People are protesting laws that make students safer

[dolphins4life]

TN has passed laws that will arm its teachers.

The amazing thing, people are protesting this.

This is mind-boggling.

Florida proved that cops are not legally obligated to protect students. (Scott Peterson was acquitted)

Uvalde proved that cops will not protect students

So, teachers in TN can now protect themselves and their students.

This is wonderful

Do they just feel the need to protest simply for their own enjoyment?

Hoodie's response is faulty for several reasons

1) How many shooters will be DETERRED from entering the school knowing that armed people will be ready to respond immediately?

2) The teacher would not have a millisecond.  If a teacher hears gunshots, he can lock the classroom down and prepare for the shooter to come to his room.  This is the fight part of run hide and fight

3) ultimately, what you liberals will not respond to is WHAT ELSE?  You can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals with laws.  News flash:  Criminals don't follow laws.  The cops will not protect us, nor are they obligated to.  It's up to us to protect ourselves.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Willing to bet that in ten years the number of children killed by accidents from teachers having guns in school far exceeds the number of school shooting successfully ended by an armed teacher.  There have already been incidents where guns have been misplaced in schools only a matter of time that one day a student thinks it is a toy gun and kills someone. 

Arming a teacher without having have the training to respond is useless.  And this requires a training protocol significantly greater than a police squat team.  The police need to travel to the school so they are prepared.  The teacher has less than a millisecond to recognize that it is an active shooter, draw their weapon, aim and fire.  A level of expertise not all Navy Seals poses.

Too many guns is the problem, more guns is not the solution.

[Fau Teixeira]

more guns =/= less shooting

that's an insane premise. and it's been proven around the world

less guns = less shootings.

[CF DolFan]

more guns =/= less shooting

that's an insane premise. and it's been proven around the world

less guns = less shootings.

We had guns in school in the 80s but no one was killed. Many trucks had both a shotgun and a rifle in the back window. In fact anyone could have stolen them and started shooting away as they were typically loaded. Now guns are outlawed at schools as well as many other gun laws and yet shootings are not uncommon. Just like deaths by drunk drivers ... it isn't access to the car that is at fault but the driver. It isn't the amount of guns but it is the morality of the people who have them.

[Spider-Dan]

We did not have anywhere near the number of guns in the '80s as we do today, due in large part to pro-gun-control politicians like Ronald Reagan.

More guns = more shootings.  Go look up the number of shootings in Canada, Japan, Australia, England, or Germany.

[CF DolFan]

We did not have anywhere near the number of guns in the '80s as we do today, due in large part to pro-gun-control politicians like Ronald Reagan.

More guns = more shootings.  Go look up the number of shootings in Canada, Japan, Australia, England, or Germany.

True but guns were much easier to access in the 80s. Like I said ... they were in the windows of many trucks.

Please help me to understand how we can eliminate guns with laws but we haven't put a dent in drugs? That is such a silly theory to me. I mean sure the honest people aren't buying drugs but anyone who wants them has access. It seems to me that a certain section of society is content to leave out common sense to fulfill a fantasy.

[Spider-Dan]

Please help me to understand how we can eliminate guns with laws but we haven't put a dent in drugs?

Because guns aren't drugs.  It's like asking, "How can we eliminate guns when people break the speed limit every day?"  Many people want to get high (or drive fast) who don't want to take another person's life.  And guns being available to steal from some nearby truck is not comparable to hundreds of millions of guns purchased legally.

Again, we don't need to ask hypothetical questions about "How can banning guns possibly work when criminals break the law?" because literally every other industrialized country has already proven that it works.  The US is the only developed country in the world with this problem.

[CF DolFan]

Because guns aren't drugs.  It's like asking, "How can we eliminate guns when people break the speed limit every day?"  

LOL .. that's actually a perfectly logical comparison as we don't take cars away from the public in order to enforce the law. We don't remove all cars because drunk drivers kill people. Hell ... even sober drivers kill people so that's two reasons to remove cars. The removals are limitless!

[Spider-Dan]

The US is not the only industrialized country with regular car accidents, yet it is the only one with regular mass shootings.
You can't rationalize that away.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

LOL .. that's actually a perfectly logical comparison as we don't take cars away from the public in order to enforce the law. We don't remove all cars because drunk drivers kill people. Hell ... even sober drivers kill people so that's two reasons to remove cars. The removals are limitless!

We regulate cars.

I don’t want to remove all guns.  But like cars all guns should be registered and all operators licensed and owners must carry insurance to compensate those who are harmed from negligent use. 

Cars are the perfect analogy, thank you for bringing them up.

[CF DolFan]

We regulate cars.

I don’t want to remove all guns.  But like cars all guns should be registered and all operators licensed and owners must carry insurance to compensate those who are harmed from negligent use. 

Cars are the perfect analogy, thank you for bringing them up.

I'm curious as I can't find it. Where in the Constitution does it grant us the right to drive on public roads in order to protect ourselves from government overreach?  This information would be beneficial to a lot of Sovereign Citizens who are arrested each year.

[Spider-Dan]

If your argument is that the Constitution requires Americans to live in a dystopian hellscape where elementary schools and movie theaters are pop-up shooting galleries, then make that argument.  But don't try to insist that "more guns make us safer" or "banning guns won't reduce shootings," because both of those claims are clearly untrue.

[Spider-Dan]

One more thing:

It isn't the amount of guns but it is the morality of the people who have them.

So the argument here must be that America is, BY FAR, the most morally bankrupt nation on the planet.  After all, they don't regularly have these kinds of shootings in China, Cuba, or North Korea, and "it isn't the amount of guns" in the US that leads to more shootings.