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Title: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: raptorsfan29 on December 21, 2009, 08:44:41 am
Do we try to draft a #1 WR next season, or go after a #1 in Free agency.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: fyo on December 21, 2009, 08:54:12 am
Ask Matt Millen about the virtues of drafting receivers in the first round.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: JVides on December 21, 2009, 10:34:38 am
Any chance Andre johnson becomes disgruntled and demands a trade?  All the talent, none ofthe diva.

I'd go the draft route AND pick up a vet.  Let the vet play while the Rook learns.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: Brian Fein on December 21, 2009, 12:04:44 pm
What WR do you see coming out of this draft that can play in the Calvin Johnson mold?  I don't know that there is one in this draft class...


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: Sunstroke on December 21, 2009, 12:31:24 pm

There isn't a "#1 overall candidate" caliber WR in this draft, but I think there are a number of quality WRs that could become #1 WRs in an NFL system, and some that will likely be very good #2 WRs. I'd like to see Miami keep its focus away from WRs in rd 1, and look to that position in rd 2 or 3. I really would like to see Miami take a monster defensive front seven guy, either MLB, NT or DE with their mid first rounder.



Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: bsfins on December 21, 2009, 01:22:31 pm
We lack Wr's that will go get the ball,fight for the ball,(on a consistant basis,Bess does do it)we've been missing those for years....NO Way in Hell I want to go the free agent route...No T.O.,No Vincent Jackson,No to Boldin...Probably wouldn't use anything Higher than a 3rd rounder on WR...Definately not a 1st rounder....


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: Brian Fein on December 21, 2009, 02:12:56 pm
I've heard rumblings (from fans, of course) that the Fins could be looking at Brandon Spikes in round 1 and possibly a value WR in round 2.  I wonder where Dez Bryant falls in the draft...


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 21, 2009, 03:09:37 pm
I've heard rumblings (from fans, of course) that the Fins could be looking at Brandon Spikes in round 1 and possibly a value WR in round 2.  I wonder where Dez Bryant falls in the draft...

If he has a good showing at his school Pro Day and the Scouting Combine, he'll go in the first round.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: Denver_Bronco on December 21, 2009, 03:38:14 pm
Hands off Brandon Marshall.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 21, 2009, 05:52:25 pm
Hands off Brandon Marshall.

He's a UCF guy so he is coming home, no matter what it takes.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 21, 2009, 06:00:57 pm
They're probably better off addressing it in free agency or trade than they are in the draft.  Don't get me wrong they may find a steal in the later rounds, but if we're playing simple probability and outcome, the draft's not the way to go this year.

I don't know that we need much at the WR position even though they are "much maligned."  Hartline is just beginning to tap his potential and I actually think Ginn can still improve, Bess has nothing but upside in his future and Camarillo is a solid possession guy. 

As much as I love Ronnie Brown and this borders on heresy, they may want to consider drafting a running back before they go get another receiver. 

I think we'd be much better off drafting NT, OLB, ILB or FS than anything on the offensive side of the ball next year.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: ethurst22 on December 21, 2009, 06:44:38 pm
They're probably better off addressing it in free agency or trade than they are in the draft.  Don't get me wrong they may find a steal in the later rounds, but if we're playing simple probability and outcome, the draft's not the way to go this year.

I don't know that we need much at the WR position even though they are "much maligned."  Hartline is just beginning to tap his potential and I actually think Ginn can still improve, Bess has nothing but upside in his future and Camarillo is a solid possession guy. 

As much as I love Ronnie Brown and this borders on heresy, they may want to consider drafting a running back before they go get another receiver. 

I think we'd be much better off drafting NT, OLB, ILB or FS than anything on the offensive side of the ball next year.

This is a great observation. I think they go after a running back due to Ricky being 32 and Brown being injury prone.

Unless Hilliard does something on special teams, he'll be gone. The guy has really disappointed me after I rallied for him. He hasn't done anything and it appears that he runs with his eyes closed.

I would take a receiver in the later rounds. Seems to me that guys in the later rounds are hungrier to prove they belong.

I'd keep Ginn as a kick returner.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 21, 2009, 06:52:36 pm
In the draft this year, I see the phins going with one of the following guys in the first round.  I ranked them on who I would like to see drafted.  Anyone other than these guys drafted, I'll be shocked.

1.  Terrance Cody, NT, Alabama

2.  Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee

3.  Rolando McClain, MLB, Alabama

4.  Damien Williams, WR, USC

5.  Brandon Spikes, MLB, Florida

I would be happy with any of these guys, except maybe Brandon Spikes.  The guy has all the talent in the world, but he seems to disappear at times.  The only WR I would want to spend a 1st rounder on is Damien Williams.  I've seen a few guys compare him to Jimmy Smith, who was a beast when he played in Jacksonville.  Our best bet is to land someone in the 2nd round like Arrelious Benn from Illinois, Golden Tate from Notre Dame, or hope Brandon LaFell, LSU  falls to us (although unlikely he'll still be around by our 2nd round pick).  

There is also the possibility of drafting Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech in the third, who has fantastic size (6-3, 229 lbs), but is a little on the slow side (4.6 forty), and does not have good route running.  He'd be a project, which wouldn't help us next year.  

Right now, I see Damien Williams and Golden Tate as the only WRs in this draft that could make an immediate impact in the NFL.  

As far as free agents go, I would be happy to have Brandon Marshall, Vincent Jackson, Miles Austin, Antonio Bryant (although not likely), or Malcolm Floyd.  Then we could take a chance in the later rounds at WR who has good measurables, and have them learn behind a proven veteran.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: masterfins on December 22, 2009, 11:41:39 am
Parcells needs to do his homework and draft a quality receiver in the 2nd or 3rd round, forget about the prima donna's that go in the first round.  The only first rounders I like are lineman; QB's, RB's, and WR's all end up being expensive crapshoots.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 22, 2009, 12:39:58 pm
^^^^^^

I agree that we need to beef up the trenches and the front seven based on all the injuries.  Parcells likes big nasty nose tackles and ferociously fast pass rushing linebackers. 


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: dolphinfamily on December 22, 2009, 01:16:39 pm
I think more then a reciver we need a play making big play making tight end. A nice saftey net  for a young QB is a big tight end. A  kellen winslow type if we could find one.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 22, 2009, 10:39:53 pm
^^^^^This would be nice, however, tightends like that are nearly impossible to come by and normally suck as blockers, not a very good fit for a team that may run the wildcat on a regular basis. 

In a perfect world, the Mark Bavaro type would be a perfect fit, serviceable in-line blocker, great reciever, and would have the same effect as getting a great WR.


Title: Re: How to we address the WR situation next season
Post by: FINFAN4LIFE on December 29, 2009, 06:45:01 pm
I for one do not favor a first pick for WR this year, there is much more important positions to be filled at RB or on defense(if only Suh was available for us-perchance to dream). Bess and Hartline have a big upside potential and Ginn(although I cringed like many at that draft announcement) is still developing nicely as is Greg C. Although I agree we don't have a #1 type Larry Fitz or Randy Moss as we need right now I think we should try to find a diamond in the rough in the 2nd or even 3rd round pick. A great running back will free up our already decent receiving corps with the real threat of the play-action passing attack. And with so many teams adopting and adapting to the wildcat offense a West Coast attack might be more effective in the long run.