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Title: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 12, 2008, 09:03:31 am http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-0812feely,0,2242370.story
I hate to say I told you so.... Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot By Omar Kelly | Sun-Sentinel.com 8:54 AM EDT, August 12, 2008 DAVIE - Kicker Jay Feely was cut by the Dolphins Tuesday morning, clearing the way for rookie kicker Dan Carpenter to take the starting spot. Feely, a seven-year veteran, set a franchise record last season for accuracy, converting 21 of 23 field goals. Feely has been battling a groin strain that forced him to sit out practice last week and miss Saturday's 17-6 exhibition loss to Tampa Bay. In that game, Carpenter, an undrafted rookie free agent from Montana, converted a 41 and 49 yard field goal. During his college career he converted 75 of 103 field goals and 182 of 188 extra points. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 12, 2008, 09:25:27 am http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2008/08/kicker-jay-feel.html
Kicker Jay Feely released by Dolphins Jay Feely, who was arguably the Dolphins most consistent performer in 2007, will not be with the team in 2008. This morning Feely was called in by the Dolphins braintrust and released, according to a source. Feely confirmed the release on a local radio and in conversations with local reporters, which he called to volunteer the information. That very move is one small reason the Dolphins had Feely on a very short leash. Bill Parcells hated the fact Feeley was so media friendly. But Parcells also hated that Feely wasn't great with his kickoffs last year that problem coupled with the player's injury the past 10 days or so spelled the end. Feely missed practices and the first preseason game with a groin injury. In Feely's absence, rookie Dan Carpenter won the job with Miami. Carpenter connected on field goals of 41 and 49 yards during the preseason-opener against Tampa Bay. I cannot stress enough the focus the Dolphins are now putting on not losing hidden yardage in games. Last season, for example, special teams assistant Keith Armstrong bemoaned the fact that in one game alone, Feely's low and short kickoffs cost the Dolphins 80 yards of field position. Armstrong would not say what game that was, but the statistic was startling. The Dolphins were not good enough then and are still not good enough now to recover from that kind of field position liability. I assume the team believes Carpenter will be better on kickoffs. Against Tampa Bay, he had three kickoffs and none were in the end zone. So Feely, 32, is a free agent. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with Tampa Bay or New Orleans. Last year Feely connected on 21 of 23 field goals. So the Dolphins say good-bye to another vet. And this blog loses a loyal reader. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Brian Fein on August 12, 2008, 09:32:01 am Terrible move.
Parcells is starting to piss me off. There's a time to end croneyism and "bringing in your own guys" in the interest of better players and giving the team a chance to win. I am wondering which he's more interested in building: a successful football team, or his ego. Parcells needs his walking papers. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: fyo on August 12, 2008, 09:43:41 am My only concern is with the RISK this moves introduces. The potential reward does not seem like it even remotely outweighs the risk of Carpenter bombing once it counts.
Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Brian Fein on August 12, 2008, 10:28:39 am The guys on the TV broadcast kept raving about Carpenter's strong leg, etc. Yet, he couldn't manage to put a kickoff inside the 10. WTF?
Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: ethurst2 on August 12, 2008, 10:43:13 am No surprise here. I'm surprised it wasn't sooner.
Parcells thoughts on kickers is that they should be seen and not heard. You can ask Mike "The Idiot Kicker" Vanderjagt about that. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 12, 2008, 10:44:03 am The guys on the TV broadcast kept raving about Carpenter's strong leg, etc. Yet, he couldn't manage to put a kickoff inside the 10. WTF? That's because the coaches wanted too see his directional kickoffs during the Tampa game. It was mentioned in the Miami Herald. http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/miami-dolphins/story/635965.html Quote Carpenter said this week that the Dolphins were asking him to concentrate on directional kickoffs instead of powering them as deep as he could. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Rick on August 12, 2008, 11:13:25 am Great move by the new regime....Dan Carpenter has clearly outperformed Jay Feely for the kicker position on this team....like Ethurst said, a kicker should be seen, not heard....Feely liked to be heard way to much for Bill Parcells/Ireland/CoachSparano's taste....its not like Feely had to make ANY game winning kicks last season as Miami only won 1 game!!
As for Carpenter bombing...it's possible....its also possible he is the next A. Vinatieri Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Sunstroke on August 12, 2008, 11:13:42 am There's a time to end croneyism and "bringing in your own guys" in the interest of better players and giving the team a chance to win. Not sure how an undrafted rookie FA could qualify as a "croneyism" move. And...walking papers? For the first real football person we've had in our front office in damned near forever? Over a kicker? I didn't know the bond you and Feely shared was so tight... Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Phishfan on August 12, 2008, 11:15:52 am The guys on the TV broadcast kept raving about Carpenter's strong leg, etc. Yet, he couldn't manage to put a kickoff inside the 10. WTF? But that 49 yarder looked like it would have been good from 59 and was straight down the pipe. I think Carpenter may prove to be an upgrade. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 12, 2008, 11:20:10 am http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2008/08/12/0812feely.html
Dolphins release vetern kicker Jay Feely By EDGAR THOMPSON Palm Beach Post Staff Writer Tuesday, August 12, 2008 DAVIE — The Dolphins released veteran kicker Jay Feely this morning, continuing the team's youth movement under the new Bill Parcells-led regime. Given the direction of the franchise, Feely, 32, said he wasn't really surprised when the team told him this morning he'd been released. Undrafted rookie Dan Carpenter, 22, will replace Feely. The Dolphins now have seven players 30 or older. Feely, an eight-year veteran of three teams, said he feels like he did everything he was asked to do, highlighted by a record-setting season in 2007 - his first with the Dolphins. Feely hit 21 of 23 field-goal attempts, setting a Dolphins record for field-goal percentage (91.3). "You wanna believe if you perform well and work hard and are a good guy, you'll be wanted," Feely told The Palm Beach Post this morning. "Obviously that's not the case." Feely, a team captain last season, has been out with a groin injury, allowing Carpenter a chance to prove himself. He responded with field goals of 41 and 49 yards during the Dolphins' 17-6 loss to Tampa Bay in the pre-season opener last Saturday. "I don't think the injury was the reason," Feely said of his release. "It was a decision they wanted to make." Feely, who strained an oblique muscle in June, said general manager Jeff Ireland broke the news to him. Feely, who also played for Atlanta and the New York Giants, said five or six teams have expressed interest in him. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Brian Fein on August 12, 2008, 11:28:56 am Not sure how an undrafted rookie FA could qualify as a "croneyism" move. And...walking papers? For the first real football person we've had in our front office in damned near forever? Over a kicker? I didn't know the bond you and Feely shared was so tight... Its not just Feely. It has been a long string of moves, starting with Jeff Ireland, and continues. Seems like Parcells doesn't want anyone in his organization that isn't either his friend or his signee or his draft pick.Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 12, 2008, 11:42:24 am http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/breaking-news/story/638564.html
Miami Dolphins release kicker Jay Feely BY JEFF DARLINGTON Miami Herald Less than a year after setting the Dolphins' single-season record for field-goal proficiency, kicker Jay Feely was told Tuesday morning that he has been cut from the team as a result of Miami's desire to get younger. Dan Carpenter, an undrafted free agent rookie from Montana who has made solid impressions during training camp, has in turn taken over as the team's starter. ''I talked about it this summer with all of my family,'' said Feely, reached on his cellphone Tuesday morning. ``I had a feeling from the day [Bill] Parcells got hired that this was going to be the case.'' Asked why he got the impression that the new regime wasn't fond of him from the start, Feely said he wasn't sure. But he noted it likely had to do with his outspoken nature -- a public persona (albeit positive in nature) that clashes with the philosophies of this team. ''I don't know,'' Feely said. ``I don't have the answer to that. You want to believe that, if you perform well, you work hard and you're a good guy, that you have job security. Obviously, that's not the case.'' His case for why he met the criteria of a successful kicker? Last season, Feely was voted a team captain by his teammates. He said he attended 100 percent of offseason workouts despite a contractual obligation to attend 90 percent. And he also is coming off the three most consecutively successful seasons of his career. Of course, this decision will ultimately be viewed as a football move -- one intended to allow the team to get younger. And that's the one aspect of his release that Feely is able to understand and respect. ''That's what Bill Parcells talked to me about,'' Feely said. ``They want to get younger. They want to build a young nucleus. And I understand that. You have a long-term perspective. But it doesn't make it easier when you're cut.'' Interest across the league is expected to be high, given Feely's success over the past several years, including last season when he hit 21 of 23 field goals, as well as the belief that other teams won't be as turned off by his personality as Parcells was. ''I don't know that [personality] had any impact on the decision,'' Feely said. ``But it had an impact on their aloofness toward me from the beginning. Each coach talked to me about that, and I was willing. I stopped doing all interviews and stopped doing ESPN, maybe to the detriment of my own post-career. But when your coach asks you to do something, part of your job is to be willing to do that. ``I did everything they asked me to do, but it ultimately didn't matter.'' For the past several days, Miami has been attempting to trade Feely but eventually decided to simply waive him. Getting the sense this was the direction the team was headed, Feely and his agent have already been discussing potential landing places. ''There's a lot of positives,'' Feely said, noting the biggest negative is having to leave his family in South Florida for a season while he plays elsewhere. ``I'm sure I'll go to a team that does better. The Dolphins have a lot of growing to do, they need playmakers and they need a lot of different things. They're building for the future, and that takes time to supplement that lack of talent that existed there. I'll be excited for my opportunity, wherever it is. ``And I'll be excited when I do an interview, nobody will look down on me.'' Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Dphins4me on August 12, 2008, 12:12:33 pm Not a bad deal for Feely. He got about 3 million or so for 1 year
Nice haul for a kicker on a 1-15 team Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 12, 2008, 12:58:01 pm Parcells is starting to piss me off. There's a time to end croneyism and "bringing in your own guys" in the interest of better players and giving the team a chance to win. I am wondering which he's more interested in building: a successful football team, or his ego. You really wonder about that. You know the answer. His ego. That being said, he is the best thing that happened to the Dolphins since Marino. But his ego is number one. Just like it was with the Giants, Patriots, Jets and Dallas. But this is no different than Bill Belichick, Don Shula or Brett Favre are like many people more concerned about there own ego than the success of "the team." I doubt you will find a compentant coach who doesn't have a huge ego. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Sunstroke on August 12, 2008, 01:59:39 pm Seems like Parcells doesn't want anyone in his organization that isn't either his friend or his signee or his draft pick. I certainly can see where you're coming from, but to me it just seems like Parcells wants as many "young and talented" players as he can get his meathooks on. For a ground zero type rebuilding job, I think that is a good approach to take. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: TonyB0D on August 12, 2008, 02:04:55 pm unfortunately complete total reconstructive surgery isn't pain-free....
Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Brian Fein on August 12, 2008, 03:34:59 pm I'm all for good young players, but I'd take talented skilled players who are slightly older over young shots in the dark.
Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on August 12, 2008, 04:13:01 pm I'm all for good young players, but I'd take talented skilled players who are slightly older over young shots in the dark. I agree. They're freaking kickers. They can kick until their 80's. What we need is accuracy under pressure to deliver those 3 point wins. We all know how many of those are going to be happening the next couple of years. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Dolphin-UK on August 12, 2008, 04:34:54 pm I see this as a pretty binary situation. We're either a playoff team or we aren't. With Feely we aren't, without Feely we aren't, ergo, bring in the cheaper rookie, give him some experience playing under pressure and in 2 years time when we can start thinking about playoffs again, he'll be that experienced kicker under pressure (hopefully!) It seems he's got the leg and the accuracy at the moment.
I suspect my view differs a little here, because IMHO if we're not going to make the playoffs (which we shouldn't!) we ideally want to finish 3rd or 4th worst in the league to get the high draft picks (on the basis we could do without another number 1 pick to cripple our cap but still want a shot at the top talent). Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Rick on August 12, 2008, 04:59:19 pm I'm all for good young players, but I'd take talented skilled players who are slightly older over young shots in the dark. Brian, I read in one of the articles(somewhere) that because of Jay Feely's kickoffs, Miami lost 80 yards of field position in JUST ONE of the games last year.....Feely is really bad on kickoffs, which puts the defense in a tough position to start a drive....we do need a kicker who can make field goals, but he also has to be able to kick the ball deep or directionally on kickoffs....Dan Carpenter has been doing that very well so far, actually better then Feely!!!Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DZA on August 12, 2008, 05:58:12 pm HMMMM ??? ??? I knew this was going to happen. Feely was not bad. Sources say he was old by Camoron to pooch kicks.
This was a bad move for now. Dan C. did look good in his debut but it preseason. Who knows waht the reg season hold for the rookie. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on August 12, 2008, 06:00:03 pm This is a gamble. While the Dolphins will save money on the salary cap, we don't know what Carpenter is capable of.
Although the theory of getting younger is spreading quickly all over this team. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 12, 2008, 09:57:01 pm Great move by the new regime....Dan Carpenter has clearly outperformed Jay Feely for the kicker position on this team....like Ethurst said, a kicker should be seen, not heard....Feely liked to be heard way to much for Bill Parcells/Ireland/CoachSparano's taste....its not like Feely had to make ANY game winning kicks last season as Miami only won 1 game!! As for Carpenter bombing...it's possible....its also possible he is the next A. Vinatieri Apparently, Carpenter didn't just beat out Feely. Carpenter took him to school. Check out this little tidbit from Coach Sparano's Press Conference. Quote "The decision was based purely on numbers and performance, and (Dan) Carpenter has outperformed him right now. That's the bottom line. We charted a ton of categories with the kickers and Carpenter has outperformed him. The kicking situation is different than a quarterback situation or any other position to be honest with you. What I mean by that is you get very few "at bats". Sometimes, you have to be real careful. We needed to make this decision now to make sure that we certainly get Carpenter the amount of work that he needs. Carpenter's had 40 kicks and he's made 23 in a row. Up until today, when he missed one kick today, he made 23 kicks in a row. So when you talk about competition, you see a guy do that when he's competing and that's what we did out here. Up until today, prior to today's practice, he made 93% of his kicks, 40 kicks. Of 40 kicks, he made 93%. The numbers weren't close and in the categories that we go through, that's the way it was. It was based on performance and we needed to make a decision on this so that he gets enough work. We had two kicks in the game the other night, and by the grace of God, we had two kicks. (Chad) Henne had to put the ball down, make a smart decision to get us into field goal range or else you only have one kick. You don't get a lot of at bats sometimes and I think with the kickers, when you can, if you can make that decision and feel good about the decision, you have to make it." Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Philly Fin Fan on August 12, 2008, 10:06:11 pm ^^ So they went with a guy who has made 93% of the kicks in training camp, versus an experienced kicker who made 91.3% of his field goal attempts in the NFL. ???
OK Bill, you're the boss. If you say so..... Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 12, 2008, 10:11:28 pm ^^ So they went with a guy who has made 93% of the kicks in training camp, versus an experienced kicker who made 91.3% of his field goal attempts in the NFL. ??? OK Bill, you're the boss. If you say so..... Doesn't have the distances. If most of the 93% were of the longer variety (which is suspect occurs in camp) than your comparison becomes meaningless. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 12, 2008, 10:41:25 pm http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_seasonticket/2008/08/fins-the-feely.html
Fins: The Feely cut If this is about getting younger and getting better hang time on kickoffs, that's understandable. That's a football decision. Jeff Ireland is a former kicker, so he knows what he wants at the position (and Nick Folk was a great find in Dallas). If Jay Feely's openness with the media, and pursuit of his own media opportunities, had anything to do with his release -- well, that's ridiculous. But it certainly wouldn't be surprising if the latter contributed; and it wouldn't surprise Feely. Bill Parcells, after all, is one of the godfathers of this trend of paranoia around the NFL. Bill Belichick is a crooked branch on his tree. Never mind that many organizations with less restrictive policies have still had great success. Yes, Feely co-hosted a WQAM radio show for a while. Yes, he used to appear regularly on First Take (which made him an ESPN colleague of Parcells). Yes, he spoke to any reporter who asked him a question (and too many solicited his opinion on too many subjects, considering that he's a kicker). But, other than a comment about Ricky Williams that was misinterpreted, I can't recall him saying anything that compromised his teammates or the organization. He never acted unprofessionally. And, last season, he was the most efficient player on the team. But this is an organization that, on its press release, listed the draft picks it received for Jason Taylor as "undisclosed," even when they were widely known elsewhere. It is an organization that (according to three players I've talked to) has warned guys not to talk too much to the media, or else risk getting cut. Professional football is a great game. This league is no longer a great one to cover, however, because of paranoid organizations -- and the paranoia that started here in 2005 has only gotten worse. The only thing an organization should worry about is winning games. So, hopefully, this was a purely football decision. It will be judged by whether Dan Carpenter helps, or hurts, on the field. > Posted by Ethan J. Skolnick at 9:20:26 AM Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 12, 2008, 10:47:02 pm http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_seasonticket/2008/08/fins-who-is-dan.html
Fins: Who is Dan Carpenter? Dan Carpenter grew up throwing the javelin and playing soccer. He kicked at Montana, which has produced a handful of NFL players, including offensive lineman Scott Gragg, safety Tuff Harris and offensive lineman Cory Procter. Procter played for Tony Sparano in Dallas. And, of course, Lex Hilliard is a Dolphins running back draftee. In 2006, he filled in as a punter after the regular punter was injured. That year, he executed two fake punts in the same game, running 45 yards on one play in the final minute. In that same game, he drew two roughing the kicker calls. Tony Sparano said today that Carpenter had made 37 of his 40 kicks in practice. In college, he made 75-of-103. Feely made 20-of-26 at Michigan. Don't make too much of the college numbers, particularly the 28 misses. Adam Vinatieri made only 27-of-53 field goal attempts while at South Dakota State. Robbie Gould made 39-of-61 while at Penn State. Jason Elam made 79-of-100 for Hawaii. Nick Folk made 30-of-47 for Arizona. Olindo Mare made 15-of-24 for Syracuse. Stephen Gostkowski made 70-of-92 for Memphis. So Carpenter compares favorably. Again, if the Dolphins believe that Carpenter gives them a better chance to win long-term, you can't take issue with that. If peripheral issues played a part, then it's a highly questionable move. > Posted by Ethan J. Skolnick at 2:43:35 PM Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 12, 2008, 11:37:11 pm http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/639330.html
Cutting Feely business, not personal BY GREG COTE Miami Herald The Dolphins cut placekicker Jay Feely on Tuesday like a guillotine cuts off a head, and for any who still doubted it, this should have proved it for sure: There is nothing touchy-feely about the people now running the Dolphins. A pragmatic ruthlessness permeates the way football boss Bill Parcells and coach Tony Sparano operate, and it is about time. It is about a decade overdue. Healthy fear runs through the team like electricity, chasing away the last remnants of leftover complacency, of softness. Any player feeling any sense of entitlement has met an enemy he cannot beat in a demanding new regime that brings precisely the massive teardown and buildup -- the slap in the face -- a 1-15 team required. Don Shula was the granite-jawed autocrat down here, the antithesis of a ''player's coach.'' He had that one chair in his office, where players called in for discipline had to sit. There hasn't been a more feared seat this side of Old Sparky. Jimmy Johnson came next, every bit as much a ruling monarch. JJ's iron fist was legend. All you had to do was tell the story of the rookie Cowboys lineman who fell asleep in a meeting and was awakened and cut on the spot in front of the entire team. Shula and Johnson left with the 1990s, and if you want to know why it has been a downward spiral for this franchise since the start of this decade, just look at the coaches who have followed in their place. Players made fun of nice-guy Dave Wannstedt behind his back, with his dime-store psychology, the lobster traps hanging from ceiling the week of a ''trap'' game. Nick Saban came in with his Napoleon complex, seeming tough but learning what worked with the college kids didn't translate in the pros. Cam Cameron arrived next and was the one-year nightmare, losing the locker room and utterly disrespected, as when Joey Porter defied a specific order to return directly after a game at Pittsburgh and an emasculated Cameron did nothing about it. NEW CULTURE Miami hasn't had a man with the vision or spine to be an NFL coach since Shula and Johnson, but seems to have that leadership again in the tandem of the no-nonsense Parcells and his coach/consiglierie in the blunt-spoken Sparano. The coach has talked of changing the ''culture'' here. That starts with the players knowing who is boss. Knowing that someone is. So the new regime lopped Feely off the roster and the man just cut was bleeding in the media Tuesday about how he had been treated unfairly because of a perceived personality conflict with Parcells. That idea that Parcells would place ego above team in eradicating a player not perceived as a ''Parcells guy'' might be easier to swallow if the Tuna's golden child this training camp and preseason wasn't a former pot-smoking and often-suspended Ricky Williams -- who has taken advantage of the clean slate given. Feely's conspiracy theory is nonsense, and Sparano pretty much said so, noting rookie Dan Carpenter had outperformed Feely toe-to-toe in direct competition. ''The numbers weren't close,'' Sparano said Tuesday afternoon. The new coach has shown a knack for candor, and it feels like fresh air. As when Sparano was asked this week what his wide receivers need to improve upon and, unsmiling, he said, ``Catching the ball.'' Feely made 21 of 23 field-goal attempts last year to set a Dolphins record for accuracy, but that only proves what you have done in the past counts for zero with the new regime. Nobody on the team should be more worried than the well-paid veteran who is coasting on his résumé' or always in the trainer's room -- the man who feels above being cut. (Are you listening, receiver Ernest Wilford?) Placekickers are famously interchangeable parts, as we will see again if Carpenter falters and a new leg is hauled out of the crowded waiting room called free agency. EVERYONE IS FAIR GAME For now, there is ruthless logic at work in this transaction. Feely is 32. The man replacing him is 22, makes a fraction of the salary, kicks deeper kickoffs, has been more accurate this camp, hasn't been injured and is hungrier. The larger point is that nobody is safe in this systematic overhaul. From beloved veterans Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor to that no-name lineman they cut a day after he missed a practice with blisters, no player gets a free pass as Team Tuna takes a machete to the status quo and builds a new team. Quarterback Chad Pennington, 32, is the latest big piece brought to a puzzle gradually filling in, a welcome indication that the new bosses believe you try to be as good as you can now while simultaneously building for the future. Signing Pennington was a nationally broadcast statement that veteran Josh McCown and second-year man John Beck are not good enough, and that rookie Chad Henne isn't ready to be good enough. Egos surely bruised. So be it. This is a team under heavy construction. Men at work and hard hats required. This is a no-coddling zone. ''We're kind of out of the [not] hurting people's feelings business right now,'' as Sparano put it. ``We're getting into the real deal here.'' The new regime has three exhibition games and about eight practices left to whip this team into respectability. After six consecutive years out of the playoffs and eight consecutive years of coaches too soft to earn respect, that whip sounds more and more like just what the Dolphins have needed. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Frimp on August 13, 2008, 01:26:45 am Shit
Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: fyo on August 13, 2008, 04:11:37 am Brian, I read in one of the articles(somewhere) that because of Jay Feely's kickoffs, Miami lost 80 yards of field position in JUST ONE of the games last year.....Feely is really bad on kickoffs, which puts the defense in a tough position to start a drive.... 80 yards in one game? I doubt that. I follow advanced tracking stats for kickers and Miami have been doing poorly - both in distance and in coverage - but 80 yards in one game off the kicker alone is wacked out. That said, it has been widely reported, and confirmed by Feely, that he was asked to pooch kick a lot last year, simply because Cam didn't trust the special teams coverage (unstandably, since it was HORRIBLE). On the few live practice blogs where they have talked about kickoffs, Feely consistently kicked a lot deeper than Carpenter (10-15 yards deeper), but with less hang-time. Both things are important, so it's hard to really say what's better without the exact details. Still, you have to wonder about this move... The thought of having at least one position where we had one of the top guys in the league, a solid, stable, DEPENDABLE guy... well, that's worth a lot in my opinion, even when we're not a threat to make the playoffs. Like everyone else, I really hope Carpenter proves to be great. I have nothing against him, just like I have nothing against Feely. I just don't think the RISK generated by the move is worth the potential REWARD. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on August 13, 2008, 07:55:07 am Apparently Feely had some parting shots against the Parcells regime. He doesn't understand that this move was a business decision.... get younger and clear cap space.
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/columnists/story/639330.html Its not just Feely. It has been a long string of moves, starting with Jeff Ireland, and continues. Seems like Parcells doesn't want anyone in his organization that isn't either his friend or his signee or his draft pick. If that's the case, then what are Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown still doing here as RBs?? And why are Yeremiah Bell and Jason Allen starting safeties?? I never liked Jay Feely's attitude. Kickers are like children.... they should be seen and not heard. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Rick on August 13, 2008, 11:17:41 am 80 yards in one game? I doubt that. I follow advanced tracking stats for kickers and Miami have been doing poorly - both in distance and in coverage - but 80 yards in one game off the kicker alone is wacked out. I cannot stress enough the focus the Dolphins are now putting on not losing hidden yardage in games. Last season, for example, special teams assistant Keith Armstrong bemoaned the fact that in one game alone, Feely's low and short kickoffs cost the Dolphins 80 yards of field position. Armstrong would not say what game that was, but the statistic was startling.This is from the 2nd article of this thread on page 1...read it ;)......I do not have any idea why you would think I would make something like this up. :D Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 13, 2008, 12:15:13 pm Apparently Feely had some parting shots against the Parcells regime. He doesn't understand that this move was a business decision.... get younger and clear cap space. http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/columnists/story/639330.html If that's the case, then what are Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown still doing here as RBs?? And why are Yeremiah Bell and Jason Allen starting safeties?? I never liked Jay Feely's attitude. Kickers are like children.... they should be seen and not heard. Feely is pretty much coming off as petty and childish. He needs to grow up, and move on. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Rick on August 13, 2008, 12:53:49 pm Feely is pretty much coming off as petty and childish. He needs to grow up, and move on. You and Tommy nailed it.....Feely needs to shut-up and hit the road!!! I am glad Parcells/Ireland/Coach Sparano canned his whiny ass!!!!BTW...GREAT CALL Dolfan619....you said Dan Carpenter would be Miami's new starting kicker a long time ago!! Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 13, 2008, 01:16:52 pm BTW...GREAT CALL Dolfan619....you said Dan Carpenter would be Miami's new starting kicker a long time ago!! Once Bill Parcells came in, Jay Feely's days were numbered. Dan Carpenter's performance just made the desicion to release Jay Feely a whole lot easier. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: fyo on August 14, 2008, 05:29:39 pm For those who say kickers should be seen and not heard... you guys are idiots. Sorry, but that's just nuts. If you want to set a standard for a team, fine, set it for the team. But to have one set of standards for linemen, one for cornerbacks, one for quarterbacks and another for kickers, that's just stupid and really bad for morale.
Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: Rick on August 15, 2008, 05:53:38 pm For those who say kickers should be seen and not heard... you guys are idiots. Sorry, but that's just nuts. You must of been a kicker :D.....I don't mind being an idiot ;) Lots of people think that way about kickers ( Peyton Manning, Bill Parcells Etc).....Did you happen to read that article about Jay Feely costing Miami 80 yards of field position in one game? Thats a crazy stat!!!Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: StL FinFan on August 15, 2008, 05:56:54 pm I agree with fyo. Why should kickers not be allowed to have an opinion? They are part of the team, too. Maybe Jay Feely did cost a lot of field position, but that has not been the subject of conversation on this thread.
Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: fyo on August 15, 2008, 06:18:48 pm You must of been a kicker :D..... CB/WR. I just don't prescribe to the theory of some players being less part of the team than others. That's primitive, idiotic crap. Title: Re: Dolphins cut Feely; Carpenter set for starting spot Post by: DolFan619 on August 15, 2008, 07:10:33 pm I don't mind a player giving his opinion on occasion. If John Denney wanted to chime in his .02 cents about the quarterback situation, I wouldn't mind. My problem is when players talk too much, and can't shut up. That's what Feely was and still is. Feely's problem is that he's too open and honest and he'll let things fly out of his mouth, that really should be kept in house. I've brought this up before, but I'll bring it up again. When Ricky Williams was reinstated, Feely opened up and blasted Ricky about how he didn't trust him, and didn't want him as a teammate.
A lot of people on these boards ripped Feely to shreds over those comments. Not that I blame the sentiment at that time considering Feely has never met the guy and that Ricky has had more shower time as a Miami Dolphin than Feely had playing time. Anyways, what Jay needs to realize is that he can have an opinion. But he doesn't need to chime in on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE. He's a kicker, not a candidate for President of the United States. Players can have opinions, but there's a time and a place for everything. That's just something Feely can't understand. |