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None of the above, I believe he will hold out all year or retire.

The best they could probably get for him would be a third rounder, IMO.  If they don't trade him, I don't see him playing for the Dolphins because there is too much bad blood now.

Voted third rounder or less, given that he's 34 and may only want to play one more year.  Some team that's close will make an offer come training camp, because he's just too good and there're only like 5 elite pass rushers in the league of any age, but it'll take a while.

Modified the poll to reflect this option.

I voted retire. No way taylor ever plays for the dolphins again. He's obviously positioning himself for life after football. Even if he bombs out in hollywood one of these major networks will hire him as analyst.

I put retire as well.  Nobody's gonna give up a 2nd or 1st rounder for a guy who will play two more years at most, and it seems the Dolphins won't take anything less. 

Fuck him. He went from one of my Fav players to a turd.  Hes played over a decade here. He could end up in the HOF and retire a Miami Dolphin. He signed a contract and wants to back out so he can go somewhere else and get all the Glory.  I think the Tuna is playing this perfect. Force him to retire. Just like he forced Jake Long to settle for less $$ in the draft.  Would you want to face Jason Taylor at all knowing all we got as a 3rd or 4th rounder?  By taking him out not only assures that we will get at least a first rounder.........we assure other teams won't get him as well. Kind of like Causing a missed field goal. Its 3 points we don't have to score now to catch up.

  This is Jason Taylor's future.

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I voted third rounder or conditional... I don't see Ireland letting a potential 3rd rd pick in next year's draft retire without any compensation. As the moment for Jason's "retirement decision" gets closer, Miami's price will drop to where it needs to be to get a deal done.

LMFAO!!!!  I just spit Budweiser all over my monitor!!!!!!

I think someone will bite on a 2nd or 3rd for a player of JT's caliber even if its only for 2 years before the season starts

I said that I think he will play.  I don't know if I really believe that, but I do think that a lot can happen before the season starts.  Things may patch up.

I wonder if Parcells really wants him.  If he retires, he doesn't have to pay him, so maybe that's something to do with it.

Defense, I don't get you.  The guy labored here for 11 years with moslty no help, and he's a turd for saying enough's enough?

People leave jobs with contracts all the time.  If you remove the emotion from the argument, there's nothing wrong with wanting to go out on top; it's what we all want in life.  Taylor was part of 1 rebuilding / franchise turnaround 10 years ago.  Then management screwed him and screwed the team all up.  I can't fault him for wanting to end it on a winner instead of helping to set up success he'll never get to taste himself.

Budweiser for breakfast? Someone has a little bit of a problem....

Welcome to the attitude of the selfish fan. The man has every right to pursue other intrest if he has zero intention of playing football or if 16 million dollars isn't worth the constant losing.

Taylor has to look out for himself and his family, because once he's gone the dolphins are still going to be around. People need to stop taking this so personally. It's a buisness if the dolphins decide not to trade him, but he's being selfish if he decides to retire.

Suddenly I find myself agreeing with gocowboys31.  :o

Welcome to the darkside. ;D

Beer is for breakfast.  You drink or be gone.

~Cocktail

No kidding, bud is not a breakfast beer.  Miller or Coors are breakfast beers. 

Bullshit. 7.5 Million can't take care of his family!!?  This whole thing is about Taylor and nobody else. I was all for him going on DWTS and getting some deserved R&R. But now he's acting like a Primadonna Jerkoff. He thought he was above it all and The Tuna is just letting him know who's boss. I really feel sorry for the guy....... ::) he signed the Contract now own up to it. Its that simple. He is a PAID employee and nothing else. The tuna will do whats best for the team becuase thats not Jason Taylors concern any longer.

Aren't you the one that said Taylor was a Loser just a few weeks ago?  Your just pissed you don't Have Taylor to book end with Zack Thomas. Go find another bandwagon to jump on.

Funny how "owning up to the contract that was signed" didn't apply when Zach Thomas was cut.

Some consistency, please.

"Jason Taylor is headed back to South Florida after three months away from home. But the six-time Pro Bowl defensive end doesn't sound like he's in any rush to settle his stalemate with the Dolphins".

Looks like he's going to retire



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 ::)  Yep he's gay!

What?  He's been seen with Tom Brady?  ???

Hey I've said Many times here that that was not right.  Zach Thomas should still be on the team.   But Getting cut is part of the contract.......they didn't have to sign it and take the bonus if they didn't like it.

Look at my Name. No One Loves those 2 players more then me. But we were all begging for an admin that would take no shit and build us another championship Team. The last 10 years were full of wishy washy Nice Guys (except for Saban......he was just an Ahole) . I think the Hardline stance is refreshing and it sets a precedent to the entire league that The Dolphins are not a joke anymore.

Both signed contracts Both need to live up to them. Whats not consistent? Because Taylor fits into Parcells plans and Thomas doesn't? That's the employers decision to make not the employee.

"A grasshopper walks into a bar.  Bartender says, 'we have a drink named after you.'  The grasshopper responds, 'you have a drink called Murry'"  is a joke.

The Dolphins are a football team that loses a lot of games.  -- RECENTLY

366 349 9 (1960–2007, includes only regular season)

362 242 4 (1966–2007, includes only regular season)

Guess which record belongs to the Patriots and which one belongs to the Dolphins.

Easy guess.  The Dolphins didn't exist in 1960.

Nor did the New England Patriots. 

No personal attacks please.

1 a: something said or done to provoke laughter; especially : a brief oral narrative with a climactic humorous twist b (1): the humorous or ridiculous element in something (2): an instance of jesting : kidding <can't take a joke> c: practical joke d: laughingstock
2: something not to be taken seriously : a trifling matter <consider his skiing a joke — Harold Callender> —often used in negative constructions <it is no joke to be lost in the desert>


Not an attack but a correction.......

I don't get it.  I am saying the Dolphins are NOT a joke, and I am being attacked.  Okay, I give up, the Dolphins are a joke!  Are you happy now?

I win!  :D

You can't even get a compliment straight!  :D Why the bad Grasshopper Joke then? 

I agree ......the Dolphins were no laughing matter last season.  :|

And lets all get back on topic-
Jason Taylor's future.....

My hopes are that Jayson Tylors future is sacking QB's for the Miami Dolphins, I have been saddened by his recent acts, but I still respect him and want him on the team.

I am saddened by the comments of Parcells and Sparano, insinuating that they don't want Jason Taylor on the team, but not trading him, either.  Jason could be pulling a Chad Johnson right now, but he is keeping quiet.

That statement could be taken two ways.  I too hope Jason future job involves sacking QB for the Miami Dolphins.  Two games a year him sacking the QB who plays for the Dolphins...... >:D

Exactly. That is why you and Cowgirl wish the Tuna would have gave him away for a 3rd or 4th rounder. Won't happen. If we have to face the guy its gonna be worth it to us. If not its a safer bet seeing him ride a couch somewhere else then taking the gamble on a 3-4th round hit.

Although I would love for the Pats to get him for a late round draft pick, I have never said that would be a wise move for the team.  If he is not going to play for the Dolphins BP ought get something for him with a trade to a non-AFCE team -- Dallas, Giants, Chargers.  Miami won't  face Dallas or the Giant for three years, and with the Chargers most likely once in three years. 

If you own a $1,000,000 home and people offered you  $1000 for it do you take it since theres no better offers ? I would keep it.
Jayson Tylor is worth more then a 3rd or 4th rounder, if you don't want to offer anything to equal his value it is better to just hold onto his contract.

But what if you're locked out of that home indefinetely.  And the roof is beginning to cave in. 

Better analogy

You have two tickets to a game you can't attend. The face value on the tickets are $100.  Best offer you get is $60.  Do you take it?

Here's the thing with trades- a players PERCEIVED value may be one thing, but a player is only worth what people are willing to offer in trade.

The problem is this:

Draft picks represent future return - production for 6, 7, 8 years to come.

Jason Taylor, while skills and talent FAR surpass that of random 3rd round pick, does not have future value.

Therefore, he only has value to someone who's looking to challenge for a title in the next 1-2 years, which includes New England, Indy, Dallas, maybe the Chargers, Jacksonville, and that's about it.

Its like having a baseball card that "worth" $100, but it ain't worth shit unless you get someone to give you $100 for it.

You guys are not seeing the big picture. You saying BP is not getting any Value by playing hardball.  What he is getting money can't buy.  Discipline. Respect and a MINDSET. Something the Dolphins have not had any of since Jimmy Johnson left the Team. Jason Taylor does not run this Football team. No Player is above any other. This is a TEAM and BP and Tony Sprano are the field Generals. Its that simple. Its a recipe for championships that has followed BP very nicely. 1 1st rounder or retire. Its good to see someone finally in control again............... ;D

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/miamidolphins/entries/2008/05/30/report_bucs_saints_eagles_cowb.html

Report: Bucs, Saints, Eagles, Cowboys interested in Taylor

By Tim Graham | Friday, May 30, 2008, 09:56 PM

NFL Network insider Adam Schefter today named several teams that are interested in acquiring disenfranchised Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor.

Schefter reported the Buccaneers, Saints, Eagles and Chargers are interested and added the Cowboys at least have held internal discussions about adding Taylor to their already formidable defense.

Click here for Schefter’s video report, which also includes additional analysis from studio guest La’Roi Glover.

As Schefter points out, what makes the Cowboys an intriguing possibility is that they own an extra third-round draft choice obtained from the Browns and an extra fourth-round pick obtained from the Lions.

Send his Dancing ass to San Diego.   Miami will take Merriman  :D ;D :D ;D


Still Love ya JT.   Ya dancing panzy  ;D

I have always wondered why people haven't talked more about a trade of Taylor to the Eagles for Shepard.  Seems like a good trade for both parties to me.  Any thoughts?

I was talking to some one ( I think it was Brian) about this back on draft day as a possible scenario. In fact, when the NFL Network started to scroll across the bottom that the Fins made a trade with the Eagles, I was expecting to see this trade. Instead it was Lorenzo Booker for a pick.

I think it makes sense as far as both players fitting the needs of the other teams, but I'm not sure the Eagles would want to take on JT's salary.

Miami might like it, and the Eagles might like it (if JT was to play for them) but JT might tell the Eagles I am not showing up to camp their either.  JT doesn't hate the Dolphins.  Its not a anywhere but here trade demand.  JT want to play football in February.  Chargers give him that chance, Patriots give him that chance, Giants give him that chance, Cowboys give him that chance.  Nobody has the Eagles pegged to win the NFC East.  It is Cowboys vs. Giants with the Redskins as the dark horse.  Why go from being in 4th place of the AFC East to 4th place of the NFC East?

To be honest, I see it being tight between the Eagles and Cowboys this year.  But I can understand the point of the division being so competitive.  I think you are under-rating the Eagles. 

We know he isn't getting traded to the Patriots and I don't think the Cowboys or the Chargers can afford him.  The Giants might be up for it once things move along and Strahan makes a decision but who knows how long it will take for all of that to settle.

In my opinion, if Taylor really wants to be traded to a contender he should do it in Chris Chambers like fashion.

That is where I think if Taylor really wants a ring he needs to be more like Moss.  Moss took a pay cut to come to the Pats, if he hadn't the deal would never have gone thru.

If Taylor is willing to take a pay cut he becomes much more desirable.

I think you are underestimating the Superbowl champs. 

If any team is only one or 2 players away from magic it might be The Cowboys. They can afford to blow a 1st rounder for a 1 or 2 year player becuase thay are that close. They should be calling any day now............I can feel it.

Well maybe not a first rounder but perhaps a third rounder and a conditional pick.

Likewise, the ability to holdout is part of the contract.  He can hold out, without pay, for all of training camp, all of preseason, and up to 10 games, and still get credit for completing a year of service.

If MIA didn't like that deal, they shouldn't have signed the contract, right?

How can you mention Saban and, in the same breath, call a hardline stance "refreshing"?  Saban was running things here less than 18 months ago.

LMFAO!!!!!! Get off the pipe. No team can afford to blow draft picks. By the way were aren't a jason taylor away we already have his clone in Demarcus Ware. The cowboys are a pacman jones and a mike jenkins away. We need cover corners to replace those two scrubs named Nate jones and Jacque Reeves.

Ohh yeah werent we supposed to give you guys our next 30 first round picks and Marion Barber, T.O  and Tony Romo for Darren Mcfadden. How did that trade work out. Lol.......He's going to retire deal with it and your going to get nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who says Miami doesn't like it? They seem ready , willing , and able to force him to retire. I think the message it sends is more valuable to the team at this point then Jayson Taylor. Zack was still willing to play here. We shouldn't have cut him.








If you look at the sentence I "EXCEPT Saban".  Meaning he definitely had a hardline stance , but he didn't know what he was doing. Just having the attitude isn't enough. You need to know what to do with it besides making big Cry baby rookies cry on the field.  Parcells knows exactly how to play the games and what to do . You watch and see . Parcells will get his asking price.  ;)

 

How many Teams miss on 1st round Draft picks!?  How much do 1st rounders Co$t to sign? Are any of them  guaranteed to step in and give you an instant Pass Rusher like Jason Taylor?   If you guys pass on Taylor I can't wait to see what you get as a 1st rounder next year and compare the stats to Jason......... :D