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Title: John Beck has to go. Post by: jtex316 on August 10, 2008, 07:40:17 pm This guy is just not an NFL quarterback. I am very sorry. He works hard, yes, but he is no better than an emergency third string QB at this point in time. He looks like is afraid of being in that pocket (and if I were a Miami Dolphins QB, I would be afraid, too), and he looks completely unsure and uneasy. He is just not very talented. You can see the complete difference on the whole team when Chad Henne came in the game. He just LOOKS like a QB out there, stepping into throws and running the team with some authority (pair of balls).
Sorry John Beck. Time to get your real estate license. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: ethurst2 on August 10, 2008, 08:30:11 pm This guy is just not an NFL quarterback. I am very sorry. He works hard, yes, but he is no better than an emergency third string QB at this point in time. He looks like is afraid of being in that pocket (and if I were a Miami Dolphins QB, I would be afraid, too), and he looks completely unsure and uneasy. He is just not very talented. You can see the complete difference on the whole team when Chad Henne came in the game. He just LOOKS like a QB out there, stepping into throws and running the team with some authority (pair of balls). Sorry John Beck. Time to get your real estate license. Is he another Gino Torretta? ??? Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: jtex316 on August 10, 2008, 11:47:05 pm He is simply a good enough college QB who played against southwest utah community college's JV teams and was able to beat them, but he does not have anywhere near the physical or mental skills necessary to compete at the NFL level. It is very apparent, no matter how many five yard screen passes he is able to complete. He looked the exact same as he did last year - slow, flat-footed, and rock-hard from the waist down (not that idiots, his legs knees and thighs). He is also completely innacurate as a thrower, which if I recall correctly he was praised for being a "very accurate quarterback". Accurate at taking up space on an NFL roster, yes. Accurate throwing the football? Absolutely not.
This is clearly Chad Henne's future team, and Chad Pennington's to play around for a while. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Frimp on August 11, 2008, 12:05:25 am Wow...Jtex and I agree on something. :o
I don't think I was active on the boards during the Superbowl, so I'll say this now. A big thank you to your team, Jtex! Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Dave Gray on August 11, 2008, 02:18:47 am I think you may be right.
I just think he doesn't "have it". He looks flustered all the time. At first I thought it was just rookie jitters, but it stayed with him through the offseason. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Brian Fein on August 11, 2008, 11:25:19 am i think you guys are looking for him to look flustered. If you watch his game with a positive outlook, you'll see it differently.
I thought McCown looked WAY worse than Beck did out there in that game, and Beck played against the starting defense. I agree that Henne looked the best of the three. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: simeon on August 11, 2008, 01:41:08 pm i think you guys are looking for him to look flustered. If you watch his game with a positive outlook, you'll see it differently. Brian I don't think that is true, the facts remain that Beck did look flustered and rushed. The guy never really looked down field, he just threw dink and dunks and his best play was a nine yard reception by Ginn. Beck had no awareness in the pocket and was throwing inaccurate passes. Chad Henne went down the field and had great zip on the ball, a couple passes were a bit off but still catchable balls. All that aside I will say it is not time to dump Beck yet, I believe we should wait until Henne takes over the team then we can cut him. Jtex is correct in everything he said, except it's McCown who needs to go off this team this year.I thought McCown looked WAY worse than Beck did out there in that game, and Beck played against the starting defense. I agree that Henne looked the best of the three. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: gocowboys31 on August 11, 2008, 09:11:25 pm Beck should've never been drafted in the first place. Brady Quinn was the OBVIOUS choice. Beck played in a system at BYU where he's throwing 2 and 5 yard hicthes and the WR's do the rest. Anyone can be accurate throwing those kinda routes. Beck is a midget, has small hands, and dosen't semm confident in his ability. He should be the clear leader in the QB race before pennington arrived, but he's failed. time for the fat tuna to cut his losses.Forget about getting anything in a trade, the guy has zero value.
Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Tepop84 on August 11, 2008, 09:16:57 pm Yes beck should have never been drafted. Playing in a weak conference being atleast 4 years older than the rest of the people around him should have never got him drafted at all.
Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: USO-ORLANDO on August 11, 2008, 09:19:49 pm I hate to agree Beck is a shitbag,needs to go ahead and start looking for life after The NFL. (7-11 is always looking for a few good men)
30$ on pump 4...... Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Tepop84 on August 11, 2008, 09:26:50 pm I hate to agree Beck is a shitbag,needs to go ahead and start looking for life after The NFL. (7-11 is always looking for a few good men) 30$ on pump 4...... Why is he a shitbag? He just isn't a good football player, it doesn't mean he isn't a good person. And I am pretty sure with his education and money he got from being drafted, he won't ever have to work a shit job in his life. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: USO-ORLANDO on August 11, 2008, 09:39:10 pm Why is he a shitbag? He just isn't a good football player, it doesn't mean he isn't a good person. And I am pretty sure with his education and money he got from being drafted, he won't ever have to work a shit job in his life. I'm just venting,kick back relax its only the internet. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Sunstroke on August 12, 2008, 01:05:09 am Wow...John Beck isn't going to cut it as Miami's QB? Damn, who would have ever thought that would happen. ::) Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: DZA on August 12, 2008, 04:00:18 am i think you guys are looking for him to look flustered. If you watch his game with a positive outlook, you'll see it differently. I thought McCown looked WAY worse than Beck did out there in that game, and Beck played against the starting defense. I agree that Henne looked the best of the three. Agreed Beck looked like crap again . McClown ::) Henne while no TD's looked way better. Hopefully CP can put some scoring Drives together ??? ??? Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: ethurst2 on August 12, 2008, 10:35:57 am I keep being a sucker for these WAC (especially BYU) quarterbacks.
I was hoping that Beck would show great growth but he hasn't. You never want to tag "journeyman" to someone's career so early but if he doesn't get with a team and start showing something, he will be working in the private sector. I think that Beck needs to go to a team that has a West Coast Offense. HE doesn't fit Miami's offense. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: jtex316 on August 12, 2008, 11:53:40 am Isn't he technically already working in the private sector?
Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Dphins4me on August 12, 2008, 12:15:45 pm And some fans still say Miami should have drafted Drew Brees.
Yeap, fans would have waited 3 years for him to develop. :D This is not to say I believe Beck will develop, just that Miami fans have already tossed him aside after a short period. Heck, some did before he even took the field last year. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Brian Fein on August 12, 2008, 01:10:44 pm People have had a short hook with Beck because his name is not Brady Quinn. Had Brady Quinn been playing the exact same as John Beck for the Dolphins, he'd have gotten 20 free passes because he's a rookie.
::) Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Dphins4me on August 12, 2008, 01:25:28 pm People have had a short hook with Beck because his name is not Brady Quinn. Had Brady Quinn been playing the exact same as John Beck for the Dolphins, he'd have gotten 20 free passes because he's a rookie. Could not be more correct.Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: ethurst2 on August 12, 2008, 03:58:57 pm Beck is battling psychological issues to. He knows that the current regime doesn't want him.
If you look at the history of Parcells, he prefers big quarterbacks as far as size and weight with the exception of Phil Simms finally getting the nod over Scott Brunner years ago. The Giants brass had to convince Parcells that Simms was more accurate than Brunner Henne has the size that Parcells and crew like. I'm still pulling for Beck but he's a dead man walking with this regime. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on August 12, 2008, 04:17:14 pm People have had a short hook with Beck because his name is not Brady Quinn. Had Brady Quinn been playing the exact same as John Beck for the Dolphins, he'd have gotten 20 free passes because he's a rookie. ::) No, I've seen him play and he looks awful. Take away the uniform and stadium, throw some cheap Walmart shorts and an old worn out Emmitt Smith jersey and you couldn't differentiate between Beck the "NFL" QB from Pedro from Jiffy Lube playing in Tropical Park. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Sunstroke on August 12, 2008, 05:00:27 pm I took so much grief for calling it as I saw it when I said "John Beck will not start another game for the Miami Dolphins" after last season ended. I said it because I knew we had new (and more importantly, "competent") coaches and personnel evaluators coming in, and I knew they would see the same thing...that John Beck is not NFL QB material. It was a mistake to draft him, and it's a mistake we should put behind us. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Rick on August 12, 2008, 07:41:03 pm ^^Not all of us gave you grief Stroke ;)......some of us agreed with you about Beck....John needs to be given his walking papers ASAP!!!!
Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Dphins4me on August 12, 2008, 07:52:26 pm Yeap & I can see the MB in a few years if he goes to another team & does well. They screwed up by letting him go to soon.
Beck may or may not be a NFL QB, but its still to soon to determine. Everyone that is so high on Henne ( I think he will be a quality QB also ). Remember he is playing against vanilla D & guys that will be working at jiffy lube in a couple of weeks. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: CF DolFan on August 12, 2008, 08:36:25 pm I just curious ... how many people who wanted Brian Griese gone were wishing we had him after his performance Sat night?
Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: ethurst2 on August 12, 2008, 09:03:27 pm I just curious ... how many people who wanted Brian Griese gone were wishing we had him after his performance Sat night? Brian Griese was here at Coors Field a few weeks ago raising money for children who lost their parents to disease. He's a nice guy. Griese's problem is that he always goes to the wrong offensive system. He's not as athletic as his father, Bob Griese. In Denver, he was expected to be John Elway but there is only one Elway. Griese's skills compliment a power running game (just like his father). In Miami, he didn't get a fair shot. He had the great game against San Diego on Monday Night when they had to move the game to Arizona and I thought that he had finally settled in as the Dolphins QB. Thanks to Wade Smith totally getting beat and Ricky Williams missing a chip block on Dwight Freeney, Griese's Dolphin stint came crashing down when Freeney hit Griese from the blind side. That was in end of Griese in Miami. Brian Griese has to have ALL the tools to be an effective quarterback. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Tepop84 on August 12, 2008, 09:12:28 pm In Miami, he didn't get a fair shot. He had the great game against San Diego on Monday Night when they had to move the game to Arizona and I thought that he had finally settled in as the Dolphins QB. Thanks to Wade Smith totally getting beat and Ricky Williams missing a chip block on Dwight Freeney, Griese's Dolphin stint came crashing down when Freeney hit Griese from the blind side. That was in end of Griese in Miami. It wasn't one play that did him in. He was a turnover machine. Title: Re: John Beck has to go. Post by: Brian Fein on August 12, 2008, 09:51:52 pm I just curious ... how many people who wanted Brian Griese gone were wishing we had him after his performance Sat night? None, he still sucks. |