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Ted Ginn Jr.

He's a bust and he will not finish this season as a Dolphin

The punter!

Ginn. If you're going to commit offensive holding to prevent the D from intercepting so that you can keep your team alive for one more play, then keep the D from making the pic.

Ginn.  What the hell was he doing on the punt returns?

And that last play was just indefensibly dumb.

  Tedd Ginn JR!!!!! >:(

Andre Goodman...How about biting on the playfake on the 50+ toucjdown,then Pass interference call on another deep pass....

Pennington was getting my game ball until that last pass to end it...do you really not have the arm strength to thrown it out of the back of the endzone...

SHAME OF THE GAME FOR YOU CHAD!

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But I'm with B.

Goodman.

ted ginn, and his family...

Chad Pen gets the shame,  Glad you waited til the 4th quarter to put together  a decent scoring drive.

Fields sucked all day long.

Andre Goodman was getting burned all day.

Chad Henne.... he didn't do crap all game.  I can't believe the Dolphins wasted a pick on that bum. 

Shame of the Game goes to secondary coach Todd Bowles.  The defensive backs got picked on by Favre all day.  That one duck he threw up resulting in a Jets TD on 4th and 13 really got my goat!!!

Add to the fact that they did nothing to address the secondary needs in the past two drafts!!!!

Good point! Now that you mention it, Jake Long should get the Shame of the Game. Everyone kept hyping how he only had one penalty his entire senior year, and he had two today. Add to that the fact that Matt Ryan, drafted two picks after him, threw a 60 yard TD on his first NFL pass. Long didn't do enough to help the team win  ;)



For those ready to start arguing with me, this post was meant tongue in cheek!

Ted Ginn or Brandon Fields. Havent made up my mind yet.

In all seriousness, I think that Jake Long could be considered for SOTG.  He did have two drive-ending penalties -- a holding and a tripping, both 10 yard calls that negated a first down.

But, I think my shame goes to Ted Ginn as well.  He shit the bed on two punt returns that he let bounce, and had (I think) only 2 receptions for minimal yardage.

I don't understand the Ginn pick..He's only limited to how many times the QB throws him the ball...The flea flicker he was open,but Ricky ate it....

I mean if I was going to go upon starter and minimal Impact How about Ricky Williams? 10 carries 24 yards? 4 receptions for 15 yards..yeah 1 was really nice on the final drive....But also Coughed up the ball twice..once fumbling out of bounce,and once at the end of the half...

Fields.  He cost Miami field position in a game lost by 6.  The secondary (toasty!), the wideouts (were they playing?) and the D-line (pushed around in the running game) all earned consideration.

Ted Ginn...zero production from the player we need to get a lot more out of if this passing game is going to do anything.

I love Jake Long, but Dave's right...he played like a rook out there, and he needs to vet up quick. He gets the dishonorable mention.

My choice for Ginn was more for his lack of production returning punts.  He let two balls bounce in front of him, where he had running lanes and blockers, at a time in the game where we needed field position.

And it's just the cherry on top that he's our #1 receiver, with 10 yards of offense.

I can see bashing Ginn for the punt returns, but blaming him for anything receiving wise means you don't understand the game IMO. He looked open all day, but Pennington couldn't get him the ball in a catchable position. That isn't his fault. Get real guys.

Wow. Someone who undertsands the WR position doesn't control the ball!

OK, I can see blaming Ginn for the punt returns. He let a ball bounce right in front of him, instead of moving up a few feet, catching the ball and running. But to say "he only had 2 catches" is kind of silly. You may as well say "Ernest Wilford deserves it because he had zero catches, I don't care if he was inactive."
Now, if Pennington threw to him 13 times and he only had 2 catches, you have a valid point. But again, like I said in another thread, he came up with a huge catch on 4th and 7 when the Fins were driving.

But otherwise- You can't catch what doesn't get thrown your way!

I agree 100% above^^^ . Our Special Teams was Yellow bus special, and a special mention for #1 Draft Choice Long. I know it was mostly Rookie Mistakes but it cost us on penalties.

What has that to do with his lack of any punt returns? I though he was playing left field for the Marlins and trying to catch everything on a bounce.......... ::)

Did you read my comment, or just glimpse at it? Did you see I was also commenting on someone else's post? Phishfan said he can see giving it to Ginn for his special teams play, but not for his WR play. I was agreeing with him!

 Early in the game, Ginn ran a terrible route where Pennigton almost got picked off....Chad looked at Ginn like WTF are you doing.... Phil Simms even commented about Pennington having to adjust to the young and inexpereinced receivers of Miami running bad routes and making mistakes....after that play, Chad seemed to lose some confidence in Ginn....he is SUPPOSE to be Miami's #1 WR, 2 catches for 17 yards.....Also, he made a horrible effort on the last play of the game....AT least, knock it the fuck down!!!!

I thought Pretty much Ass raping the DB as he was trying to deflect the ball,and getting the Pass interference call....was a pretty good attempt at keeping the DB from Intercepting the ball.... ::)

Seriously. He was all over the guy and was unsuccessful. He wouldn't have had to be up his ass (thanks for the mental picture B) if Pennington had thrown the ball differently. People seem to forget it was a horrible pass that caused Ginn to play DB.

I would love to know when this "bad route" by Ginn happened early in the game. He was only thrown to twice in the first quarter, one a deep play that Pennington messed up and a third down play on the same drive that Penning ton underthrew.

The int at the end shouldn't be considered the fault of Pennington or Ginn.  It was a desperation play because they were out of time.  Ginn did his best to wrap the guy up and Pennington had to throw the ball somewhere.   You eventually had to go "all in".  The mistakes were made well before that play.

Ginn ran a post pattern on the first or second drive and instead of cutting under the corner he went over the top of him...the CB should have had an INT

  Thanks Tenshot13.....I'm glad to know some of us are paying attention to the games before we make comments about others comments!!! ;)  That was an absolutely HORRIBLE route run by Tedd Ginn, and it almost cost Miami an INT.

  Ginn played bad on offense AND special teams, that is why he is my Shame of the Game!!

Anyone who gives the shame to anyone other than a DB is delusional.

I just can't decide between Chris Crocker, Andre Goodman, or Renaldo Hill.

I'm going with Goodman.  He's a liability and he sucks.  I think Crocker is a terrible safety and Hill broke off his coverage and let the Jets' WR catch a jump ball at the goal line on 4th and 13.  Who does that?

Andre Goodman sucks, and our secondary (not including Will Allen) is pathetic.

I figured there'd be a serious dedicated "we should have drafted Matt Ryan" thread within a half hour of his first pass.

Jake Long - personally derailed two drives.  Thanks, Jake.

^^ I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the importance of that.

I noticed it as well. Remember, I made the initial joke about it. The only reason I didn't pick him is because I'm a realist and it was his first ever NFL start. I expect a few rookie errors. I don't want to sound like other people calling for a rookie to get cut because he didn't give instant gratification.

A lot of things went wrong in this game.  

1:  Special teams gave the Jets the ball, on average, at the 43.  I think Matt Cassell could direct a couple scoring drives from mid field when given the ball there four times.  

2:  The routes that WRs were running were brutal.  What professional WR runs a route and allows the defender to get between him and the ball?  Ginn did that over and over.

3:  I thought Pennington looked sharp but you could tell the inconsistent route running got to him, his passes were about ankle height because he was afraid of making a mistake.

4:  The schemes, defensively, were bad on two of the scores.  Brian can complain about the db's all he likes, am I the only one that noticed that our defensive coordinator had a cover-1 called on that long touchdown pass?  It was, what?  3rd and a mile and we're running a cover-1 with (at the time) inconsistant pass rushing?  Horrible call, there should have been more help on that play.

But the kicker of them all was Jake 'I'm Rich' Long screwing two effective drives with bone headed calls.  Sticking out his leg and tripping someone (I think people in the upper deck could see him do that) and getting his lunch handed to him and having to hold so Chad didn't get killed - two holding calls killed two drives.  That's not to mention two of the sacks he allowed when he was completed schooled and allowed Pennington to get drilled on the blindside twice on 2nd and shorts in two different drives.

Long killed this team more than the other errors.  SOG goes to Jake.

Cam Cameron and Hudson Houck get the SOTG this game. What the hell were they thinking sending Chris Chambers out of the game and having Trent Green hand it off to Lorenzo Booker on 4th and 9 from your own 21 yard line? Cameron should be given his walking papers immediately!!!

Oh wait, that was last season :)

This season, Ted Ginn Jr. for being "Mr. Invisible". When you're the #1 WR on the team, 10 yards will get you the SOTG every time. And yes, I understand the game - QBs aren't going to always throw it to you if you can't get open, route or no route.

During the game it was a toss up between Ginn, Pennington, Punter ( he deserves no name ), 1st overall Long, and Goodman.  

Then by process of elimination, I came to Ginn and Goodman for already mentioned reasons.  A very difficult choice to make as both were not only useless but costly to the team.  In the end, it's Ginn.  Altough I do have to say how shitty Goodman is.  It's beyond me how that douche is still playing for us.  I hated him 2 years ago, I hate him now.  

Ginn, YOU SUCK!  On that last play, on that last drive which was going to inject a new feeling of revival to our team you got boxed out like a 3 year old girl midget.  This clown looked totally helpless!  F-YOU Ginn.  Way to hustle, you bitch.

I mentioned it as well.............as yes, for a #1 overall draftpick I expect more then what we recived yesterday. Tell me he is being too agressive or maybe he stepped too quick. Thats a Rookie Mistake. He was plain getting BEAT.  We had No run game to speak off becuase the blocking sucked like a crack whore with the Navy in town. I expect Orlando Pace blocking from  O lineman #1 overall draft pick. They need to start making signing bonuses conditional on ones performance.  :P

I have three shame of the game awards to hand out.
1.Ted Ginn Jr- Stunk up the field and was a non factor all game long, at least his uniform was clean.
2.Jake Long- The guy was looked like a burnt piece of toast, he tripped and held people because they were blowing by him.
3.Carpenter- The kid was suppose to have a strong leg, but didn't come close to a touch back. He kicked one ball out of bounds giving the jets great field position. I mean how big is a field is that hard to keep it in bounds ?

Ginn needs to spend some time in the weight room.  I don't care how fast he supposedly is, in the NFL you need to use some musle at every position, he looked like a little girl trying to get her ball away from the playground bully.

Carpenter had a touchback that went about half-way into the endzone.

I just wanted to say...I've now watched the game 3 times,(NFL has it on NFL replay this week, You can watch it again 1 pm Est,12 C time) I also watched the shortcuts version on the free preview of Superfan.I mwatched
Jake long on offense,and Channing crowder on defense...

I have to say I was wrong,Frimp was right, Crowder was playing better than I thought....

Jake long did a pretty good job,on both of "His Penalties" I wonder if any of you just happened to notice,that our Left Guard Justin Smiley was beat badly to the Inside.Leaving the End/LB a nice big whol to run through....For his first NFL game....I was surprised to see Vernon Carey,and Samson Satele look so bad,getting beat quite abit...

BTW, Goodman got fucking hosed on that PI call.

The refs always seem to screw us and I'm getting sick of it

I've said this before and I'll say it again.  Players need to stand up for their team and punch the officials in the face.  If the officials fear retaliation by players if they make a bad call, they won't make a bad call.

I've said this before and I'll say it again - this is the most asinine comment I've ever read on this board.   I'll ask the same question I asked you when you made this statement before - do you really think having officials fear physical attack from the players would lead to better officiating?

Tommy what player in their right mind would jeopardize their future in the league, and it would most likely lead to law suits and jail time.
This isn't barbaric like Eurpoean soccer.

Damn right I do. 


One player it would jeopardize their future.  But when other players start standing up for themelves and their teammates.... let's just say you can't suspend everyone. 

It's a Game Tommy.... ::)  You're an idiot...

A player can't physically attack a ref. because said player thinks that ref. made a bad call, just like it's a bad idea to land a hay maker on a cop for giving you a ticket that you don't think you deserve.

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Actually, maybe I should have tried that when I got my ticket

Try it next time you get pulled over and let us know how that works out for you.

Say hi to your Uncle Dad for me.

 ::)  Are you still in 3rd grade there Tommy....I just said what everyone was thinking....

Tommy, your position is indefensible.  I can't believe I'm even having a debate over this. 

If the players control the officiating through intimidation, there are no rules.  Suggesting that players should retaliate against officials, and that somehow that would solve the problem of poor officiating is braindead.  Period. 

The idea that if enough players do it, the league won't be able to do anything about it is braindead.  Period.

Before you wrote this, did you consider any previous incidents where a participant attacked an official, and how the fans responded?  Just look at the outrage over the Angel Matos attack on the Taikwondo official during the Olympics.  To suggest fans would tolerate thugs attacking officials is braindead.  Period.

There is one example I can think of where participants attack officials.  It's allowed and even encouraged.  The fans love it........but it's not a sport.....it's entertainment  and it's fake.  Perhaps you are confusing wrestling with real sports.

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BTW, are you UK Dolfan?

I used to be UK_Dolfan, but I no longer like in England so I changed my name at the beginning of season.

I read a story in either ESPN or SI. a couple of years ago about a Rugby player physically attacking a ref. 10 year ban for a player that was then in his mid 30's. Career over.