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The Sporting News has given the top award to John Wooden. When compiling a greatest ever list of anything it is tough to make sure everyone is represented accurately. I like the list for the most part but I think Bill Walsh is rated too low. Anyone else see anything you might change?

1. John Wooden, college basketball
2. Vince Lombardi, NFL
3. Bear Bryant, college football
4. Phil Jackson, NBA
5. Don Shula, NFL
6. Red Auerbach, NBA
7. Scotty Bowman, NHL
8. Dean Smith, college basketball
9. Casey Stengel, MLB
10. Knute Rockne, college football
11. Pat Summitt, women's college basketball
12. Paul Brown, NFL
13. Joe Paterno, college football
14. George Halas, NFL
15. Chuck Noll, NFL
16. Bob Knight, college basketball
17. Joe Gibbs, NFL
18. Tom Landry, NFL
19. Mike Krzyzewski, college basketball
20. Bill Belichick, NFL
21. Adolph Rupp, college basketball
22. Joe McCarthy, MLB
23. Eddie Robinson, college football
24. Bobby Bowden, college football
25. John McGraw, MLB
26. Bill Walsh, NFL
27. Woody Hayes, college football
28. Connie Mack, MLB
29. Bud Wilkinson, college football
30. Pat Riley, NBA
31. Pete Newell, college basketball
32. Joe Torre, MLB
33. Bill Parcells, NFL
34. Tom Osborne, college football
35. Walter Alston, MLB
36. Bo Schembechler, college football
37. Toe Blake, NHL
38. Sparky Anderson, MLB
39. Al Arbour, NHL
40. Amos Alonzo Stagg, college football
41. Tony La Russa, MLB
42. Geno Auriemma, women's college basketball
43. Dick Irvin, NHL
44. Ara Parseghian, college football
45. Chuck Daly, NBA
46. Bobby Cox, MLB
47. Hank Iba, college basketball
48. Tommy Lasorda, MLB
49. Gregg Popovich, NBA
50. Herb Brooks, NHL

Sparky Anderson's niece used to work with my dad. She was cool.

It irks me that Phil Jackson is above Red Auerback

HAHA, the Celtics can bite it.

I think Bill Walsh should be higher on that list as well. I consider him one of the ten greatest coaches in sports history.

Bobby Bowden is rated higher than Bill Walsh? You've gotta be kidding me.

At the risk of really pissing off some Dolphins fans...I don't think Don Shula belongs in the top-5 on this list either.

Connie Mack should be higher on the list I think. 

Herb Brooks belongs on the list....but not with NHL next to his name.  He had a losing record in the NHL. 

^^^ He coached two of the best USA hockey teams.

And he was a winning college coach.  But he sucked in the NHL.  Just "hockey", or "olympic hockey" should be next to his name, not NHL. 

Joe Gibbs I don't think belongs there, but that's more of my opinion than based on fact. 

Any coach about whom the following was said belongs (in my opinion):

"He can take his'n and beat your'n, and he can take your'n and beat his'n" - Bum Phillips

I think Bill Walsh is accurately placed.

I'm not sure I would put Belichick so far above Parcells.  As a head coach, Parcells has only one less ring, and has consistently shown an ability to create chicken salad from chicken sh*t (with 4 different franchises).  Belichick did well with NE but was unimpressive with CLE.

Do you define coach solely as a head coach then you may be right. 

If you access based on all their coaching then it is justified.  The Giants were not a balanced team, they won on great defenses, for both of Parcells rings the defense was coached by Belichick. While it is correct to say that "As a head coach, Parcells has only one less ring"  it is equally correct to say that "as a coach Belichick has three more rings than Parcells."

You do realize they were a top 10 offense as well. They were a bit more balanced than you imply while trying to make your point.

In '86 they were top 10, but a lot of that had to do with great field position which comes from a solid defense.

'90
Scored 335 points (20.9/g), 15th of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 211 points (13.2/g), 1st.

Middle of the pack. 


 

This is why I hate these lists because they do nothing but piss me off.

First of all - this makes no sense to combine the sports like this.

Bill Walsh was the F'ing MAN. #26 - are you smoking crack? He's an absolute genius football coach - a man that in my opinion is STILL ahead of his time, even today. Hopefully in some years people will start to give him the proper credit he deserves. This is a complete, total, utter outrage to me that the Sporting News should publicly apologize for. #26. He made Joe Montana, who was a back-up at Notre Dame. The fact that he took a QB from Notre Dame and that QB won a meaningful game of any kind should be enough to vault you into the top 10 alone...let alone RE-INVENTING THE ENTIRE GAME OF FOOTBALL...Bill Walsh's team was STILL good with assistant running the team several years after he left...

This list has no consistency to it. They clearly put Don Shula up there because of his total # of wins, but then Bobby Knight with his 800+ college NBA wins is #16, George halas at #14, and Pat Summit - 1,000+ freaking wins - #11.

Joe Paterno at #13 is way too high. Joe Paterno is quite possibly the most over-rated coach in the history of sports. All of his players suck in the NFL, his team sucks year in and year out (I even forgot about Penn State - what have they ever done - ever??), and he's one thousand years old and no-one has the guts to fire him after mediocre performances year in and year out. Joe Paterno is that much better than Bill Walsh? F*ck off.

Red Auerbach - People bitch about Phil Jackson having Michael Jordan and Shaq, but how soon they forget that Auerbach had...well...EVERYONE who is an icon in basketball. Bill Russell and John Havlicheck (Havlicheck STOLE THE BALL!!!!!)..enough said. So it's appropriate that Phil Jackson is ahead of Red Auerbach because Phil has now done it with three different "teams" (MJ's team, Shaq's team, Kobe's team) if you follow that.

Bobby Bowden - i don't even understand how he's a college football coach to begin with. You know the movie "The Waterboy"? Bowden reminds me of the "bad" coach in that movie that stole his assistant's green playbook to be good...a total hillbilly with a pea-sized brain.

I can handle Paul Brown, Don Shula, George Halas, Chuck Knoll, and .... MAYBE ... Joe Gibbs ahead of Bill Belichick....but Tom Landry is not even in the same league as Belichick...those Cowboy teams were not all that great and continued to get whooped by the Steelers every time...they only won super bowls when they played shitty ass Denver or Don Shula's Dolphins.

They left off Dick Baldwin, the second winningest college basketball coach of all time (between Dean Smith and Adolph Rupp).

Smith has been passed and is no longer number one. As for Dick Baldwin, the list also left off my Pop Warner coach. The guy was unstoppable.