Title: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Defense54 on September 22, 2009, 12:46:46 am I know I mentioned it in several threads tonight..........but he actually deserves a thread dedicated to his suckiness. Channing Crowder is a barely average Middle Linebacker. Tonight he played way Under average. Long gone are the days when we had a Lion covering sideline to sideline ..........someone who watched Game Tape and knew the offenseive plays before they happened. Someone who rarely missed a Tackle . Channing Crowder should be ashamed of himself. This admin put alot of trust and faith into him. They stepped up and Paid the Man. What I've seen of him makes me sick. At least when Joey Porter talks smack he backs it up.
Crowder is a JOKE. One of the Number one reasons we lost the game is because of his inability to read a play and make a Tackle. Fucking pathetic and sad. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Tenshot13 on September 22, 2009, 12:49:20 am The only play I saw him miss was the long first down that Clark made. If anyone deserves their own thread it's Akin or Wilson. Did I miss something else?
Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: ethurst22 on September 22, 2009, 01:06:31 am From what I saw, Crowder was supposed to jam the TE coming across the middle. Clark on Crowder was a mismatch and close to pre-meditated murder.
Crowder is NO Zach Thomas. He's a decent linebacker but he gets out of position too much. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Defense54 on September 22, 2009, 01:10:56 am The only play I saw him miss was the long first down that Clark made. If anyone deserves their own thread it's Akin or Wilson. Did I miss something else? Guess you missed the touchdown at the end of the first half that allowed the RB to walk it in? Distgusting. Zack at this stage of his life would still be a huge upgrade. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Tenshot13 on September 22, 2009, 02:24:56 am Guess you missed the touchdown at the end of the first half that allowed the RB to walk it in? Distgusting. Zack at this stage of his life would still be a huge upgrade. No, you're right...I saw that too...I also saw about 3 other Dolphins miss tackles on Donald Brown. I'm not making excuses for the guy, he should have made the play...put the other guys should have too. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: dolfan13 on September 22, 2009, 09:35:42 am crowder is the same thing we have always seen, an okay linebacker nothing special. you can't dump on him too bad for letting the tight end run wild. that is a designed matchup that the tight end will always win. what he needs in those plays is freaking SAFETY help over the top.
the reason why this team is soooooo damn soft in the middle is lack of a true free safety that can hit and cover well. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Defense54 on September 22, 2009, 10:02:29 am I agree with the above.......maybe Zack just spoliled me. When he made contact with somebody they went down. Channing is fast but he misses way too much IMO. I think he's a half second off because he doesn't prepare as well as Zack did. Looks like he's winging it.
Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Doc-phin on September 22, 2009, 11:13:50 am Crowder really did miss a lot of plays out there. I won't point out everything he messed up on because he was out of position on most plays. He also looks a lot slower than last year. Maybe our off season training program is great for building strength, but our guys look slow. Pair that with being out of position and you got disaster.
Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Defense54 on September 22, 2009, 12:31:04 pm Going back to the early 90's we only had 2 starting Middle linbackers , Zach thomas and Bryan Cox besides Crowder. say what you want about Cox.......he backed up his mouth. I think crowder is a Huge weakness in this defense. A gapping whole that needs to be addressed.
Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: JVides on September 22, 2009, 01:10:03 pm I think Crowder is a nice piece, but if he's not a run stopper (not many plays behind the line of scrimmage, ever), and he's not a great pass defender, and he's not a pass rusher, then what the hell is he?
Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: dolfan13 on September 22, 2009, 01:39:04 pm he's just an average, run-of-the-mill, middle linebacker. isn't going to make any impact plays, and isn't good in pass coverage.
i think he'll do, although they are paying him some good cash. the make-up of this team just needs an exceptional free safety. otherwise the middle linebacker's deficiencies are magnified. gabril wilson signing is looking terrible 2 games into this season. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Doc-phin on September 22, 2009, 02:42:59 pm gabril wilson signing is looking terrible 2 games into this season. Well, my question when we signed him appears to be answered. It appears Wilson appears is a strong safety and not a free safety. We have 2 strong safeties on the field at the same time. This could be a long season. Can you believe it that we might actually have to concede that keeping Jason Allen at free safety may have been the best move for our team. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on September 22, 2009, 03:43:16 pm Well, my question when we signed him appears to be answered. It appears Wilson appears is a strong safety and not a free safety. We have 2 strong safeties on the field at the same time. This could be a long season. Can you believe it that we might actually have to concede that keeping Jason Allen at free safety may have been the best move for our team. Jason Allen is also more suited to strong safety. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Doc-phin on September 22, 2009, 04:33:31 pm Jason Allen is also more suited to strong safety. I think he can play both. He is physical, but he is fast enough to cover. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Defense54 on September 22, 2009, 04:41:48 pm I think Crowder is a nice piece, but if he's not a run stopper (not many plays behind the line of scrimmage, ever), and he's not a great pass defender, and he's not a pass rusher, then what the hell is he? I don't know WTF he is. But Zack made up for his physical deficiencies by watching Tape and knowing what they were doing with the ball before the ball was snapped. He flew to the ball, and made tackles that stuck. I don't know what Crowders job is on this defense , but I know players fly by him untouched. He always looks confused. Parcells can't be happy with any of this shit. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: JVides on September 22, 2009, 04:47:56 pm ^^^I just think that the whole point of having three 300 pound linemen out there (Langford and Merling could probably slide in to play D-tackle on lighter teams like the Colts) is that these guys eat up blockers so the inside 'backers can get in there and disrupt. Making all your tackles 3-7 yards downfield makes you an average guy, a JAG (just another guy). I'm not necessarily down on Crowder *cough*GATORSSUCKINTHENFL*cough* but he needs to start making game-changing plays.
Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: gocowboys31 on September 23, 2009, 06:49:11 pm Crowder is a gator, but the way he flaps his gums you'd think he was ray lewis. He just needs to shut up.
Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: BigDaddyFin on September 24, 2009, 02:47:41 am The fact that he runs his mouth and then gets embarrassed like that is bad enough. I'm not sold on Ayodele either. I think our new draft board is going to look like this next year.
ILB FS (or both) OLB WR Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: JVides on September 24, 2009, 09:56:51 am Crowder is a gator, but the way he flaps his gums you'd think he was ray lewis. He just needs to shut up. Or back it up. I'd really settle for back it up. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Defense54 on September 25, 2009, 03:13:06 pm Yep......remember all that Rex Ryan crap during the off season? Guess who's laughing now? ::)
Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: NADS on September 30, 2009, 11:14:36 pm The fact that he runs his mouth and then gets embarrassed like that is bad enough. I'm not sold on Ayodele either. I think our new draft board is going to look like this next year. ILB FS (or both) OLB WR Word. Decent run support, but can't run well enough to keep up with subpar TEs. Yeremiah Bell looks like he'll be the leading tackler again this year. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: bsfins on October 01, 2009, 03:24:40 pm I felt like Ayodele was a nice move as a stop gap,and did a good job as a stop gap....The Thinking being ok, we draft another guy to be our playmaker to replace both Crowder and Ayodele....2 drafts...no replacement yet......resigned the P.O.S. Crowder..... ??? Even worse we bring back Tayor,to make both our OLB's even older....
Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: JVides on October 01, 2009, 05:11:03 pm I felt like Ayodele was a nice move as a stop gap,and did a good job as a stop gap....The Thinking being ok, we draft another guy to be our playmaker to replace both Crowder and Ayodele....2 drafts...no replacement yet......resigned the P.O.S. Crowder..... ??? Even worse we bring back Tayor,to make both our OLB's even older.... Yeah, I see linebacker heavy drafts coming. Then again, Cameron Wake's young, Matt Roth's young (if he ever suits up again), so maybe OLB is set for the future. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on October 01, 2009, 05:12:08 pm Yeah, I see linebacker heavy drafts coming. Then again, Cameron Wake's young, Matt Roth's young (if he ever suits up again), so maybe OLB is set for the future. Matt Roth and Channing Crowder are the same age.... and we can do a lot better at LB then those two. Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: bsfins on October 01, 2009, 05:19:01 pm Isn't Matt Roth in the last year of his rookie deal? err wait uncapped year..maybe not...Lol
Wake's 27, then there's Quentin Moses....I've lost alot of faith in Moses doing anything really....Charlie Anderson's 27 also Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: Defense54 on October 05, 2009, 08:57:33 am Crowder had a better game this weekend. I wonder if thats what helped boost the secondary....... ::)
Title: Re: Channing Crowder...... Post by: dolfan13 on October 05, 2009, 11:58:45 am crowder played a good game... first time i can remember in a long time him making plays behind the line of scrimmage.
i think the consistent pass rush the dolphins d was getting helped the secondary more than anything else. |