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Title: Who's the weak link in the secondary? Post by: Dave Gray on November 23, 2008, 11:25:13 pm Say we have the opportunity to draft a new CB or S, and they turn out to be a decent player, who drops off the list. It seems like everyone is getting their share of burned, but it has a lot to do with who they're matched up with. I don't expect Will Allen to hang with Randy Moss, but he might be a decent 2nd or 3rd corner, for example. But on this team, he's asked to cover #1 receivers a lot.
...and I guess we have to consider things like age. How do you rank our secondary, from best to worst? Title: Re: Who's the weak link in the secondary? Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on November 24, 2008, 07:58:28 am 1. Yeremiah Bell
2. Will Allen 3. Jason Allen 4. Andre Goodman 5. Renaldo Hill 6. Tyrone Culver 7. Courtney Bryan Am I missing anyone? Title: Re: Who's the weak link in the secondary? Post by: MaineDolFan on November 24, 2008, 08:23:29 am I don't know why everyone has a hard on for Bell.
He ain't that good. The entire secondary sucks. It really does. Title: Re: Who's the weak link in the secondary? Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on November 24, 2008, 08:33:37 am I don't know why everyone has a hard on for Bell. He ain't that good. The entire secondary sucks. It really does. He's still a playmaker. The best player on the worst unit of the team. Title: Re: Who's the weak link in the secondary? Post by: Defense54 on November 24, 2008, 09:09:22 am I don't know why everyone has a hard on for Bell. He ain't that good. The entire secondary sucks. It really does. It did today. But there were weeks that it blanketed the offense , like the game with Denver. I place Andre goodman and Will Allen as my Top 2 DB's.......That said I'd make corner back a priority in the off season. When you get DB's that can cover man to man it leaves the rest of the line and the middle linebackers to cover the run and the short passes. Thats how our defense did it with Sam Madison and Patrick Surtain. Thats why Zack Thomas became a Star. Title: Re: Who's the weak link in the secondary? Post by: Dave Gray on November 24, 2008, 12:30:29 pm Our D Line isn't getting pressure. That's bad.
When you give guys time to throw against this secondary, they're going to get eaten alive. A lot of time, the coverage was good, by traditional standards, but Cassel had 10 days to throw and was able to put the the perfect ball down, despite the coverage. Title: Re: Who's the weak link in the secondary? Post by: NADS on November 24, 2008, 12:31:33 pm He's still a playmaker. The best player on the worst unit of the team. Bell is the best safety. Too bad he's leading the team in tackles. 1. Will Allen - best cover skills 2. Bell - see Tommy's comments 3. Jason Allen - does well, don't expect him to cover Moss 4. Goodman - hot and cold, better recently 5. Renaldo Hill - consistently late to the party I don't know enough about the others but Renaldo Hill pisses me off on a regular basis. I'm still pissed about the 4th & 13 Favre threw in game one...where the fuck was Hill going? I'm glad we cut the kid from Marshall, #20, don't remember the name. http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80a9ecc9 Play in question starts about 2:14. Video says it's Bell but it's ole #24. Title: Re: Who's the weak link in the secondary? Post by: fyo on November 25, 2008, 12:04:58 pm I really don't know what to think of Goodman. He's really good at covering a receiver, but his weaknesses are huge and glaring (open field tackling and getting faked out).
Title: Re: Who's the weak link in the secondary? Post by: BigDaddyFin on November 25, 2008, 10:19:26 pm Bell is an adequate strong safety. Will Allen is good but he looks like he's losing a step. His instincts are still there but I have to believe if he was younger, at least one of those balls he broke on early against New England would have been pick 6's. If it was up to me I'd replace both corners and then see if Jason Allen can handle free safety.
Of course, when you have little to no pass rush like we had against New England, it doesn't do your secondary any favors either. We need to get better that's for damn sure. |