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Title: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Dave Gray on July 03, 2008, 12:55:11 am
Who do you think is the best movie villain of all time?


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Thundergod on July 03, 2008, 02:59:16 am
Top of my head:

John Doe, Kevin Spacey in Seven.

I know there are more but that movie disturbed/pissed me off so much that I only saw it once. Great ending.


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Dave Gray on July 03, 2008, 03:25:41 am
Good answer.

I think that mine is Hannibal Lecter from Silence of the Lambs.  He was a very likable creepy.



I also think that considering how bad the movie was, that Darth Maul was a pretty bad-ass villain.  ...not a lot of talking, but a lot of ass-kicking and a lot of personality for no dialogue, through only expression and fight choreography.


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Buddhagirl on July 03, 2008, 08:08:09 am
Top of my head:

John Doe, Kevin Spacey in Seven.


That was the first that popped in my head too. That movie messed with my head. It's definitely one of my favorites.


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Phishfan on July 03, 2008, 08:20:06 am
Patrick Bateman (Christian Bale)- American Psycho


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on July 03, 2008, 09:03:13 am
I also think that considering how bad the movie was, that Darth Maul was a pretty bad-ass villain.  ...not a lot of talking, but a lot of ass-kicking and a lot of personality for no dialogue, through only expression and fight choreography.

I loved Darth Maul, but for being so bad-ass, they got rid of him pretty quickly.


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on July 03, 2008, 09:11:01 am
I'd have to give it to Biff from the Back to the Future trilogy.

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Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: BoSoxGrl on July 03, 2008, 09:59:03 am
Buffalo Bill (OR bob...I can't remember his name right this second) from Silence of the Lambs used to give me nightmares.

Honorable Mention:  Paris Hilton.  She's creepy as fuck.


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: TonyB0D on July 03, 2008, 10:00:52 am
nicholson....whatever he's playing he's "creepy as fuck" to quote bosoxgirl.  he was great int he shining and in batman


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Sunstroke on July 03, 2008, 10:33:53 am

I have to go with Dave here...Hannibal Lecter is the best villain in recent movie memory. Freakishly intelligent cold and calculating psychos scare me much more than the raging angry variety. Spacey in Seven and Bale in American Psycho are both good ones as well.

Side thought...since the three movies I mention are all on my "watched it at least a hundred times" list, I wonder if the quality of the villain in a movie is more important to the greatness of a film than the quality of the hero?




Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on July 03, 2008, 12:02:16 pm
There were some great ones already mentioned.....I enjoyed Jigsaw from the Saw series just based on the sick sadistic shit he would do to people. It takes a whacked out freak to come up with that shit!!!!!


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on July 03, 2008, 02:52:16 pm
NO CONTEST!

Anton Chigurh

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Honorable mention to this ray of sunshine.  He's responsible for the BEST KILL in a horror flick ever.

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(The caption is in reference to his weakness to headless, one-armed zombies he just has to get a piece of in the game)


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: JVides on July 03, 2008, 03:19:51 pm
How has Darth Vader not been mentioned here?


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: StL FinFan on July 03, 2008, 03:25:54 pm
I was going to mention Darth Vader.


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Dave Gray on July 03, 2008, 03:27:35 pm
The No Country For Old Men guy is a good choice.  That performance was great.


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Buddhagirl on July 03, 2008, 04:23:48 pm
No Country for Old Men dude was scary as hell!


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: simeon on July 03, 2008, 04:32:03 pm
Hands down its DARTH VADER- The greatest movie villan of all time.


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: AprFools_Phins on July 03, 2008, 04:48:07 pm
Lord Voldemort


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: cyan on July 03, 2008, 09:29:51 pm
Here's the top-10 for me, many of which have already been mentioned.

01) Darth Vader
02) Hannibal Lecter
03) Anton Chigurgh (No Country for Old Men)
04) HAL 9000 (2001: A Space Odyssey)
05) Woo-Jin Lee (Oldboy)
06) Keyser Sose (The Usual Suspects)
07) T-1000 (Terminator 2: Judgement Day)
08) Ryunosuke Tsukue (The Sword of Doom)
09) Adolph Hitler (Der Untergang, Hitler: The Last Ten Days, Triumph of the Will, Schindler's List, etc.)
10) Enokizu Iwao (Vengeance is Mine)


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: bsfins on July 03, 2008, 11:13:56 pm
Total hijack....
When I saw this thread first thing this morning my first thought wasn't a character,but a Actors that tend to play villains....

I thought about
Ed Harris - (the Rock,history of violence,National treasure 2)
John Malkovich - Con air
Tim Currey- Don't laugh- (Rocky horror picture show ,Annie (rooster),and The butler in Clue)

If I had a to pick a character I'd say Denzel Washington in Training day...even though I'm not real fond of the movie...


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Sunstroke on July 03, 2008, 11:32:14 pm
Total hijack....
When I saw this thread first thing this morning my first thought wasn't a character,but a Actors that tend to play villains....

I thought about
Ed Harris - (the Rock,history of violence,National treasure 2)
John Malkovich - Con air
Tim Currey- Don't laugh- (Rocky horror picture show ,Annie (rooster),and The butler in Clue)

I have a hard time thinking of Ed Harris as a villain, mainly because the two movies of his that I've seen the most (Glengarry, Glen Ross and The Abyss), he really didn't play the villain.

I have a little bit of a hard time with Malkovich, though he did play a bitchin Cyrus the Virus in Con Air...because the other two movies I've seen him in a lot (Of Mice and Men and The Man in the Iron Mask) he played the good guy.

As far as Tim Curry goes, he actually played a villain you didn't list there that I damned near considered instead of Hannibal Lecter for this thread...but didn't because I figured everyone would think it was blatant stephen king bias on my part. Tim Curry played the ultimately scary clown, Pennywise, in "It."

"we all float down here..."



Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: simeon on July 04, 2008, 12:15:36 am
I also want to give mention to a villain who has never uttered a word on the screen, but brought horror onto the screen. Jason from Friday the 13 Th series still is a fan favorite among horror fans.


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: bsfins on July 04, 2008, 12:17:06 am
Malkovich was also the bad guy in In the line of fire....I never saw the man in the iron mask...Wasn't he also the killer in jenifer eight,or was that Lance hendrickson...I can't remember off the top of my head....I also think of him in Dangerous liasions...and Mary Shelly,where he played both Jeckyl and Hyde

Ed Harris was also one of John Nashes...bad figments of his imagination...in a beautiful mind...The evil director in the Truman show...

I keep wanting to watch "IT" When I see it on Scifi....

Modified to add since you brought up the Abyss..(I forgot his name had t go look it up...)
Michael Biehn..Who played the bad ranger dude in the Abyss,and played the bad guy Johnny Ringo in Tombstone...( the only other movie I can think of him in was navy seals where he was a good guy..)


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Sunstroke on July 04, 2008, 02:43:34 am
Modified to add since you brought up the Abyss..(I forgot his name had t go look it up...)
Michael Biehn..Who played the bad ranger dude in the Abyss,and played the bad guy Johnny Ringo in Tombstone...( the only other movie I can think of him in was navy seals where he was a good guy..)

He played one other good guy role that I'll bet you've seen once or twice...or a hundred times. Kyle Reese, the "sent back in time" father of John Connor in the original "Terminator" movie.



Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: BoSoxGrl on July 07, 2008, 09:59:52 am
Ok this isn't a movie villain, But I think "Dexter" deserves and honorable mention.


Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: MaineDolFan on July 07, 2008, 10:06:56 am
Top of my head:

John Doe, Kevin Spacey in Seven.


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Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: MaineDolFan on July 07, 2008, 10:09:27 am
Along with Kevin Spacey, my nod goes to Denzel Washington in Training Day.

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Title: Re: Movies: The best villain
Post by: Dave Gray on July 07, 2008, 12:18:04 pm
Ok this isn't a movie villain, But I think "Dexter" deserves and honorable mention.

Dexter is a hero, not a villain.  He's an unlikely hero, but a hero nonetheless.