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Title: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: bsfins on October 04, 2008, 01:57:23 am
Well I just watched all the Verdicts read live on CNN.....They nailed both of them...Kidnapping,Attempted armed robbery...A few conspiracy charges.....12 Counts against him....

This was the Case in Las Vegas,where he claimed he was trying to get back his stolen Memorbilia...


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: Sunstroke on October 04, 2008, 01:59:45 am

How will O.J. ever find Nicole's killer now that he's in prison?




Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: Dave Gray on October 04, 2008, 04:09:41 am
I just read on the ticker that he may face life in prison.  Damn.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on October 04, 2008, 07:48:09 am
He's finally being put where he belongs. 


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: Dave Gray on October 04, 2008, 08:04:17 am
I remember saying something about O.J. Simpson back when I was in high school.  I was dead wrong at the time, and it took me this long to be proven wrong.

My thinking at the time was that he probably was involved in the death of his ex-wife, but the fact that he got off didn't really matter all that much to society.  He'd lose in civil court, and it's not like he was going to do anything ever again.

I assumed that if you'd gotten so close to getting caught, that you'd just lay low.  Apparently not.

Characters like OJ have re-shaped my view on prison.  I don't know if it's possible to learn your lesson, if your character is so deeply flawed.  We see the same people getting into trouble over and over again -- no amount of chances or close calls seem to matter.

When I was young and would do something questionable and come close to getting caught, the first thing I did was think "I'll never do that again."  I guess some people just lack that.

It's sort of a shitty realization.  I'd have a lot more faith in the world if I thought that Pac-Man Jones had learned some valuable life lesson and emerged a better person.  But I'm jaded.  I think that we'll probably hear about him getting arrested for shenanigans somewhere down the line.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on October 04, 2008, 12:22:27 pm
I remember saying something about O.J. Simpson back when I was in high school.  I was dead wrong at the time, and it took me this long to be proven wrong.

My thinking at the time was that he probably was involved in the death of his ex-wife, but the fact that he got off didn't really matter all that much to society.  He'd lose in civil court, and it's not like he was going to do anything ever again.

I assumed that if you'd gotten so close to getting caught, that you'd just lay low.  Apparently not.

Characters like OJ have re-shaped my view on prison.  I don't know if it's possible to learn your lesson, if your character is so deeply flawed.  We see the same people getting into trouble over and over again -- no amount of chances or close calls seem to matter.

When I was young and would do something questionable and come close to getting caught, the first thing I did was think "I'll never do that again."  I guess some people just lack that.

It's sort of a shitty realization.  I'd have a lot more faith in the world if I thought that Pac-Man Jones had learned some valuable life lesson and emerged a better person.  But I'm jaded.  I think that we'll probably hear about him getting arrested for shenanigans somewhere down the line.

Good analogy, Dave.  Although we haven't heard anything about Pac Man since he joined the Cowboys.  Hopefully he won't turn out like OJ Simpson or Lawrence Phillips.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: Dphins4me on October 04, 2008, 12:35:31 pm
I hate it when bad things happen to good people.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: Defense54 on October 04, 2008, 01:46:49 pm
I remember saying something about O.J. Simpson back when I was in high school.  I was dead wrong at the time, and it took me this long to be proven wrong.

My thinking at the time was that he probably was involved in the death of his ex-wife, but the fact that he got off didn't really matter all that much to society.  He'd lose in civil court, and it's not like he was going to do anything ever again.

I assumed that if you'd gotten so close to getting caught, that you'd just lay low.  Apparently not.

Characters like OJ have re-shaped my view on prison.  I don't know if it's possible to learn your lesson, if your character is so deeply flawed.  We see the same people getting into trouble over and over again -- no amount of chances or close calls seem to matter.

When I was young and would do something questionable and come close to getting caught, the first thing I did was think "I'll never do that again."  I guess some people just lack that.

It's sort of a shitty realization.  I'd have a lot more faith in the world if I thought that Pac-Man Jones had learned some valuable life lesson and emerged a better person.  But I'm jaded.  I think that we'll probably hear about him getting arrested for shenanigans somewhere down the line.

Excellent post.

I figured the same thing. Maybe it really was just a crime of passion . He saw his ex wife and just lost it.  He's got 2 children, maybe he lied his ass off to protect them. Maybe he is really just a cold blooded killer. A Bully.  Time will tell......... And it has.

He had a 13 year vacation playing golf and enjoying gold and his untouchable NFL pension. Time for him to pay amends.  If he gets life I'm guessing there will be a confession somewhere down the road as well.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on October 04, 2008, 09:17:58 pm
He was deemed a flight risk by the judge and will not be allowed bond.  His sentencing is set for Dec 5. 


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: Frimp on October 04, 2008, 09:52:07 pm
Can someone tell me whe whole story here? I only know bits and pieces. I know he was allegedly recovering sports memoribila. Who was he recovering this from, and why did they have it? Does anyone know?

Anyway, at least he'll be in jail. Good riddance.

And, Dave...Props on your post. That was a really good one.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: TonyB0D on October 05, 2008, 01:50:59 am
F this asshole - i was at work till 4 AM waiting for his goddamn verdict!


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: bsmooth on October 05, 2008, 03:19:04 am
When OJ was on trial for murder the San Francisco Chronicle did a story about how OJ ran a very violent gang in SF when he was in high school and his enforcer was Al the bronco driver. It just shows he is far from the good person he always tried to project. If it was not for his football talent he would have wound up dead or in prison decades ago.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: Frimp on October 05, 2008, 04:00:24 am
When OJ was on trial for murder the San Francisco Chronicle did a story about how OJ ran a very violent gang in SF when he was in high school and his enforcer was Al the bronco driver. It just shows he is far from the good person he always tried to project. If it was not for his football talent he would have wound up dead or in prison decades ago.

I always thought AC was a former teammate of his on the pro or college level.  ;D

Seriously.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: Buddhagirl on October 05, 2008, 05:51:11 am
When OJ was on trial for murder the San Francisco Chronicle did a story about how OJ ran a very violent gang in SF when he was in high school and his enforcer was Al the bronco driver. It just shows he is far from the good person he always tried to project. If it was not for his football talent he would have wound up dead or in prison decades ago.

It's funny you mention this. During the trial, my dad always mentioned that OJ was a thug.

I think this is an example of someone that cannot change. OJ is what I call a true criminal. In my opnion, there are those that will always be on the wrong side of the law. This has nothing to do with money, race, or intelligence. I think they're just predisposed to be criminals.

I think the average person gets caught up in something once, corrects what was happening at the time, and moves on with their life. The "true criminal" is incapable of that.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: run_to_win on October 05, 2008, 07:29:59 am
I remember saying something about O.J. Simpson back when I was in high school.  I was dead wrong at the time, and it took me this long to be proven wrong.

My thinking at the time was that he probably was involved in the death of his ex-wife, but the fact that he got off didn't really matter all that much to society.  He'd lose in civil court, and it's not like he was going to do anything ever again.

I assumed that if you'd gotten so close to getting caught, that you'd just lay low.  Apparently not.

Characters like OJ have re-shaped my view on prison.  I don't know if it's possible to learn your lesson, if your character is so deeply flawed.  We see the same people getting into trouble over and over again -- no amount of chances or close calls seem to matter.

When I was young and would do something questionable and come close to getting caught, the first thing I did was think "I'll never do that again."  I guess some people just lack that.

It's sort of a shitty realization.  I'd have a lot more faith in the world if I thought that Pac-Man Jones had learned some valuable life lesson and emerged a better person.  But I'm jaded.  I think that we'll probably hear about him getting arrested for shenanigans somewhere down the line.
With wisdom comes conservative values.   ;)


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: SCFinfan on October 05, 2008, 09:25:27 am
It is always disappointing to me to see any person go to prison.  I wish that the world was better.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: ethurst2 on October 05, 2008, 12:45:27 pm
I won't go into details and naming names but I know several professional players out here that are retired that played with or against O.J. at USC and with the Buffalo Bills and the comments are not good.

Also, Nicole Simpson wasn't no saint. She was a high price call girl hooked on heroin when O.J. met her and she and O.J. had ties to the Mob Syndicate in Los Angeles. One former USC player that went on to a 14 year career in the NFL told me that USC was a school that had a lot of mob ties and in Hollywood, that's possible. He said that USC has been paying players under the table for years and the NCAA turns their heads the other way when it comes to USC because there is a lot of money flowing through the school for sports. O.J. was one of those players that got special privileges from boosters and could run unchecked on campus and have people do his homework and get into fights.

So think back to the Reggie Bush fiasco and the Todd Marinovich scenario and you get the picture. USC has created outstanding players and a lot of them were paid off by boosters who were able to stop or halt investigations because of their influence. Some of these boosters are the biggest names in Hollywood.

So while all these other schools get sanctioned and get the death penalty, USC basically has always received a free pass or a slap on the wrist.

A couple of guys told me that O.J. had a BIG gambling problem back in the 90's and was borrowing money from loan sharks in L.A. that had those same ties to the underworld. That's what led to the whole situation. They wanted their money back.

I feel that O.J. knew who killed Nicole and had to be quiet about it or else, he was going to get killed.  At the same time, Nicole was still doing her thing on the side and this of course made O.J. mad because no one controls O.J. Simpson.

Throw in the incompetence of the L.A. Police Department and you have one big circus which his trial 13 years ago was.

No one deserves to die but when you are running with seedy people and are into underworld operations, you spin the wheel everyday. I know because my father was a drug dealer and kingpin in Miami.

So they both were living in seedy worlds.

But O.J. thinks that he's indestructible. I never trusted the way that he came across on T.V. I remember when he was a sideline reporter doing a Dolphins-Jets game a few years back and he didn't know that he was on the air from the studio in New York. You could hear him cussing his cameraman out and when he realized the Bob Costas had went to him live, he put on that fake smile like nothing had happened.

Whenever you carry a gun and hold somebody against their will, you're looking at prison time. O.J. must have thought that he was in the movies. You only get away with stuff like that in the movies.

From the time he was a teen getting into trouble, through USC and the NFL and then post football, O.J. Simpson NEVER matured as a man.

Jim Brown said it best about O.J. Simpson. Brown stated that Simpson is out of touch with reality and fake.

EXTRA NOTE: I always get flamed for bringing up the dark side in sports on this web-site and I know that some of you use this as an escape from the country crashing like the Roman Empire at this time but this is one of the reasons why the country is crashing. NO ETHICS, control or common sense. People turn a blind eye over to obvious facts almost about anything and never really check things out.

Simpson was worshipped as a God. Back when I was a kid watching him, he could do no wrong. He was one of the first black athletes to do commercials (Hertz Rent-A-Car) and when the Bills played the Dolphins, I would pray that the Dolphin D would put him out of the game.

Now some of you may believe this is conspiracy stuff and it's not. I know a lot of ex-NFL players and people in the loop and for some reason, it's hard for people to believe that even though a person isn't in sports journalism that they are just a fan who knows nothing. I worked out with these guys and you won't believe how the NFL runs behind closed doors or how these prestigious college programs have ties to organized crime. If there is betting on sports events, you can believe that some kind of organized crimes goes along with it (see 1991 UNLV investigation by the Las Vegas Police Department NOT the NCAA)


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: landlocked on October 05, 2008, 01:05:48 pm
I watched the verdict live the other night,and OJ just doesn't get it.I saw the look on his face as he was being led from the courtroom in handcuffs,like,"Hey,wait just a minute,I am O.J. Simpson!Isn't anyone gonna do something?"Dude is totally out of touch with reality.In my heart of hearts,I will always believe he killed Nicole and Ron,too much evidence,too much violence.This is oftentimes the end result of kissing a person's ass their entire life just because they can score touchdowns that make us feel all warm and fuzzy inside.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: Dave Gray on October 05, 2008, 07:42:20 pm
With wisdom comes conservative values.   ;)

Actually, in terms of prison, I've gotten both more liberal and more conservative at the same time.  It depends on the individual.

For some people who commit a crime, putting them in jail for a long time only turns them into a violent criminal thug, unable to operate in society.  They would've learned their lesson and changed their life after being in jail for a relatively short time behind bars.

But for others, no matter how long they're away, no matter how many chances, no matter what situation they're given, they are completely unable to function among the regular population and you might as well just throw away the key.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: StL FinFan on October 05, 2008, 07:43:57 pm
It took 13 years for justice to be served.  Here's hoping the next 13 are spent with OJ Simpson in jail.


Title: Re: O.J. Simpson Guilty on all charges!
Post by: Defense54 on October 05, 2008, 09:29:26 pm
It took 13 years for justice to be served.  Here's hoping the next 13 are spent with OJ Simpson in jail.

More then that! He killed 2 People...........Ummm........ ..  (cough)...... .........I mean he committed Armed Robbery!