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Dolphins trade Travis Daniels to Browns

The Dolphins have just announced the trade of cornerback Travis Daniels to Cleveland in exchange for an undisclosed draft pick.

Daniels had been running with the second team and was seemingly en route to making the team until struggling somewhat Saturday at Jacksonville. Daniels, in his fourth NFL season, fills a void for the Browns because their corners got toasted against the Giants.

Daniels is already on a flight to Cleveland. The move pretty much guarantees that Joey Thomas, who had an interception Saturday, will make the team.

It also opens the possibility that either Chris Roberson, Nathan Jones or Will Billingsley will have a spot on the team. This week's return of Michael Lehan from a high ankle sprain gave the Dolphins three starting-caliber corners along with Will Allen and Andre' Goodman.

One NFL source said the Browns inquired about getting Lehan ahead of Daniels but the Dolphins didn't want to do that.

REALLY?  Is Michael Lehan more valued than Travis Daniels?  Has Daniels slipped that far, or has Lehan improved that much?

Daniels tends to be overrated by the fans IMO. The guy was alright, but never really that good I thought.

I agree that Daniels was over rated. He knew Saban's schemes, since he played for him at LSU, so he looked great as a rookie.  All in all, not a bad move. Daniels very well could've been cut, so the fact that they got a pick for him is nice.

Maybe that's it, Philly.  I liked Daniels his rookie year, but after that, he fell off big time.  I guess his inability to learn new schemes made him a worse player.  Just kinda surprised at how highly they speak of Michael Lehan, though.

Please explain to me:

What does undisclosed draft pick mean?  When do find out what the draft pick was?

Philly is exactly right here.  The guy came on strong towards the end of his rookie season and was posed for a breakout season in 2006.  He knew Saban's schemes, which put him ahead of the learning curve as a rookie.  While all the other DB's were learning this complicated system, he already knew what to do. 

However, he sustained a high ankle sprain at the beginning of training camp 2006, came back from it too early, and struggled with pain all season.  At the end of that season, Saban left, and he was forced to learn a new defensive scheme (twice), that exposed his weakness as a cover corner. 

I'm also glad they were able to get something for him rather than just cut him loose for nothing. 



Undisclosed draft pick means the media has a source that can confirm the Dolphins got a pick but is unsure which round it will be in (or if it's conditional).  As time goes on, I'm sure we'll find out what type of pick it was.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3544011

Another one of those other coach's guys are gone!  If the Ronnie deal happens we know it isn't personal. It's Parcells.

Who?

I need to start paying more attention to this team.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/miamidolphins/entries/2008/08/20/dolphins_trade_travis_daniels.html

Dolphins trade Travis Daniels

By Edgar Thompson | Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 01:59 PM

Defensive back Travis Daniels’ up-and-down career with the Dolphins has ended.

The team announced it has traded Daniels, a fourth-round pick in 2005, to the Cleveland Brown for an undisclosed draft choice.

Daniels started 25 games during three seasons for the Dolphins, but his play dropped off significantly since his rookie season under Nick Saban, his former coach at LSU.

Daniels had 62 tackles and 13 passes defensed as a rookie, but had a combined 63 tackles and six passes defensed the past two seasons.

Daniels, 25, bottomed out last season, when he routinely gave up big plays and seemed to lose his confidence. Daniels allowed an average of 10.9 yards per completion in 2007, ranking among the worst in the NFL.

Now only three players are left from the 2005 draft class.  Three also from 2006, one from 2004 and one from 2003. 

Our recent past drafts are looking worse and worse as time goes on. 

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-daniels082008,0,1588099.story

Dolphins trade CB Travis Daniels to Browns

By Omar Kelly
Sun-Sentinel.com

2:01 PM EDT, August 20, 2008

The Dolphins have traded cornerback Travis Daniels to the Cleveland Browns for an undisclosed draft pick.

Daniels, a South Broward product who the Dolphins selected in the fourth round of the 2005 draft, started 25 games for his hometown team.

But most of those starts came in his rookie season, where he played for Nick Saban, who happened to be his coach at LSU. Injuries and inconsistent play have limited his production since.

This summer free agent signee Joey Thomas was pushing him for one of the Dolphins' final roster spots.

Trading him to the Browns increases the likelihood that the Dolphins will retain Thomas, who had an interception in Saturday's 19-14 win over Jacksonville.

The Dolphins now have 73 players on the training camp roster. On Aug. 26, NFL teams must trim their roster to 75 players, but the Dolphins are already under that total.

On Aug. 30, NFL teams must make their final cuts, getting down to the 53-man roster they will take into the regular season.

I've always thought Daniels sucked and wondered why we kept him around.  I think Lehan is just as good but Daniels warrants a draft pick where I think Lehan doesn't.  Smart move by the trifecta.

Somebody please give me the details on the last few drafts.  Have any of our late rounders gone on to make the team?

I mean, besides Fields.

Did we just get nothing for Daniels?

read the first sentence of the article, assclown.

The Miami Dolphins traded cornerback Travis Daniels to the Cleveland Browns for a seventh-round draft pick

How many of the players are still in the league? 

IF Daniels has a long career with Cleveland then his talent justifies his pick.  He just fell out of favor with the new regime. 

Read my post again.

I can't recall any of our late round drafts picks making the team in the last few years.

Therefore, we will take somebody with that pick and cut him in training cut, thus giving Daniels away for nothing

Wow, a thread regarding the Browns that didn't turn into another inane discussion about Brady Quinn.  :o

  Here are the "late round picks" that are still with the team.

- S Yeremiah Bell (6th Round, 2003 NFL Draft)

- DE Rodrique Wright (7th Round, 2006 NFL Draft)

- FB Reagan Mauia (6th Round, 2007 NFL Draft)

- P Brandon Fields (7th Round, 2007 NFL Draft)

  The more time goes by the more I believe the new regime is more interested in putting player they acquired over players who were already in Miami.  Basically you had better be a star or they are looking to replace you with one of their guys.

So I expect no players from previous teams to be in Miami in a couple more years.

Even IF you ARE a star, they're STILL going to replace you. (Ronnie Brown)

Which I think is total BS.  Its like coming in your house spitting on the floor and saying "no this just won't do!" while he snaps his fingers and his minions come in and rip out all the carpets, drapes, and furniture before you even know what is going on.

Total BS.

No, I don't think it's total BS. The dolphins had the worst roster in pro football last year by far; many of their starters wouldn't have made the practice squad of the top teams. The roster needed a total overhaul, without sentiment and focusing only on getting the talent base improved.

The few decent guys from the old regime will be held over (Bell, Ginn, Satele, Crowder, Carey, etc). Ronnie isn't going anywhere now, but he's not healthy at this time. As fine and noble as JT and Zach were, they are not the future and young players need to be groomed to take their place on the defense.

The evil Patriots have been completely unsentimental with personnel moves in their run of championships, but look at their success. It may be cold hearted, but the reconstruction project of the dolphin roster means no one is safe, and anything goes that the braintrust thinks upgrades the talent base.

I don't think Parcells and Ireland really care where the players came from. They want good talented players who fit their system and schemes and can help the team win games. And the old regime left them with just a very few guys who fit that bill.

And I like what's been done. Merling, Langford, Thomas, and Long all look like stud lineman with bright futures ahead of them. Pennington is the best QB in a dolphin uniform in a decade, and Henne shows promise for down the road. No, I like what Parcells and Ireland are doing with an unsparing and gimlet eye, and the  team seems to be improving.

I am only worried that they will dump Ginn and Brown, both of whom are our best offensive players

Another one of Saban's boys out dad door  ;)

Let's not cry about Travis Daniels. He was Goodman's backup - and only because Lehan was injured. It always made sense to keep Nathan Jones, who's very effective on special teams and in nickel packages. That left Joey Thomas and Travis Daniels fighting for the last cornerback spot. Joey Thomas is a better special teams contributer, so I wouldn't have been surprised to see Daniels cut outright.

This was the depth chart at cb:

Will Alen
Andre Goodman
Travis Daniels
Nathan Jones
Michael Lehan
Joey Thomas
Chris Roberson

Pick 5 to keep... Allen and Goodman were the starters, Daniels and Thomas the backups - but only because Lehan was injured. As previously stated, Nathan Jones was pretty much a lock to make the final roster, leaving either Daniels or Thomas as the odd man out.

So we got a 7th round pick for a guy we were probably going to cut. I don't have a problem with that.

Exactly. I can't believe people are so upset about roster moves on a team that was the worst in football.

fyo, they're not really the "backups" per se because the #3 (and sometimes #4) corner is on the field for nickel and dime packages.  Its not like you have to wait for an injury for them to get burned by a slot receiver

  That is one sorry looking list of DB's.  I expect that most of these guys will be gone within the next two seasons.

Exactly my point from before. The team lost games last year not only because of inept coaching, but because every other team had better players. This year Parcells/Ireland were able to infuse the offensive and defensive lines with young talent, and stabilize the QB position. A lot remains to be done in the next year or two, and I suspect the defensive backfield will be a major focus of attention in the 2009 draft and free agency areas.

I realize that they see the field more than, say, a backup quarterback... (although plenty of backup running backs and tight ends get lots of playing time)... the point was that Daniels was 5th or 6th in a position where 5 are usually kept.

This wasn't some good player or "potentially" good player getting cut lose. This was bottom-of-the-barrel churning.

That shows a lot of maturity and class.

I always rooted for him because he always came off like that.  Bell is another that always seems appreciative of things.

Travis Daniels is a very good guy and a quality human being. Unfortunately, he isn't a very good or quality NFL cornerback. So it's off to Cleveland and I wish him well.