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 GW's Memoir: Publishers Say No Thanks.............

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/06/bushs-memoir-publishers-s_n_141809.html



I can not even think of another president who couldn't sell anything they wrote. If they were to fart and record it , it would be worth millions.  Do they shield this guy from any and all News? Does he even realize what a complete failure his presidency has become?   Just pathetic...........

Have you ever been checked for bipolar disorder?

  Why is that?

I am not on any team here bro. I am no Repulican and I certainly am not a democrat. I hold everyone accountable and I give credit where its due and I slam when needed. No one is perfect and no one is completley bad.

But I wonder if GW knows how bad the public hates him? If he knows that HE caused John McCain the election?  Politicians are at least supposed to act/pretend like they give a crap..........

Your online personna seems to change with the wind.  I figured you're either bipolar or are trying to gain favor among left-wingers at TDMMC.  I suppose you could have a strong need to associate yourself with winners due to some inadequacy issue. 

The people who hate Bush are merely the left's version of the fanatics who hated Clinton. 

Meanwhile, the majority of reasonable adults do not hate or adore, do not despise or idolize, our political leaders. 

Not really cause I could care less who Bush got a blowjob from. I think the general dislike of Bush is much more tangible.

Most on the right hated Clinton's actions (cheating on his wife, lying about it, perjuring himself, trying to make it go away with "it depends on what the meaning of is is", and generally casting a shadow on the nation's highest office), not the man.

That's all very tangible.  It's not like 99.9% of people on the right supported his actions and only later hated him for those actions.

People on the left, mainly in hindsight, strongly disagree, with Bush's policy decisions and for that, they openly claim to hate the man.

Conversely, how many people on the right make statements such as this about Bush?  link (http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=12519.msg133739#msg133739)

Or maybe he doesn't buy either parties platform in full. 

And even republican hate Bush.  I am thinking Bush's recent softer gentler still might be so he will leave office with better popularity than Nixon. 

Why? becuase I have actual thought out opinions? Becuase I don't follow a party line? I think your upset still at the fact that McCain lost and now you feel the need to attack me and my character becuase you actually have the inadequacy issue.  I have a very open mind and welcome all intelligent thoughts and opinons on every subject. I don't play for any Team and realize both Liberals and conservatives have strong points and weak ones. I probably lean a bit more conservative as I get older but the world is a changing my friend. Attacking me is gonna help anything except for maybe a short term bandaid to fix whatever your real issues are. Good luck with that.

Can you get past all the tough-guy posturing and explain why your thoughts and opinions now are so different from your thoughts and opinions from just a few months ago?

it's not even close how much more the people hate bush as compared to any other president in the history of our country.  he is the most despised and divisive president we have ever had, and the numbers and stats back it up

Agreed, hence the validity of the term "BDS". 

I think much of that has to do with so many people having been "tricked" into supporting him.  His post 9/11 decisions were as close to unanimous as any Presidential decisions in history.  People can't admit that they merely changed their minds.  They need a way to justify their agreement so they claim they were tricked.  Being outsmarted and duped by someone they believe to be a bumbling idiot is both embarrasing and infuriating for them.

I can't see myself, or the majority of conservatives, hating any President.  Strongly disagreeing with his decisions and politics is one thing, but hating or despising the individual is quite another. 

Tough guy postering? Stop the attacks and accusations and we can have a meaningful conversation anytime. Be a dick and I'll then treat you like one.

Back to President Bush.............Don't you think its just a little more then a coincidence that as soon as the bottom falls out of the economy that the fuel prices magically drop? Back in 2004 when Bush was re-elected and the economy was growing faster then it should have him and his buddies all made out on the American People buy pushing fuel to over $4.00 a gallon! Then the bottom drops out and it magically Lowers right before the election.  He had control the entire time. Its bullshit.  I know Presidents of all eras have pulled shit we would never understand . But this guy is either the most completely clueless fuck on the planet..........or he really just does not give a shit. 

I'm not saying John McCain was anything like that turd and his meat puppet Dick. But certainly he has the same friends and just being a Repub brought him down bigtime. Take the timing of wall street..........the addition of Palin to try and get Hillarys votes.......Are they serious? Do they not know what they look like to the American Public? Are they that clueless to think we wouldn't see there true motives?

I wanted John McCain to win. But because of George Bush and his failed presidency John didn't have a chance.  So I'm gonna back Obama with everything I have because I want this country to be the same place that I grew up in for my sons. I want them to have opportunity and a good life.

I don't play the party line. This is NOT the Miami Dolphins Vs. The Jets. This is LIFE.  You need to get that through your head bro.

And cut out the baby shit and act like a man if you want to be treated like one.
I won't be responding to this thread again. For the most part I enjoy and agree with you, I hope to start anew with you again tomorrow.

I think you are missing it.  I didn't change my mind.

I did not vote for Bush. Didn't vote for Gore either.  Thought Gore won the election.

I didn't agree with some of Bush's policies including the elimination of the estate tax.  I poked fun at him when he could not handle the difficult multitasking of watching a football game and eating a pretzel at the same time. 

But then 9/11 came.   And I was behind the president 100%.  Even tried to join the army. (I was too old.) I supported him when he went into Afghanistan. 

Then he told me Iraq was behind 9/11 and Iraq had WMD.  I saw the spy satalites shown on TV.  And how that was proof of WMD.  To me it looked like some buildings.  I couldn't see where there was WMDs or if it was a warehouse in Iowa.  I heard about th nuke parts in Africa. 

And I said.  I dunno.  But if the prez says they got WMD and were behind 9/11.  Well I really don't expect to get the same CIA briefing he does.  I may not agree with him on wealth transfer tax policy.  I think he is kinda dumb and bit slimy. But I trust he would not lie to me about WMD.  I am behind you 100%.  Lets flatten Iraq.

Then I learned there was no WMD.  The African nukes was all BS. As was the Iraq 9/11 connection. He tries to block the 9/11 commission.  . And when Condi Rice testifies we had no idea Osama would pull a 9/11 attack and then she flippantly answers the  question about the title of an August PDB. I conclude.....

President Bush is a MOTHERFUCKING LYING PIECE OF SHIT. 

   

Defensive5499,  ;)

Your post is so convoluted and contradictory that I don't even know where to start.

Perhaps it's best that we just end it here.

So did Gore.  The Supreme Court upheld the initial count and 2 recounts.  Nine independent recounts all came to the same conclusion.

No.  The media told you that.


People seem confuse "WMDs" and "nuclear weapons".

Iraq did have WMDs.  That is indisputable.  The conclusions of the security agencies of 11 independent countries was that they were working towards nuclear weapons.  The fear was where, with whom, those weapons, if developed, might end up.


Uranium from Niger.


There are so many misunderstandings and oversimplifications here that we should start a new post.   



If that's what it takes for you to sleep at night that's fine by me.
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Bush and Chaney had an agenda to invade Iraq and they were just looking for the reason. The war on terror came convenient to them. Unfortunately it looks like Saddam was just posturing to make himself appear more powerful than he really was. I would be completely interested in reading a Bush book, but unfortunately I doubt he would come clean on his real motivations.

Based on what?

link (http://www.davidstuff.com/political/wmdquotes.htm), link (http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bushlied.htm), link (http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp).

George W is why we invaded Iraq.

Wait a second...

Come on. I don't have to link to everything. It is common knowledge that there had been a rift with Iraq and weapons inspectors dating back to the Clinton years. Bush, Cheney, & Rumsfeld are all on record of wanting to take more action against Iraq than the previous administration, but then this pesky thing we call 9/11 happened and put their plan back a few years.

By the way your links are pointless and meaningless. Did I ever say Bush lied, no. Did I say Democrats didn't believe it also, not. I said he had an agenda. Of that there is no dispute.

So ......now if there isn't a link to something on the Net , that means it isn't true or it didn't happen? I'd venture to say that half the stuff on the net isn't true anyway. When you look back over the last 8 years common sense will tell you the truth.  The first time we invaded Iraq with his dad, we had the world behind us. It was a international effort. This time after they all said we shouldn't , he did it anyway. That doesn't tell you he's got an agenda?  ::)

I didn't really mean to ask for a link.  "Link, link, link" were links that I posted.  I keep hearing that Bush had an agenda based on "common knowledge".  Apparently my knowledge isn't so common.  Is there some statement he made that this "common knowledge" is based upon? 

If you don't remember specifics, or even generalities, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  It only means that I'm oblivious/ignorant to it and you don't remember it. 


Agreed.


Not only those three, hence the 3 links I posted.


Just about everyone "talked the talk" for years.  Bush finally "walked the walk".  In HINDSIGHT, many now think that wasn't such a great idea.


I'm not into "strawman arguments" and never meant to imply that you made either statement. 


Could be.  Other than problems with weapons inspectors, I don't remember much about any Bush agenda pre-9/11.  It looks to me, based on my links, that the agenda was that of both parties both pre and post 9/11.

I think it's pretty funny when people try to compare the right's dislike of Clinton to everyone-but-the-extreme-right's dislike of GWB.

When GWB had the lowest approval rating (20% (http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm)) of any President since they started tracking such ratings, how is that remotely similar to Clinton?  The lowest approval rating (40%) Clinton had was in 1994; from the moment the Lewinsky scandal broke until his February 1999 acquittal on perjury and obstruction of justice charges, his approval rating never dipped below 58%.  What's more, Clinton actually had his highest approval rating (73%) DURING the Lewinsky scandal.

GWB and Clinton are not even remotely comparable.

Chapter Six:

Me vs. a Pretzel

Actually that is Chapter Nine. 

Chapter One  - The taste of Silver & the spoon I was born with.
Chapter Two - Cheerleading
Chapter Three - Everyday is Halloween at Skull and Bones
Chapter Four - Defending airspace of Alabama from the Vietcong
Chapter Five - White powder or booze
Chapter Six - Making money as an insider trader
Chapter Seven - Its like Xmas - spending the TX budget surplus
Chapter Eight - Lost the popular vote; but own the election 5-4.
Chapter Nine - Me vs. the Pretzel     
Chapter Ten - vanquishing the goodwill of the world post 9/11.
Chapter Eleven - Mission accomplished - I got to land on a carrier. 
Chapter Twelve - Swiftboaters are my heros
Chapter Thirteen -  Golfing during hurricane or a little bad weather shouldn't ruin a vacation.
Chapter Fourteen - only Barney truly understand me - I wish I could have bitten that reporter
Chapter Fifteen - Election night: Condi was as popular in the whitehouse as Giants fan was in a Boston bar on superbowl Sunday.

The reports, and I don't think they are denied, is that Bush asked Rumsfeld to look into war scenarios with Iraq in November 2001. Considering our other engagements at that time it sounds to me like the man had an agenda with Iraq.

That's post 9/11.  I thought you meant he came into office with that agenda.