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Title: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 09:35:19 am
Wow. This story is...odd.

In a nutshell: Woman from Oklahoma goes to Louisiana to do some sort of initiation to join the Klan. She gets homesick and asks to go home. A fight ensues. Their "Grand Lordship" shoots the woman.  They then go to a convenience store and ask the clerk how to get blood stains out of clothes. Clerk calls the cops, of course.

The entire story is insane. Read up on it here:  http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/13/klan.slaying/index.html

The pictures of these people would be hilarious if they weren't murderers.



Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: landlocked on November 14, 2008, 09:38:50 am
Let's see.........people in the klan shooting one another.........no big loss.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Defense54 on November 14, 2008, 09:57:35 am

Stupid is as stupid does............. :P

If more hate and terrorist groups were this stupid there would be no need for the patriot act.  ::)


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Phishfan on November 14, 2008, 10:04:43 am
I love at the end of the article where it is said, "They were a small group but they were fairly organized." I would hate to see an unorganized group then. Seriously, if I was a sick bastard I could run one of these groups or a cult fairly easily I think.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Defense54 on November 14, 2008, 10:08:57 am
I love at the end of the article where it is said, "They were a small group but they were fairly organized." I would hate to see an unorganized group then. Seriously, if I was a sick bastard I could run one of these groups or a cult fairly easily I think.

I would think that shooting the new recruitments would have a negative effect on the growth of the group.............  Not exactly leadership 101.  ::)


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Sunstroke on November 14, 2008, 10:21:07 am


When I saw the picture on this article, I thought it was of the guy who shot the woman. How was I supposed to guess that this person was actually a female?

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/CRIME/11/13/klan.slaying/art.lynch.jpg)

That sort of ugliness ought to carry the death penalty anyway...




Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: landlocked on November 14, 2008, 10:25:38 am
When i lived in west-central Louisiana back in the 80s I was actually approached about joining the klan.Even in a small town like the one I lived in,most everyone thought that these guys were cowards and rejects.Even bubba rednecks like me and my friends had nothing to do with them.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: StL FinFan on November 14, 2008, 10:29:39 am
I won't pass judgement on a woman who I did not even know.  People who did know her said she was very lonely.  Maybe it was a misguided attempt to belong.  The rest of the KKK, however, can kiss my ass, or maybe they can kiss Barak Obama's ass.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 10:34:42 am

When I saw the picture on this article, I thought it was of the guy who shot the woman. How was I supposed to guess that this person was actually a female?

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/CRIME/11/13/klan.slaying/art.lynch.jpg)

That sort of ugliness ought to carry the death penalty anyway...




Sadly, the photo is credited from the Oklahoma DOC. Also this woman had NEVER been out of the state of OK. Even sadder is that her first time out of the state was to go join the Klan. WTF?!?!

Most "lonely" people just have random sex with strangers on CraigsList or something. Not join the Klan.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Phishfan on November 14, 2008, 10:34:45 am

 How was I supposed to guess that this person was actually a female?



I had to look twice. I thought it was one of the guys also.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Sunstroke on November 14, 2008, 10:39:14 am
Most "lonely" people just have random sex with strangers on CraigsList or something. Not join the Klan.

I'm never confiding anything to Fausto again...goddamit!



Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 10:43:22 am
I'm never confiding anything to Fausto again...goddamit!



She doesn't look like she could get laid even on CraigsList in Oklahoma!


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: StL FinFan on November 14, 2008, 10:46:31 am
Even if she was a racist, she did not derserve to die. 


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Sunstroke on November 14, 2008, 10:53:39 am

I dunno, StL...between the KKK urges and the rampant butt-ugliness, maybe we should just call it a mercy killing and put that dead moose in the ground.



Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 11:12:19 am
This whole thing is Darwinism at it's best. If you take a good look at those that were locked up, a few of them look like the freaking missing link. A couple of others look like their mom is also their sister. Ewww...




Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: StL FinFan on November 14, 2008, 11:16:34 am
Yes, all ugly people should be locked up.  ::)


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Defense54 on November 14, 2008, 11:27:21 am
Now we know the real reason the KKK wears sheets on their heads........... :o ::)


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: landlocked on November 14, 2008, 11:30:09 am
Yes, all ugly people should be locked up.  ::)
Then we would have no TDMMC,lol,unless we had internet access in jail. ;D


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: StL FinFan on November 14, 2008, 11:30:55 am
Then we would have no TDMMC,lol,unless we had internet access in jail. ;D

Speak for yourself!  ;)


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: MaineDolFan on November 14, 2008, 11:31:47 am
Either way this is a sad story.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: MaineDolFan on November 14, 2008, 11:33:04 am
Speak for yourself!  ;)

Yeah!  Have you seen pictures of StL?  She's a hottie!


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 11:40:55 am
Yes, all ugly people should be locked up.  ::)

I was thinking more along the lines of, "Ugly people join the Klan. Then shoot their own member and ask clerks at a store how to get blood out of their clothes."   :)


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: StL FinFan on November 14, 2008, 11:41:30 am
^ I think you would have to include "stupid" in there somewhere.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: bsfins on November 14, 2008, 11:46:24 am
Jeez Stroke you want me dead.... :D
Do do list...
Go check Craig's list for lonely people.... :D

It amazes me,she lived in Tulsa,and has never left the state, and I thought I was hermit....I mean a wrong turn and two blocks later you're in Missouri,Arkansas,or Kansas from Tulsa....

I feel like it's sad world when you're that lonely ,that you turn to a hate group....


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 11:46:57 am
^ I think you would have to include "stupid" in there somewhere.

Yes. I forgot that part of my theory.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: BoSoxGrl on November 14, 2008, 12:43:58 pm
Even if she was a racist, she did not derserve to die. 
Wait that's a chick?!?!


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: jtex316 on November 14, 2008, 12:44:17 pm
They have CraigsList in Oklahoma?


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 12:51:30 pm
They have CraigsList in Oklahoma?

I would think so. Except maybe its CletusList, BillyBobsList, or BubbasList.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 14, 2008, 01:34:24 pm
This tread is going poorly. 

Killing ugly people?

Wait that's a chick?!?!


I would think so. Except maybe its CletusList, BillyBobsList, or BubbasList.

Check out this thread
http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=13093.0

and explain to me what is going on in this thread. 


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 01:36:10 pm
This tread is going poorly. 

Killing ugly people?

Wait that's a chick?!?!


I would think so. Except maybe its CletusList, BillyBobsList, or BubbasList.

Check out this thread
http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=13093.0

and explain to me what is going on in this thread. 

I have no tolerance for racists. Period.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 14, 2008, 01:50:15 pm
I have no tolerance for racists. Period.

Me neither, but you took a swipe not only at her but all of Oklahoma. 


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 01:59:25 pm
Me neither, but you took a swipe not only at her but all of Oklahoma. 
First and foremost, it's a joke.

However, I have no love for Oklahoma. I am a Texas girl and was brought up to hate Oklahoma. It's like racism, but for an entire state.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: run_to_win on November 14, 2008, 02:00:18 pm
Me neither, but you took a swipe not only at her but all of Oklahoma. 
But Hoodie ... Oklahoma voted for McCain and the editor of some small town paper in Oklahoma didn't even acknowledge Obama's victory on the front page!  What other proof do you need that they're all racists!

 ;D


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: run_to_win on November 14, 2008, 02:04:38 pm
First and foremost, it's a joke.
Ohhhh, when you stereotype it's okay because it's just a just joke.
 
However, I have no love for Oklahoma. I am a Texas girl and was brought up to hate Oklahoma. It's like racism, but for an entire state.
Wow, indoctrinated to hate.  That's sad.  And unable to move past your childhood indoctrination.  Even sadder.

Next time I see my folks I'm going to give then a big hug for not indoctrinating me to hate anyone. 


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 02:24:51 pm
Ohhhh, when you stereotype it's okay because it's just a just joke.
  Wow, indoctrinated to hate.  That's sad.  And unable to move past your childhood indoctrination.  Even sadder.

Next time I see my folks I'm going to give then a big hug for not indoctrinating me to hate anyone. 

Ha....You truly have no sense of humor. I'm sure you know that OU and UT are HUUUUGGGGEEE rivals. Thus my joke.  ;)  This rivalry is taken very, very seriously for some.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: StL FinFan on November 14, 2008, 02:37:15 pm
I hate the entire state of Kanas, even Kansas City, MO for having Kansas in the name.  Is that wrong?  ;D


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 14, 2008, 02:41:30 pm
But Hoodie ... Oklahoma voted for McCain and the editor of some small town paper in Oklahoma didn't even acknowledge Obama's victory on the front page!  What other proof do you need that they're all racists!


I don't believe the whole state of Oklahoma to racist.  But there certainly are racists in Oklahoma. 

But your one-sideness in defending all but the most extreme and blatant racism by whites and condemning the slightest offense made by minorities is a double standard that shows extreme bias.   


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: landlocked on November 14, 2008, 03:03:50 pm
There are some pretty strange folks in Michigan,too.........maybe someone should start a new thread,"states we hate".


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 14, 2008, 03:09:04 pm
There are some pretty strange folks in Michigan,too.........maybe someone should start a new thread,"states we hate".

On a dophin's website, I think my home state is not going to fare well. 


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Buddhagirl on November 14, 2008, 03:09:34 pm
I hate the entire state of Kanas, even Kansas City, MO for having Kansas in the name.  Is that wrong?  ;D

No. It's not.

There are some pretty strange folks in Michigan,too.........maybe someone should start a new thread,"states we hate".

I have a HUGE list of states I hate. Most of them have nothing to do with them being racist. Some states just seem like the suck. (I lived in Michigan for about 9 months when I was young. My parents hated it and begged to be transferred.)


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: stinkfish on November 14, 2008, 04:44:54 pm
Are all racists white?


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Sunstroke on November 14, 2008, 04:55:30 pm
Are all racists white?

Please tell me this is a facetious question...I'm beggin' ya!



Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 14, 2008, 05:07:21 pm
Are all racists white?

Define racist. 

If you define racist very broadly, "any preconceived  notions about how a person might think or act based on the color of the other person's skin color" then I believe most people of every race are racist.  In fact under a broad definition any company that varies its marketing based on or to appeal to different demographics is conductions some sort of -ism. 

In fact bias and prejudice are natural are even necessary to survive.  I have a bias for grapefruits colored pinkish and against ones colored yellowish. 

If you define racist more narrowly, "that you overtly treat people of different skin colors differently" than I would say the number among all people, white, black and brown drops significantly.     




Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: stinkfish on November 14, 2008, 05:11:00 pm
Please tell me this is a facetious question...I'm beggin' ya!


;)
Don't forget that there's muted racism too.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: landlocked on November 14, 2008, 05:13:04 pm
Are all racists white?
I'm sure everyone of us has been treated poorly at one time or another because of our race.Hopefully we will someday move past this.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Sunstroke on November 14, 2008, 05:16:50 pm
If you define racist more narrowly, "that you overtly treat people of different skin colors differently" than I would say the number among all people, white, black and brown drops significantly.

But I don't think that white people are necessarily "more" racist than other ethnic groups, once you've pared the definition down from natural to offensive.

I have a bias for grapefruits colored pinkish and against ones colored yellowish. 

Citrus-bigotry just makes me sick...




Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: stinkfish on November 14, 2008, 05:20:47 pm
It's just a fact of life. There are going to be people of all colors that don't like people that look differently from themselves. It's something that we just have to expect, and live with.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 14, 2008, 05:25:33 pm
But I don't think that white people are necessarily "more" racist than other ethnic groups, once you've pared the definition down from natural to offensive.


I would agree. 


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on November 14, 2008, 06:34:47 pm
Let's see.........people in the klan shooting one another.........no big loss.

QFT


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Defense54 on November 15, 2008, 10:59:32 am
I have no tolerance for racists. Period.

Some of the most outspoken people on Sex crimes and sexual infidelity usually come from people that committed the acts themselves. I'm not saying you are immoral in that sense.............but I think you can see how that example effects you. You claim to have no tolerance for racists...........yet you engage in racist behavior here on a daily basis. Is it different because its reverse racism instead of white on black? Does that make it OK in your mind budda?   :|


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Defense54 on November 15, 2008, 11:05:17 am
Define racist. 

If you define racist very broadly, "any preconceived  notions about how a person might think or act based on the color of the other person's skin color" then I believe most people of every race are racist.  In fact under a broad definition any company that varies its marketing based on or to appeal to different demographics is conductions some sort of -ism. 

In fact bias and prejudice are natural are even necessary to survive.  I have a bias for grapefruits colored pinkish and against ones colored yellowish. 

If you define racist more narrowly, "that you overtly treat people of different skin colors differently" than I would say the number among all people, white, black and brown drops significantly.     





Excellent post.   Take the character of Archie Bunker.  Was Archie really a Racist?  It depends on your perception. If you were George Jefferson you would almost say yes. How ever to his daughter and son in law he was just ignorant.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: SCFinfan on November 15, 2008, 11:20:37 am
This is a terrible occurrence. That poor unfortunate woman.

I hate the Klan.

Resquiat en pacem.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Defense54 on November 15, 2008, 11:24:20 am
This is a terrible occurrence. That poor unfortunate woman.

I hate the Klan.

Resquiat en pacem.

While I wholeheartedly agree..........let us remember that the Klan itself is made up of people just like her.  Sad and lonely and looking for a place to belong. 


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: SCFinfan on November 15, 2008, 02:04:42 pm
While I wholeheartedly agree..........let us remember that the Klan itself is made up of people just like her.  Sad and lonely and looking for a place to belong. 

I have had the good luck to speak very briefly with a man named Daryl Davis. He is a black jazz musician who has also made it his life's work to befriend and, to some extent, change the minds of people who are members of/involved in the Klan. He is an inspiring figure to me, and I know that God is with him.

Nothing good has ever come from the evil organization known as the KKK, but that there are men in the world like Daryl Davis gives me hope that they will be nothing but a historical relic someday.

http://www.daryldavis.com/Author/Author.html

http://www.wolfmanproductions.com/ddavis.html


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Defense54 on November 15, 2008, 03:53:58 pm
^^^^ good post.   I think if you took the Klan apart person by person you would probably find some decent folk that just don't know any better. Education goes along way and hopefully as each generation of young people are brought up the amount of ignorance and hate will go continue to go down as it has.


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: run_to_win on November 15, 2008, 03:57:01 pm
Nothing good has ever come from the evil organization known as the KKK...
Nothing?  Not even this guy?
(http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/blog/robertbyrd)

 :D


Title: Re: Woman Killed After KKK Initiation
Post by: Defense54 on November 15, 2008, 04:24:45 pm
That guy has more skin under his head then a European penis.............