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Title: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: yuppi on September 07, 2008, 04:05:32 pm
DISGUSTING
nothing to build on

we lost all hope


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Ghost350z on September 07, 2008, 04:12:02 pm
Dude are you out of your mind? Get a grip.

Its the first game of the season.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: simeon on September 07, 2008, 04:14:23 pm
DISGUSTING
nothing to build on

we lost all hope
Did we watch the same game ? Miami had a chance to win this game. We need to play all four quarters like we played the fourth in this game. The play calling needs to better from Chad and stop burning time outs. Jake Long had a really rough day, he struggled and committed some dumb penalties. Ted Ginn barely showed up to play. At least out tight ends want to play. There is alot to build on here.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Kirbyjr on September 07, 2008, 04:18:49 pm
There is alot to build on.  The O-line still needs work, but the D-line/linebackers looked pretty good.  Special teams looks improved also, but still needs improvment.  I dont think any of the recievers showed up today, like was said earlier thank God for the TEs.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Defense54 on September 07, 2008, 04:20:30 pm
Yuppi must be disguised as a Dolphin fan because I'm alright with the game. Ginn needs a kick in the ass and I think alot of the Rookie mistakes need to get worked on.......but all in all it was pretty successful day to build upon.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: stinkfish on September 07, 2008, 04:22:42 pm
The bottom line is that they lost.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: yuppi on September 07, 2008, 04:30:09 pm
yeah we got humilated in a game we should of won by amillion

that jets defense is awful
watch the season unfold they'll only get worse


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Tenshot13 on September 07, 2008, 05:17:08 pm
^ are you serious?  Ya we had some bone head plays, and yes they did win...is it just me or did we play progressively better as the game went on?  With guys like Kendell Langford, Joey Porter getting back to form, and Channing Crowder with some key tackles, I'd say we have something to build on.  I was just as disappointed as you but at least I can see the difference between this years team and last years team...plus we do play the Jets again this year...and we do play Arizona next week...don't lose hope yet.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Dphins4me on September 07, 2008, 05:24:30 pm
  As with last year.  Some Miami fans find out that the regular season is far removed from the pre-season.

Miami is a young team & made some young mistakes.  20-14 is not as bad as the 31-7 Fox predicted


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: yuppi on September 07, 2008, 05:34:50 pm
are you kidding me a loss is a loss
whether we lose by a hundred or by one


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: afphinfan on September 07, 2008, 05:44:47 pm
One thing for sure is that the defense was worked early on ... jets o-line must be much improved. We gave up some big plays to one of the greatest QBs ever so that is just going to happen; but you'll also notice that their receivers actually can catch the ball.

I also don't think we can win many games by throwing as much as we did ... should have run the ball more but hopefully we will work on that as season goes on. The freaking Jets are better than I want to give them credit for, and if Brady is out for any length of time this year they might get a shot at the East. The Bills also put it on Seattle so they might be tough this year as well.

We all knew this year would be tough with many new players, new system, new coach, etc. The important thing is to build upon things each week, correct mistakes, and get units to gel ... then see what next year's draft brings us. If we can do that for a few years (with the same coaches) then we will be on track ... but turnover will kill us.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: StL FinFan on September 07, 2008, 05:58:02 pm
It's not as humiliating as losing say ... 38-3.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Thundergod on September 07, 2008, 06:00:52 pm
Humiliating? Nah. Surprising? Nope.

We need to play all four quarters like we played the fourth in this game. The play calling needs to better from Chad and stop burning time outs.

True. Buuut, you have to keep in mind that the Jets in quarters 1-3 were gonna make C.P beat them with his arm while they concentrated on stopping the run and keeping the pressure on. In the 4th they were playing the receivers alot and laid off the pressure when they had a 20-7 lead.

Ted Ginn barely showed up to play. At least out tight ends want to play.

I don't see all this Ginn bashing. Blame it on the O-Line or whatever, but when noodle arm dumps it 5-10 yds. into the middle every 2 seconds, and at times into coverage, how can you blame the WR going long?



Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on September 07, 2008, 06:05:30 pm
I don't see all this Ginn bashing. Blame it on the O-Line or whatever, but when noodle arm dumps it 5-10 yds. into the middle every 2 seconds, and at times into coverage, how can you blame the WR going long?



I'm glad someone else said what I was thinking. People say the WR's didn't show up. Umm, did the ball get thrown to them? Ginn had a huge catch on 4th and 7. And Simms even said he was behind the defense on the botched flea flicker. Open your eyes people and stop hating for the sack of hating.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on September 07, 2008, 06:24:21 pm
I'm glad someone else said what I was thinking. People say the WR's didn't show up. Umm, did the ball get thrown to them? Ginn had a huge catch on 4th and 7. And Simms even said he was behind the defense on the botched flea flicker. Open your eyes people and stop hating for the sack of hating.

I stop hating when they stop losing.  After suffering through Wanny and Scam Cameron, I have zero patience.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Chyloe on September 07, 2008, 06:44:44 pm
Just sucks loosing a Home Game!!!
Being a real fan and go from Los Angeles to Miami to see them loose against the stinking Jets,they were more jets fans then Phins fans in the stadium!! thats pathetic!!so i'm pissed at the fact that we have the worst fan base in the whole nfl!! We HAVE a Rookie team and they need our support!!and that starts by going to games...



Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: landlocked on September 07, 2008, 07:28:20 pm
Wow!You went all the day from L.A. to Miami just to watch the game?You ARE a fan!!!


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: CF DolFan on September 07, 2008, 07:47:55 pm
I stop hating when they stop losing.  After suffering through Wanny and Scam Cameron, I have zero patience.

Then where is all the Parcells bashing? Why stop the trend now?  ;) ;D

Isn't this why a lot of us thought playing the whole experienced veteran QB was a waste anyway.  We're a young team that needs a lot of work and paying some veteran while allowing our young QBs to sit isn't really going to change anything. We should be playing Beck and then bing in Henne down the road. Honestly ... Penny is wasting our time and it's just messing with some of you guys' expectations.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Phishfan on September 07, 2008, 08:03:01 pm
Threads like this piss me off and the only reason I am posting is to say they piss me off. Come with something constructive. To say there is nothing to build on after this game is asinine and moronic. The only way there is nothing to build on is to win the Super Bowl with a shut out.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Defense54 on September 07, 2008, 08:08:11 pm
 
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I don't see all this Ginn bashing. Blame it on the O-Line or whatever, but when noodle arm dumps it 5-10 yds. into the middle every 2 seconds, and at times into coverage, how can you blame the WR going long?

What about all those let the ball bounce for no return kickoffs ? He was really useless today.
 


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Dphins4me on September 07, 2008, 08:15:10 pm

What about all those let the ball bounce for no return kickoffs ? He was really useless today.
 
Weren't those short line drive type punts?    Can't get up to catch those.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Defense54 on September 07, 2008, 08:16:37 pm
Weren't those short line drive type punts?    Can't get up to catch those.

Everyone? By the third quarter you think he would adapt a little and TRY to run one in...........


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Dave Gray on September 07, 2008, 08:59:47 pm
Weren't those short line drive type punts?    Can't get up to catch those.

Absolutely not.  One was especially fieldable, with running room ahead, and blockers.  The decision not to field it probably cost us 25 yards in field position.  Another one was a bit closer, but even could've been caught, but at the very least fielded on a bounce to prevent it from rolling.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: USO-ORLANDO on September 07, 2008, 09:29:28 pm
I guess I gotta be nice!!


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on September 07, 2008, 09:31:21 pm
Then where is all the Parcells bashing? Why stop the trend now?  ;) ;D

Damnit!!!!  Parcells completely tears down this team and promises great things, but even with a new coach and new players, we're still getting the same crappy results!!!!  He needs to be fired!!!!


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: ethurst2 on September 07, 2008, 09:59:56 pm
America...land of the instant results.

I don't see a problem with today's game. The Dolphins are really a team that's rebuilding but they DID NOT QUIT! 13 seconds and you still have the chance to win a game if you make a play is not bad for a rebuilding team. They will win those share of games once they get experienced.

Last year, at halftime, the score would have been 24-0 en-route to a trashing. They gave the Jets all they could handle. Yes, they blew some plays but you won't see much of that in the coming weeks.

As for the offense, Ted Ginn Jr. is getting blamed for not getting open. Look, he's the only deep threat the Dolphins have. All they have to do is bracket Ginn and that takes away the outside receivers. The rest of the receivers either have pedestrian speed (Camarillo, Hagan, Wilford) or are raw (Bess, Armstrong). Miami doesn't have the receivers to stretch the field. So teams are going to stack the box and dare C.P. to throw the ball down the field which he could do if he had more time.

On the flea-flicker that Ricky had to keep for a yard loss, Camarillo was WIDE OPEN! There wasn't a guy within seven yards of him. Kris Jenkins collapsed the play so Ricky had to keep the ball and couldn't flip it back to C.P.

Get use to Ricky and Ronnie fighting 8 man fronts. Miami is running a conventional-conservative offense like they do in Dallas. The only difference is that Dallas has more talent at the receiver spot (Terrell Owens) running back (Marion Barber) and tight end spot (Jason Witten).

And congrats to Anthony Fasano who had a great day catching the ball. At least the Dolphins have rediscovered that it's okay for a tight end to run down the middle of the field and catch some balls.

The defense is going to be okay and it's evident that Crowder is no Zach Thomas. The DB's took some bad angles and made bad decisions but hey, this should have been expected.

This is why coaches die in Miami. Miami fans are spoiled because of the success that the franchise had so early in it's inception into the NFL. Jimmy tried to rebuild with an old quarterback (didn't work). Wannstedt bowed down and traded away draft picks to win instantly (didn't work). Nick Saban wanted to keep an aging core of players and win instantly (didn't work). Cameron and Mueller had the right idea as far as injecting youth but Cameron wasn't a leader of men (didn't work).

We're going to have to REBUILD. So there's no use in getting mad. I can count you the Dolphins rebuilding years and there haven't been many...

1966 - First season
1977 - Shula coming off of a 6-8 record
1980
1996 - Jimmy turning over 85% of the roster

3 rebuilding years in 43 years? Now compare that to other teams in the AFC East (Patriots, Jets, Bills and you can throw the old Baltimore/Indy Colts teams in there).

So I don't know what the screaming is about. We might win six games but as long as you see that Miami is very limited as far as depth, then you would have a different view.

I'm not a big Parcells fan but they at least deserve a couple of seasons without being judged on one game.



Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Jim Gray on September 07, 2008, 10:03:59 pm
Nic
I guess I gotta be nice!!

^^^^(I deleted one of USO's posts)

I figured I would shut the door on the shitfest of name calling your post was going to start.  Let's cut the new guys some slack until they get a feel for the board.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: USO-ORLANDO on September 07, 2008, 10:09:32 pm
Nic
^^^^(I deleted one of USO's posts)

I figured I would shut the door on the shitfest of name calling your post was going to start.  Let's cut the new guys some slack until they get a feel for the board.

Thats cool I called Philly thought it was him!!My bad...... :'(  Sorry!


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 07, 2008, 10:46:48 pm
I don't see a problem with today's game. The Dolphins are really a team that's rebuilding but they DID NOT QUIT! 13 seconds and you still have the chance to win a game if you make a play is not bad for a rebuilding team. They will win those share of games once they get experienced.

Last year, at halftime, the score would have been 24-0 en-route to a trashing. They gave the Jets all they could handle. Yes, they blew some plays but you won't see much of that in the coming weeks.
Um, this game looked exactly like any number of games from the the first half of last season.  We were in the game until the end, but did just enough to lose.

All that talk about a "new culture of accountability" doesn't seem to mean much now.  The sloppy play and excessive penalties were just as bad, if not worse, than the Cameron era.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: jtex316 on September 07, 2008, 10:51:31 pm
Yeah, send Sporano his walking papers!

Any of you idiots that really thought that this season was going to be some kind of 9-7 or 10-6 type season, you need serious medical rehabilitation. This entire season will be much like this, with incremental improvements along the way. This is a REBUILDING year, and you were still 1 pass away from winning the game despite all of the nonsense.

The only nonsense is this post, and this disdain for this loss, as if you somehow expected to flip over an entire coaching staff and personnel staff and expect to win anything of signifigance in season 1.

Morons.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on September 07, 2008, 10:53:06 pm
The sloppy play and excessive penalties were just as bad, if not worse, than the Cameron era.

I'd say they are worse, since we were fed the previously mentioned line about accountability, and everyone was saying Sparano's hard line approach would translate into less mistakes.

However, just like last year, I am not jumping the gun and am willing to give the team time. There's a reason I said only 3 wins in the prediction thread  ;)


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: JVides on September 07, 2008, 10:53:43 pm
I stop hating when they stop losing.  After suffering through Wanny and Scam Cameron, I have zero patience.

Uh oh, I see the Fire Tony Sparano call warming up...

I saw the Dolphins fielding a team that's big and nasty on both lines.  If they get those two sides humming this season and that's all, I'll be happy.  Spend next offseason rounding out the skill positions, and Miami will be set.  There's nothing surprising about losing to Brett Favre.

And one last thing:  If you're surprised by Miami's loss, take a gander at the season projections for this team that were made by the people on this board.  You'll see a lot of 6-10, 7-9, 8-8.  You EXPECT a losing season, don't act surprised that you're GETTING one!


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 08, 2008, 12:11:06 am
I'm not saying Sparano should be fired, or anything of the sort.

But for all that talk of "Cameron ran such an undisciplined organization," we certainly didn't look any more disciplined out there, did we?


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Tenshot13 on September 08, 2008, 12:13:03 am
^difference is we had some veterans last year while this year is a youth movement...they're expected do some bone-headed things.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Sunstroke on September 08, 2008, 01:43:36 pm
However, just like last year, I am not jumping the gun and am willing to give the team time.

Amen...

We should be playing Beck and then bing in Henne down the road. Honestly ... Penny is wasting our time and it's just messing with some of you guys' expectations.

Beck? Beck? I seem to vaguely remember him. Four hooves, stared into headlights a lot? I thought he got run over or something...



Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on September 08, 2008, 01:47:07 pm
I don't see a problem with today's game.

I do.  They lost. 


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: JVides on September 08, 2008, 02:41:37 pm
I do.  They lost. 

You predicted 8 wins this year.  If they win next week, guess what?  You're an eighth of the way to being right.


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: AprFools_Phins on September 08, 2008, 02:55:41 pm
Ok i would not say humiliating. I mean we lost what 94% of the time last year, and we were no-where near the mess we were last year. So how can we be humiliated?


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: run_to_win on September 08, 2008, 04:28:40 pm
I wonder if the author knows what "humiliating" actually means. 

Anyone remember Dan Marino's last game? 


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: Tenshot13 on September 08, 2008, 06:47:05 pm
^ :-[     :'(


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: DZA on September 09, 2008, 02:50:23 am
Some of you here act like Miami is supposed to be Elite in one game.  Hey at least the Fins' for once put up touchdowns instead of  meaningless filed goals.  I was disappointed that they could not establish the Run and the passing game blew donkey balls. While there are plenty of negative thing to say about Penny,  Ginn, the secondary;  I saw quite a bit improvement from the crap squad last season.   

Ya it sux they lost and made Farve loveable,  Move On....  Sh ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: HUMILIATING LOSS
Post by: yuppi on September 10, 2008, 12:59:32 pm
as a fan i felt like roadkill