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Title: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Jim Gray on October 06, 2008, 04:57:33 pm Miami has consecutive wins for the first time since 2006. Not only is Miami .500, they beat the Chargers and Patriots back to back. The Chargers and Patriots played in the AFC Championship game last year. Okay, they have some injuries, but I'm still impressed.
Before I get too excited, I remind myself that Miami began the season with a pretty poor week 1 against the Jets and a horrible week 2 against the Cards. Should I just ignore those games and look at recent performance? Can I believe in these Miami Dolphins? Recent history tells me not to trust this team, but it's so tempting. I want to believe, I really do. Part of my reluctance is that I'm much more logical than emotional. I base my expectations on history, statistics, matchups, etc. But nothing makes sense with this team. They are beating teams they should lose to, and losing to teams they should beat. Enough waffling, I'm in. I think we are a good team, not great, but a good team. Go Dolphins. Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Sunstroke on October 06, 2008, 05:01:46 pm I voted for "...need to see some more." I have been VERY impressed with the way Miami has played the past two weeks, but I'd like to see a few more games in a row where they play with this kind of heart and this kind of balls. Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Rick on October 06, 2008, 05:17:24 pm I voted for I've always believed in this year's Miami Dolphins....I predicted this team would win 9 games this season, and I am very confident they will win AT LEAST that many games!!!
They have Bill Parcells (fucking genius) running the show, MUCH MUCH better coaching with Tony Sparano and staff, and have brought in some key free agents like Chad Pennington, Jason Ferguson, Randy Starks, Justin Smiley etc.....they also put together a GREAT draft class (thanks to Parcells/Ireland/Sparano) and not to mention the brilliant trade for Anthony Fasano and Akin Ayodele. Gus Johnson said it best when he said the Miami Dolphins "ARE BACK"!!!!! ;D Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Dolphin-UK on October 06, 2008, 05:23:53 pm I have a theory. The reason for the poor start was simple. This team lacks talent, and is making up for it in preparation and execution. The first two weks opposition teams were still anomalies, now we have enough information to prepare properly, take away their strenths and use ours to their maximum.
I think we are a below average team, punching above its weight with a hearty mix of hard work on and off the field, solid preparation and game planning and good execution :) Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on October 06, 2008, 05:30:53 pm I voted that I need to see more. I want to believe in this team so badly..... but if they lose to Houston next week, the last two wins mean diddly squat.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: simeon on October 06, 2008, 06:02:39 pm Yesterday I mentioned about getting on the I believe band wagon during the game. Some of you thought I was implying we have band wagon fans on the site. Most of us went through hell together last year I still have Freddy Kruger nightmares but only Cam Cameron is the villain. This band wagon is a wagon for believing they can win, these two wins not only increases our confidence but the dolphins confidence also. Miami could have beaten the jets they were in the game, so honestly they have only played really bad for one game. We have to start believing the little train can make it up that hill.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Tepop84 on October 06, 2008, 06:05:18 pm Miami could have beaten the jets they were in the game, so honestly they have only played really bad for one game. Yea after seeing what the Cardinals did to the Bills without Boldin made me feel a little better about the Dolphins loss to them. Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: StL FinFan on October 06, 2008, 06:40:44 pm Yesterday I mentioned about getting on the I believe band wagon during the game. Some of you thought I was implying we have band wagon fans on the site. Most of us went through hell together last year I still have Freddy Kruger nightmares but only Cam Cameron is the villain. This band wagon is a wagon for believing they can win, these two wins not only increases our confidence but the dolphins confidence also. Miami could have beaten the jets they were in the game, so honestly they have only played really bad for one game. We have to start believing the little train can make it up that hill. I'm on that bandwagon now. :) Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: simeon on October 06, 2008, 06:54:41 pm I'm on that bandwagon now. :) You officially climbed on last week, and its a pleasure having you on board.By the way you may not know it but you had the best prediction for the last game you were almost dead on. Since we won a game, I am now on the "we can win" bandwagon. Unless we lose. :P I would say you are the man, but I know you are the woman. ;)Chargers 13 Dolphins 17 Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Defense54 on October 06, 2008, 07:23:08 pm I always believed they would go 8-8 this season.........but to tell you the truth I didn't think we could beat such a explosive offense like SD. My heart said yes and my head said no. I don't know how much more we can suck out of this wildcat scheme and the Ronnie Brown show but our defense is also playing some killer football. I didn't think our Dbacks had it in them. What does Bill Parcells do to motivate People? Just incredible. I'm a believer . Always have been and always will.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Kid Dynamite on October 06, 2008, 07:41:53 pm I didnt have a prediction for games won this year for the fins. I was of the mind set that it didnt matter. I believed this was the first of a few rebuilding years. I expected a few wins.
I find myself shocked that I was so wrong. If Brett Favre didnt complete that lucky hail marry duck in the first game the fins would be 3 and 1 right now. This is Sporanos and Parcells team now and it shows. These guys are having fun out there which is a far cry from what has been seen in years. I truely believe that Jimmy Johnson destroyed this team with all the negativity and the ego that came with him. Even after he left his ghost was still around with Dave Wanstad. Obviously Nick Saban and Cam Cameron just were around for a blink of an eye. This team now has a sense of identity with Parcells and Sporano. As much as I loved JT and Thomas it was the right thing to do. The new guard wanted a new way of thinking in the locker room. they have these guys believing that they can win and they are. Beating two damn good teams back to back isnt luck. These guys are for real. Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: simeon on October 06, 2008, 08:01:11 pm If Brett Favre didnt complete that lucky hail marry duck in the first game the fins would be 3 and 1 right now. This is Sporanos and Parcells team now and it shows. These guys are having fun out there which is a far cry from what has been seen in years. Hey Kid Dynamite this well said with alot of logic, you should post more often.I truely believe that Jimmy Johnson destroyed this team with all the negativity and the ego that came with him. Even after he left his ghost was still around with Dave Wanstad. Obviously Nick Saban and Cam Cameron just were around for a blink of an eye. This team now has a sense of identity with Parcells and Sporano. As much as I loved JT and Thomas it was the right thing to do. The new guard wanted a new way of thinking in the locker room. they have these guys believing that they can win and they are. Beating two damn good teams back to back isnt luch. These guys are for real. Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Kid Dynamite on October 06, 2008, 08:05:42 pm Well thanks for the invite. ;D
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: DolFan619 on October 06, 2008, 08:07:24 pm I predicted that the team would get seven wins this season, but I figured that the wins would start coming later on in the season. This team could be back sooner than we all thought.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Tenshot13 on October 06, 2008, 09:10:49 pm I've always believed that this team was for real (to the ridicule from a few posters on this site since I came aboard). I predicted 10-6 and I still see that. I think the reason we sucked out the first two games was our team had not gelled yet and I still think they can gel a little more. Merling and Langford have improved their skills since the season opener, that makes Porter a more viable threat with teammates playing at his intensity, not to mention Roth seems to have adjusted nicely to the OLB position. With all the pressure our front seven get, it has made our secondary better. Our OL has made leaps and bounds since the opener and are starting to really punch teams in the mouth, and cut down on the stupid penalties. A lot of our rookies seem to be adjusting to the speed of the NFL. The most surprising thing to me is Ronnie Brown's play...I didn't think he'd be playing at this level so soon. It's exciting to watch him and Ricky with that 1-2 punch. Now if only the rest of our WR can play like Camarillo, Fasano, and Martin we should be in good shape. ;D
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Defense54 on October 06, 2008, 10:20:29 pm I didnt have a prediction for games won this year for the fins. I was of the mind set that it didnt matter. I believed this was the first of a few rebuilding years. I expected a few wins. I find myself shocked that I was so wrong. If Brett Favre didnt complete that lucky hail marry duck in the first game the fins would be 3 and 1 right now. This is Sporanos and Parcells team now and it shows. These guys are having fun out there which is a far cry from what has been seen in years. I truely believe that Jimmy Johnson destroyed this team with all the negativity and the ego that came with him. Even after he left his ghost was still around with Dave Wanstad. Obviously Nick Saban and Cam Cameron just were around for a blink of an eye. This team now has a sense of identity with Parcells and Sporano. As much as I loved JT and Thomas it was the right thing to do. The new guard wanted a new way of thinking in the locker room. they have these guys believing that they can win and they are. Beating two damn good teams back to back isnt luck. These guys are for real. Welcome to the site Bro! That said I gotta disagree on Jimmy Johnson. He gave us a Team that took us to the Playoffs and was really just a few pieces short of the whole deal. What a great defense he built us! He did screw us royally by suggesting Dave Wannabe , but it was Wayne Huizenga who not only kept him employed...........he gave the POS an extension! We all know how Saban turned out, but he really was the best prospect out there. Gotta give Wayne credit for going after him the way he did. Cam Cameron? Ouch. That one hurt . Wayne couldn't have taken a bigger shit if he ate off of one of those Mexican street cart vendors. Thankfully he finally realized you can't interview for this job like you do one of his branch managers. You gotta know the game to know who has it and who doesn't. Bill Parcells is one of those people. Don't kid yourself..........Jimmy Johnson was as well until he lost the fire. If Jimmy hadn't had the mid life crisis we would have had a Superbowl by 2001 , maybe even with Dan Marino. If Johnson had hit on just 1 runningback like shanahan and the Broncos did on Terrell Davis in the 6th round.........Marino might have had that ring instead of Elway. Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Thundergod on October 06, 2008, 11:42:24 pm Whatever happened after the Cardinals game worked. This isn't the same team from weeks 1 and 2. They're playing with confidence, fire, and determination. I love it. Believer? Hell yeah!
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: simeon on October 06, 2008, 11:51:37 pm Welcome to the site Bro! That said I gotta disagree on Jimmy Johnson. He gave us a Team that took us to the Playoffs and was really just a few pieces short of the whole deal. What a great defense he built us! He did screw us royally by suggesting Dave Wannabe , but it was Wayne Huizenga who not only kept him employed...........he gave the POS an extension! We all know how Saban turned out, but he really was the best prospect out there. Gotta give Wayne credit for going after him the way he did. Cam Cameron? Ouch. That one hurt . Wayne couldn't have taken a bigger shit if he ate off of one of those Mexican street cart vendors. Thankfully he finally realized you can't interview for this job like you do one of his branch managers. You gotta know the game to know who has it and who doesn't. Bill Parcells is one of those people. Don't kid yourself..........Jimmy Johnson was as well until he lost the fire. If Jimmy hadn't had the mid life crisis we would have had a Superbowl by 2001 , maybe even with Dan Marino. If Johnson had hit on just 1 runningback like shanahan and the Broncos did on Terrell Davis in the 6th round.........Marino might have had that ring instead of Elway. Defense you are a cool dude who I usually agree with, but Dynamite is correct. Sure Jimmy brought in great players but he brought alot of garbage with him that haunted this team for what seems like forever. Jimmy started the domino effect in Miami, so I believe if Shula wasn't forced out we may have a Superbowl in those years when we had a great team.Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Calgary_Dolphan on October 06, 2008, 11:52:54 pm I'm a hopeless optimist. I voeted I always believe. I'm ashamed to say it, but I believed in Jimmy, in Wanny, in Saban, and in Cameron.
I have friends who laugh at me. . . . Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: simeon on October 07, 2008, 12:59:53 am I'm a hopeless optimist. I voeted I always believe. I'm ashamed to say it, but I believed in Jimmy, in Wanny, in Saban, and in Cameron. I am assuming you are in Canada so welcome aboard. But you were optomistic about Cameron even after being 0-10 ?I have friends who laugh at me. . . . Are in the mountains in Canada where there may be some thin air?(only kidding) Definately welcome we need more optomistic fans on the board. Personally Defense won me over before the Patriots game. It's time to leave our bitter feelings in the past and start adopting that winning attitude again. Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Tenshot13 on October 07, 2008, 01:02:10 am ^That's what I'm sayin'
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: ochizon on October 07, 2008, 08:15:02 am I still say 6-10, but its good to see some wins!
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Phishfan on October 07, 2008, 08:55:18 am I am pleasantly surprised. I was talking to a guy last night and he was saying how "conditioned" he has become to seeing the Dolphins do badly. Houston is very winable so it needs to get done. A let down in that game will set this team backwards.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Brian Fein on October 07, 2008, 01:11:20 pm If the Dolphins go into Houston and kick the living rap out of them, I will believe. I am hopeful and optimistic now, but I am worried that its the same old "play to the level of your opponent" type of play we've seen from the Fins in the past.
I wanna see us beat Houston by 30+ and then I'll be on the bandwagon. Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Defense54 on October 07, 2008, 02:48:22 pm Defense you are a cool dude who I usually agree with, but Dynamite is correct. Sure Jimmy brought in great players but he brought alot of garbage with him that haunted this team for what seems like forever. Jimmy started the domino effect in Miami, so I believe if Shula wasn't forced out we may have a Superbowl in those years when we had a great team. Besides Dave Wannabe what other garbage was he resonsible for? He didn't keep him around 5 years that was all Wayne. We were very competive when Jimmy Johnson coached this team and years after from the players he brought in. We are STILL profiting from Jimmy Johnson 8 years later with a nice 2nd rounder for next years draft for Jason Taylor. He had us on the right track. This team did no worse in the 3 years JJ was the head coach then the last 10 years of the Shula era. Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Kid Dynamite on October 07, 2008, 04:53:35 pm Defense, I see where you are coming from with Jimmy's defense. but this is where I think he messed up.
-Jimmy Johnson came into Miami strutting around like he was the secong coming. He bashed Shula every which way he could in a very disprespectful way which I am sure ruffled some feathers with in the team...... -He brought in 4 gems in four whole years, so did a lot of teams. Most of his other picks were busts. -He built up the defense but destroyed the offence. We had a God awful receiving group when Jimmy was here. He did nothing to give Marino weapons.The running game was worse off then when with Shula which is amazing since Jimmy was all about running the ball... When running didnt work for three quarters he would then call on Marino after bashing him all week long to the media to pull them out. -Kippy Brown said Jimmy was unbearable to be around when with the Dolphins. If they lost you couldnt speak to him and when they won it was never good enough. Kippy, said that Jimmy once said" We beat the bills, big deal. I won two super bowls".... Not exactly team building material if you ask me. -Marino was the face of the Dolphins and jimmy couldnt handle that since he is such an egomaniac. He bashed Marino any way he could to the media. If Marino broke a record or pulled a game out of his ass Jimmy would just shrug his shoulders. If Marino had an average game then he would blast him with thinnly veiled attacks. -He NEVER EVER accepted that he messed up. He would either blame Shula, Marino, his mothers passing, injuries, or his bad hair, or blah blah blah........ After their first year going 8-8 Jimmy had the balls to stand up there and say "THIS ISNT MY TEAM". He basically said this team sucks and I didnt put it together. Not exactly team building materal if you ask me. After the second season when they went 9-7 Jimmy blamed injuries. The third season it was burn out and his mom died. The fourth season he just ran out of town since he couldnt fool the fans anymore. I admit that I was a jimmy fan when he came into town. I wanted him here but he was a huge mistake in hind sight.... He brought us a great defense but he also tore down the offense to nothing. He brought a lot of negativity to the team by openly bashing the dolphins past, a former coach, current players, and their leader in Marino. He basically castrated his star player who was the Dolphins leader. All in all Shula's team in his final fours years was better that Johnsons Dolphins in his four years. Parcells was the best thing that ever happened to this team. He gave this team the enema it needed. Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: DZA on October 07, 2008, 05:35:28 pm I also voted" I want to believe, but I need to see more " Even though Miami had 2 very convincing wins but the 2 lossese at the beginning still burns that they can fuk it up anytime. A win at Houston and Baltimore will say thay are 4 real.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in the Dolphins? Post by: Deof Movestofca on October 09, 2008, 12:04:29 pm I truely believe that Jimmy Johnson destroyed this team with all the negativity and the ego that came with him. It always seemed to me that proving Jerry Jones wrong and winning with his schemes were more important to him than building a good football team. The Dolphins were what the Cowboys would have looked like if it hadn't been for the Herschel Walker |