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Looks like I'll be watching the Texans......... :P   yuck.

  This is the game I will get to watch as well....hopefully Jim, Pittsburgh blows out Houston so they switch over to the Miami/New York game....wishful thinking ;)

Thank god my neighbor has NFL ticket ... cause I get Jags vs Titans.

From what I understand there is a confirmed stream(meaning you can watch in on your pc) for the dolphins game. I am not sure who is streaming it, so you may need software like tvants or etc to watch the game. I will not know where the stream is until almost an hour before game. For those who may be interested my rule is simple, you must be a member on this board with over 50 post then you can private message me and as soon as I get the info I will pass it on.
Who wants to watch patriots when you can watch Miami!

I am stuck watching the Pats... Man I hate living in Pats country Sept-Jan. 

Yeah it does kinda sux, Because when I moved from Miami to Daytona  Beach, All i get in this area is J-ville and Tampa games.    Pisses me off that I have to get the Ticket in order to see my team Play.

Well, I am getting Jets-Dolphins, I will be heading to the bar to see Pats-KC. 

The games havent yet announced which games we'll get locally. It doesnt matter. I'll be at a sports bar with NFL ticket, getting drunk, and eating hot wings.

I'll be getting the Patsies. Wish I could just head on down to the Quarter Deck to watch the Phins.

Seriously.  Why watch a game you don't want to when there are plenty of sports bars around?

I love Sunday Ticket  ;D

None of my buddies can sit and watch a football game. The only one who would probably do it is busy with his wife and two kids on Sundays. My only friend who is a Dolphins fan now lives in NYC. It's no fun going to a sports bar by yourself, especially in Boston during football season.

^ You can come to my house.  ;D

Before I had NFL Sunday ticket, I would go to a sports bar by myself, one of the biggest ones in the area, and I would almost always find a Dolfan or two to watch with.

I'll bring the chips. My girlfriend is working this weekend, so I can't go and watch with her. She's a rabid Patsies fan, so at least until January, I'm going to hate her stinking guts. But anyway, I'll see you @ kickoff. You're an hour behind EST, right?

That's right.  The game starts at noon here.  We have plenty of beer!  :)

Yay! I just sneaked by- the only coastal part of NC that gets the Fins! And I have no work!  ;D

I wouldnt be surpried if they moved it to the 4:15 game.

I will be at the beach house in Rocky Point, Mexico this weekend. I have DirectTV down there and I should be able to see the Phins game.  :)

Well according to that Map I'd be getting the K.C. NE game as always...Nope sorry..I've got NFL Sunday ticket....It's worth everypenny..the rest of Direct Tv I'm starting to wonder....

If I was the NFL commish..... I'd make DirecTV NFL Sunday Ticket available to all the major cable companies and Dish Network.  I would also include preseason games, and allow it to be shown in Mexico, Canada, and the Caribbean Islands.  You realize how much money it would make then?

You mean NFL Sunday Ticket.

I think you mean the NFL Sunday Ticket. And its value would diminish to the NFL if they made it available to everyone. The reason they got so much was because Direct TV was bidding against the cable companies for exclusive rights to the package.

Yep, that's exactly what I meant.  Fixed. 


No, I do not think it would.  Keep the price the same, but then make it available to cable and Dish Network subscribers, and you've got a financial windfall. 

That's exactly right,it's the same reason why,the networks bid on who gets to carry the games...Direct TV paid through the nose,to get and Keep the NFL Sunday ticket package....If all the Providers had it,you wouldn't be able to charge near as much...

The thought of Tommy As Commissioner  of the NFL makes me want to watch Male synchronized Swimming...

Would watching Male Synchronized Swimming get you excited?   :D

No I get that gag reflex in the back of my throat,and I lose my appitite for days....

Okay, here ya go:  link (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4122944961711350389&ei=FXi_SPCpGpSIrgOllvX2CA&q=martin+short+synchronized+swimming).

If they made it available to everyone, they would get less money per carrier, but they'd be getting it from multiple carriers instead of just one, which would more than make up for it.

If licensing the broadcast rights to a single provider is really more lucrative than offering it to multiple providers, why isn't the NFL Network a single-provider option, too?

You're killing me!  (http://209.85.117.199/1250/23/0/e792//e792.gif)

This is exactly what I'm talking about.  There are a ton of football fans out there who would love to have NFL Sunday Ticket, but are at the mercy of their cable company because they live in condos and can't have satellite dishes.  All major cable carriers offer other premium sports packages such as NBA Courtside, MLB Extra Innings, and ESPN College GamePlan.  Why does the NFL have to be different??

Money! why else?

And that's where your assumptions are wrong...The NFL network was offered to the big Cable companies,they wanted to charge extra for it,and make it a premium channel,and complained about the Price.They said it was too expensive,to put on Basic Cable it would raise the rates too much....

The NFL sunday ticket would lose value,By your a standard..Why doesn't PBS carry NFL games? TBS? TNT? The parent Companies Pay through the nose to get it for Fox,CBS NBC,and ESPN....All those other packages extra packages are less...MLB extra innings Less than $200,College Gameplan $129,NBA League Pass $169,Hockey package about $160....NFL Sunday ticket I think I paid $249? I got some loyalty discount thing) Hmm I wonder why? Ohh yeah they're value is lower You can get them through the Cable company...Interesting there are a bunch of canadian Cable companies that get NFL sunday ticket....Plus the Caymans,Bahamas,Mexico,and Bermuda...

http://www.nfl.com/promotions/directv/sundayticket (http://www.nfl.com/promotions/directv/sundayticket)

Ok now you're going to claim,well then it's cheaper,and available to more households,and more people could afford to buy it....It cheapens it...It's now nearly in demand....The Supply went way up the price went down...

The people in the Condo's can cry me a river....

Great Clip Run, I remember seeing that on SNL when it was first run...I think they came up wityh that back in their SC.T.V. days...Thanks for the laugh...

OK, but if you paid $249 for NFL Sunday Ticket and $129 for ESPN College Gameplan..... imagine if you dropped the price of NFL Sunday Ticket to $129, but made it available to Dish Network and major cable companies..... so many more people would be able to afford it and they would buy it.  That would more than make up for the lowering of the price of NFL Sunday Ticket. 

Wow, Tommy do you EVER read ANYTHING posted on the board? or Just babble shit ?


It's the Same reason why reason,why I don't fork over Money for the MLB package..I'm a Cubs Fan...I get 71 (games) through WGN,and ESPN,TBS will add ten the Local station on Fox will throw in another 5 or so...Then when they Play the Cardinals Fox sports Midwest will show me another 6 to 8..I get to see about 100 games.Why should I pay extra fro something I'm already paying for? The MLB package has little value to me......Without NFL sunday ticket..I get to see maybe 1 or 2 Dolphins Games a year....NFL Sundayticket Has Value...It's worth more..Simple economics 101...


Modified to Add...(I just got a reminder of this) The NFL Get's it money from the NFL sunday ticket from one Company Direct T.V....If they offer it to Cable,they have to Negotiate with each and every little Cable company to get their money...

For those outside North America, the NFL offer a new "streaming HD" package for $240. You get every single game and access to all of them at any time during the season (DVR-style). There's a non-HD version available through Yahoo! for $210 with some additional limitations (no DVR-style control when watching a game and only 48 hours access to games played).

There you go again with the unprovoked personal attacks.  Say hi to your Uncle Dad for me. 

Tommy-
If you feel you are being attacked personally, please let a moderator know, don't respond with another personal attack.

If you showed up at my door in Dolphins gear, I would not slam it in your face.  Mr StL probably wouldn't be happy with more Dolfans in his house, though.  ;D

Cable companies have been trying for years to get in on the Sunday ticket deal.
I remember when I first dropped cable for Direct TV the cable company would call and offer me deals, then even said they believe they will get the Sunday ticket also.
But here we are eight years later and Direct TV still owns all the rights to the Sunday Ticket. It's called a monopoly my friends, the NFL can and does control who can see what game. I actually believe Tommy is onto something, but what if congress stepped in(within their legal rights)and forced the strangle hold the NFL has on distributing games. What if cable companies would carry the games on ppv?
What if you could chose to watch your team for like $10 per game ? I too would like to see the Sunday ticket or ppv more available .
Negotiations could be simple the NFL gets a percentage on sales that each cable company distributes on ppv.

You really think ppv would only be like $10 a game?  A local college game is $30.  I think I would end up paying more that way then I do on Sunday Ticket.  Besides, with all the games available, you can always find an exciting one to watch.

I just go to a sports bar when the phins games aren't on...even though it's kindof overwhelming watching all the games at once.

Are you telling me they charge $30 for one game played on PPV?
I would say that's way too much to pay for one college game.

Yes, they are charging $30 for one college game.  It is way too much, which is why I will not be watching it.  If people don't pay for it, they will go back to regular tv.

Yep, that's how much it is.  People who have DirecTV but don't have NFL Sunday Ticket pay like $39.99 per game.  They can order it right off their TV set. 

And you're right Simeon.  Congress could, and should step in and break all TV monopolies.  That way someone who lives in a certain area could have a choice of cable companies. 

Tommy- you misunderstood STL. You can't buy NFL games on a PPV basis. She was talking about college games.

If you have DirecTV, you can. 

I have never heard of that either Tommy. I don't think DirecTV offers individual games.

Actually I've heard of it,but it was only like the last 4 or 6 weeks of the season...I've never seen it offered like week one of the NFL season...

I never heard of someone actually doing it,I'venn it advertised real late in the season....Then they run the NFL sunday ticket half season special..

I've actually seen friends do it on two different occasions... one in 2005 and one in 2006.  Although in both instances, the games were late in the season. 

I have Direct TV, and I've never seen that.

^ me neither

I think Tommy may be thinking of what Lil B mentioned- the specials they offer towards the end of the season. They usually have some sort of special deal where you can get the last 5 weeks of the season. The catch is to get people so hooked they absolutely have to have Sunday ticket the following season. I've had Sunday Ticket for about 7 seasons now, and I can't imagine life without it.

FYI- I just checked all over Direct TV's website, and no where do they make any mention of being able to get individual NFL games.

I've often said that if they had an "NFL Team Ticket", I'd buy that. A little bit less money, but all you get are the games for one specific team. The only reason I could see them not doing this is because of games on local FOX and CBS and the Sunday, Monday, and Thursday night games. If your team happens to be a popular team, and has a lot of prime time games, or is shown on the local channels alot (We tend to get a lot of Steelers games, even though they are 6 hours away from here), I could see some people wanting a discounted rate, since they'd be able to see certain games regardless of having the "Team Ticket".

^^^ I am sure they have entertained that.  But it would have to be lower.  I have no idea what the real numbers are....

But lets say the full package is $100 right now.

And they offer a $40 one team package. 

Now you have two questions.. 1) how many new subscribers would you get at $40 and 2)  how many that currently pay $100 would switch from the $100 package to the $40 package. 

My guess is they would have considerably more downgrades than new customers. 

Yes, they'd have downgrades. But due to the popularity of fantasy football, they would have a lot of people staying on the package they currently have.

BTW- Sunday Ticket is much more than $100.

No question lot of folks would stick with the full package.  But would enough new people buy the lower package to more than off set the downgrades, if it was just a wash why bother, it would have to be enough to make them more money than they make now.  And I doubt that would happen. 

Glad to hear it is more than $100, that justifies my not buying.  I figure I need to go to the bar to watch about 7-10 games a year.  My bar tab runs less than $15  each time and I would have about $5 worth of beer and junk food if I stayed home to watch the game.   So bar is still the economically most viable option. 

well, I'm not one of the lucky ones....I gotta watch the Shitzburg Stillers against the Houston Texas-Hold-Ems

Take the Stillers -6.5...easy money

Agreed.  I figure I watch 13-15 games at around $10 each.

It's not the price of Sunday Ticket that keeps me away though.  It's having to switch over to Dish Network. 

I'm am paying $5 (?) a month extra for the NFL Channel though (bastards!).  Does that come free with Dish Network or Sunday Ticket?

The Sunday Ticket is not on Dish Network, its on Direct TV. And I think the NFL Network is part of the standard programming package (I have an upgraded package).

Here's a question though- wouldn't you rather sit at home and watch the games in the comfort of your own home? People say "I only spend X Amount at a bar to watch the game so its cheaper for me than getting Sunday Ticket". I don't care if the bar lets me sit there all day for $1, I'd still rather sit in my own living room, or lay in my own bed and watch the games.

I'd rather go to a bar and scream and holler with other fans.  That's just me. 

Yes it is fun to watch the game with other fans, but I have two problems here.
1. I live in Maine and going to a bar and running into other dolfans would be rare.
2.I don't drink alcohol, and most likely feel out of place, even though I could do it.

Agreed there.  You have to love beer and bar food.... it's also easier to run into other Dolfans when you live in Florida.

Seems to me we need to make a Northern New England Subgroup of TDMMC.  I am in the Seacoast NH and there is another Mainer somewhere here.   ;D

You, simeon and raptor all live in Maine.  Stinkfish and Dolphins4life live in or near Boston.  That's a good start right there.

Just checked the TV listings, and guess what? We get the Jets/Phins game locally.

I got a jones in my bones for some REAL Dolphins football.  Tomorrow can't get here fast enough. 

I think it's really intresting to see a big patch of one color,then a Little sliver of another somewhere else....I think it would be odd, to live across the street from someone who's getting a different game than I am...

Hey Budda we aren't far apart I am about a 35 minute drive to Portsmouth.

I'm sure it was just an oversight, but shouldn't MaineDolFan be included in the "lives in Maine" group? ;)

Oops.  Yep, it was an oversight.  So now you've got Maine, Raptor, Bubba, Simeon, Stinkfish, and Dolphins4life.  That's your New England TDMMC Group.  If I left out any others, let me know now. 

As for the Central FL TDMMC Group, we've got Doctor D, Phishfan, CF, Sciotto, DZA, Dolfan619, BingeBag, JoblessJayFiedler, USO Orlando, and myself.   Hope I didn't miss anyone there. 

Is anyone in Tennessee? I'm moving to Chattanooga next month.

Landlocked and Alk3hol if I'm not mistaken.