense? I seemed to hear constantly,you have to limit Jarvis Landry.

Now can we stop rehashing this B.S. with Landry?

Modified to add...I just think it's hilarious,1st it's Landry attitude,then nitpick/discount his production (while making next to nothing),then compare him to guy's who already got paid,for not wanting to pay landry  ??? I wholeheartedly admit, I'm one the 1st people to complain that player A isn't worth what we're paying a guy...

Funny how Amendola's "clutchness" coincides precisely with the time Tom Brady was throwing a football at him.  He is almost as "clutch" as Deion Branch!


This is an unfair and bad question.  Besides sacks, what does Wake bring to the table that made him a Pro Bowler?

Landry was a Pro Bowler in 2016 when MIA made the playoffs, and he was a big reason they did so, especially after Tanny went down.

It's ironic that you say JT and Wake in their primes were the only difference makers, as during their most dominant years (respectively) MIA was nowhere NEAR the playoffs.  At all.

JT and Wake made a difference ... by themselves. If you don't think we had a Super bowl worthy defense in Taylor's prime you are on drugs.  They changed games. Taylor makes plays when the team needs it most. Landry had over 100 catches so he got the ball more than anyone else and yet he didn't change the game. So if we take half those throws away from him ... which is how an offense is suppose to work... then I don't see him as anything other than a good, solid player. Not sure what he's done to make you think he's done more.

It's amazing to me that people can knock a player for being a league leader in receptions, leading the team in TD's, and leading the team in receiving first downs.  If you want to knock someone, knock the QB, O-line, TE's, and other WR's, but don't knock the guy that played his heart out for the team.  If you want to say the guy isn't worth the $14M he wanted that's fine, I don't think anyone will argue he's not worth that much money.

Compared to Amendola, Landry is ten times better.

JT played on a defense that had 6 Pro Bowlers and 3 All-Pros, FAR better than any offense Landry ever played with... and that team did not even make the playoffs.  You cannot even begin to compare quality of teammates between the two.

And if we're going to judge players based on team results, your complete lack of any mention of Wake is deafening with its silence.

My 2c here...

It's not really fair to compare Amendola to Landry in the context of things. Yes, he is part of a wide receiver package the powers that be have got to replace Landry, but it's not exactly a like for like replacement.

Like I mentioned in a previous post, one thing that has been identified as lacking in the Dolphins is leadership (which others here on the forum and in the media seem to have identified long before the Dolphins administration seemed to realize it's an issue, and that's after the whole Incognito train-wreck).

The team is being blown up and rebooted. Under those circumstances, I have no issue with this signing, Danny's a productive WR with leadership intangibles which Landry doesn't have (and probably will never will) that frankly we will need if we are starting from scratch again. Hopefully with the return of Tannehill and the addition of Sitton & Kilgore there's the leadership on the offensive side of the ball that's been sadly lacking during the 2017 season. With some luck that will maybe rub off on to Laremy Tunsil and other future long term elements of the Dolphins.

If we are to get better, this is one step up... if it doesn't work though, yeah I admit it is a big step backwards. That said, if that scenario does eventuate we are going a mile backwards because of far more serious factors other than the signing of Amendola.

I know that is the team response but I disagree wholeheartedly. Pouncey was a team leader and Jarvis Landry continually pumped up the team so at a minimum he led by example. They were moved for other reasons IMO.

Pouncey was not the type of leader the team needs. He is a straight up follower of Incognito and Hernandez. If the stories are to be believed about Landry, he was no leader either.

^I agree with that about Pouncy. Again with his injury history,plus...

Outside of being the center,who makes the line shift/blitz calls,there were almost always older veteran bodge/patch players brought in (for more leadership
?) during Pouncey's tenure with the Dolphins.

As depressing as this is...
2011 - 22 yrs old - (Mike P. played 16 games)- Vernon Carey,Jake Long,Incognito,M.Columbo
2012 - 23 yrs old - (Mike played 16 gms) - J.Long, and Incognito (John Jerry was older  than him)
2013 - 24 yrs old - (Mike Played 14 gms) -B.Mckinnie,Incognito,T.Clabo (John Jerry was older than him)
2014 - 25 yrs old - (Mike played 12gms At guard) - Satele,Alberts,D.Colledge
2015 - 26 yrs old - (Mike played 14 gms)- Alberts,J.Fox
2016 - 27 yrs old - (Mike played 5 gms) - Alberts,Bushrod
2017 - 28 yrs old  - (Mike played 16 gms) - Larson and Bushrod

Just seem like there was always other older guy's around on the line...Mike will be 29 this July...

I agree, I don't think Pouncey was much of a leader.  Jake Long & Brandon Albert have been the main leaders of the O-line (when they were on the field).  Perhaps Tunsil can become the O-line leader as he gets beyond being a rookie.

I don't see when Amendola was supposedly a "leader" in NE's locker room.  Brady, Gronk, and Edelman would all need to be out of commission for Amendola to be considered a leader among offensive skill position players, to say nothing of the rest of the team.

What's next... is MIA going to try to poach Dion Lewis or Mike Gillislee and call them "leaders"?  These excuses are weak, man.  MIA is taking NE's discarded crumbs and treating them like prime rib.  I'd be more excited about signing Chris Hogan.

Last year the team was 6-10.  This year the team will probably have a similar record.  But they will have the same record with players who are "leaders" and "high character guys".  I'm sure that leaders and high character guys make for a more pleasant workplace, but for me personally, I will take a 12-4 team full of selfish douchebags over a 6-10 team full of guys who help little old ladies across the street any day. 

I think they can do better this year than last and they make the playoffs:

Pros
--Solidified Oline with veterans and capable backups
--Starting QB will be back (and now has a solid Oline to block for him)
--Young talented CBs developed more / Lippett will be back
--Full offseason of Drake as feature back
--Freed up cap room
--TE upgrade (addition by subtraction, Thomas is terrible)

Cons
--Suh is gone, weakening the Dline
--Wake is another year older
--Landry is gone, weakening the WR core

I'm going to call it now, Miami will have a top 5 secondary this season.  Maybe even top 3.

But the Dolphins were not a 12-4 team. I'd rather sleep with super models but wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills.

I agree Amenddola wasn't a leader in NE, however, someone coming from NE (or Philly) has the potential to be a leader on every team.  "This is what we did and the level of effort and dedication needed to be a champion".  And who can really argue?

I think I saw that video...

Pretty sure it was the premise to Aladdin.

Somebody get Super Bowl Champion Brock Osweiler's agent on the line, stat!

Two Girls One Hand?

Could do worse when shopping for a backup QB.

If you are a company looking to improve your culture of consumer service, with all else being equal would you rather fire an ex-Disney employee or ex-DMV?

I don't know how many backup QBs had their team give up a second round pick just to be rid of them... only to be cut by the next team, who went on to finish 0-16.
That's a pretty low bar.

But all else isn't equal.  The groundskeeper at Disneyland does not necessarily know more about great customer service than a manager at DMV.

Disagree.  The groundskeeper at Disney has a very high set of standards for even occasional and inconsequential interactions with guests.  The manager at the DMV is part of a culture of no regard for customer service.

Having had interactions (albeit limited) with both Disney landscapers and DMV supervisors, I'm with you.  I think pretty much every Disney employee has to go to Disney customer service school and DMV employees get put on probation if they smile. 

Thanks a lot.  >:D

Hard to say what they are doing. They signed him but he could easily be cut or traded if they signed another.  They act like they are all in for Mayfield ... which almost guarantees they are not ... but they could take someone else and then drop Brock.

Consider it done.