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Title: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Dave Gray on December 28, 2009, 03:15:34 am Even though it happened well before I was alive, I like that the Dolphins are the only team to have done it. I'm glad the Colts lost today and think that it really shows how tough it is to pull it off. In order to go undefeated, you have to risk wearing yourself out, and take everyone's best shot, every week.
Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 28, 2009, 06:31:11 am Introducing your one and only 1972 Miami Dolphins!!!!!!
(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PTGPOD/870910~Champagne-Cork-Popping-Posters.jpg) AFTER ALL THESE YEARS........STILL PERFECT!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: hordman on December 28, 2009, 08:35:09 am I have to agree with you Dave. I have been a Phins since I can remember (I was born in 1970), but obviously I don't remember the SB wins since I was too young. I was about 6-7 yrs old when I got to rooting for the Phins. my family is from Miami Springs and then we moved to Central PA. (where I have to hear these damn Stillers fans)
It's an important feat to have accomplished an undefeated sesaon and it should be talked about, plus I love to hear them bring it up every year. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/dolphins/2002-11-25-perfect-season_x.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/dolphins/2002-11-25-perfect-season_x.htm) Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Brian Fein on December 28, 2009, 10:32:12 am The Colts probably could have done it. They let the Jets win, and they would have demolished Buffalo next week.
I am disappointed in the Colts. I woulda liked to see them make a run for it. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: ethurst22 on December 28, 2009, 11:07:33 am I attended some games during that 72 season but I'm getting tired of hearing about it.
Its a storybook feat. Starting QB gets knocked out and the backup takes Miami to the AFC Championship Game where they beat the Steelers on the road 21-17 then they win the Super Bowl. But the 73 team was the most powerful Dolphin squad ever assembled. Miami is 2-5 in Super Bowls. I'd rather have won some of those Super Bowls. As a kid, I'm thinking that Miami was going to win at least two more Super Bowls in the 1970's. That's just how good they were until the Sea of Hands playoff game out in Oakland. For people that think that the Dolphins fourth quarter collapses are just a recent thing, you can point back to the Sea of Hands game. They have a tradition of collapsing in the 4th quarter. It became a part of Miamis' heritage. The last time Miami won something was in 1973 which was 36 years ago. When I look at New England today, who has surpassed Miami in Super Bowl victories, I laugh because Miami would beat down the Pats back then like a stepchild. If the NFL doesn't go to an 18 game schedule, someone is going to do it(go undefeated). I think that free agency and player movement will allow for it to happen sooner or later and when it does, it will be more of an occurence. Just like in college football years back, undefeated seasons were rare but now its easy to have an undefeated season in college football. Great accomplishment but its been 36 years. I'd rather have the Super Bowls. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Spider-Dan on December 28, 2009, 11:51:04 am Great accomplishment but its been 36 years. I'd rather have the Super Bowls. I wouldn't.There are two other teams with 5 Super Bowls (there's one other team that's 5-0). There is a third team with 6 Super Bowls. There is only one undefeated champion. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: ethurst22 on December 28, 2009, 11:54:21 am I wouldn't. There are two other teams with 5 Super Bowls (there's one other team that's 5-0). There is a third team with 6 Super Bowls. There is only one undefeated champion. So Spider-Dan, if you had to make a deal with God or Satan (whomever), you would pick an undefeated season over six Super Bowl trophies? Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Spider-Dan on December 28, 2009, 12:18:55 pm Pretty much.
I think we have a better chance of getting to 6 Super Bowl wins (eventually) than another team does of going undefeated. If NE in 2007 couldn't do it, it's not going to happen. That was the perfect storm of team with multiple recent titles, pathetic division, ridiculous offseason acquisitions, and (most importantly) asshole coach that's accountable to no one, and they still couldn't do it. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Denver_Bronco on December 28, 2009, 12:25:08 pm The only ones who give 2 shits about the 72 team are the 72 team and the Dolphin fans, because its the only thing they've had in their existence.
Beyond that Indy took a huge dump on the 72 team and what they meant yesterday when they decided to roll over and deem their record not even relevant to attempt breaking. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Spider-Dan on December 28, 2009, 12:35:28 pm NO cared about it... before they lost.
NE cared about it... before they lost. I'm pretty sure DEN cared about it in '98... before they lost. It's obvious the media cares about it. "Those grapes are most sour... I am certain of it!" Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Frimp on December 28, 2009, 12:35:45 pm The only ones who give 2 shits about the 72 team are the 72 team and the Dolphin fans, because its the only thing they've had in their existence. Beyond that Indy took a huge dump on the 72 team and what they meant yesterday when they decided to roll over and deem their record not even relevant to attempt breaking. The Colts have to win the Super Bowl for that to be the case in the long run. If not, they finish with 2, maybe 3 losses. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Denver_Bronco on December 28, 2009, 01:13:04 pm NO cared about it... before they lost. Nobody cares after New England won more games in their year then Miami did. The 'record' has already been broken as far as I'm concerned. Maybe we should have the 72 fins come back and play 2 more games and see if they can win them both.NE cared about it... before they lost. I'm pretty sure DEN cared about it in '98... before they lost. It's obvious the media cares about it. "Those grapes are most sour... I am certain of it!" Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Spider-Dan on December 28, 2009, 02:03:11 pm Nobody cares after New England won more games in their year then Miami did. The 'record' has already been broken as far as I'm concerned. Then perhaps somebody should have informed both the Saints (who stated, point-blank, that their goal was to make history) and the media, who has made a big deal of both the Saints and Colts.If people really didn't care, we wouldn't have pooh-poohers standing on soapboxes screaming, "Nobody cares anymore, shut up about it!" It's like the cop standing in front of the wreck saying "Nothing to see here, move along," when the fact is that there is something to see there; if there wasn't, he wouldn't need to be telling people to move along. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: jtex316 on December 28, 2009, 02:10:35 pm It's a rare occurrence to go undefeated, but it's going to happen. There has been an undefeated run pretty much every year this decade by the Colts or Saints or Pats or Titans or whomever. It will happen eventually, and then the 1972 team won't be original anymore.
Dolphins fans care because it is their gold standard - the only thing that makes them unique and different. Once that goes away, the cold hard reality will set in that the team hasn't done shit in almost 40 years. That's about as bad as the Detroit Lions or the Cleveland Browns. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Denver_Bronco on December 28, 2009, 02:11:43 pm Then perhaps somebody should have informed both the Saints (who stated, point-blank, that their goal was to make history) and the media, who has made a big deal of both the Saints and Colts. The Saints are notorious for being one of most losing-est franchises in football. That's the only reason it was such a big deal to them.Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: ethurst22 on December 28, 2009, 02:14:58 pm Nobody cares after New England won more games in their year then Miami did. The 'record' has already been broken as far as I'm concerned. Maybe we should have the 72 fins come back and play 2 more games and see if they can win them both. Okay DB, you're not making sense. It's all about the "0" in the last game. Whether it's a 14 game season or 16 game season, its about the "0". The 72 Dolphins had to go to a rowdy Three Rivers Stadium to play the Steelers in the 72 AFC Championship Game. That atmosphere was complete bedlam and they won. The Dolphins were not picked to win Super Bowl 7. A team with a perfect record in the NFL is going to be home all through the playoffs. That wasn't the case with the 72 Dolphins. The AFC/NFC championship games rotated each year and the lot fell on the AFC Central division. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: bsmooth on December 28, 2009, 03:05:23 pm It's a rare occurrence to go undefeated, but it's going to happen. There has been an undefeated run pretty much every year this decade by the Colts or Saints or Pats or Titans or whomever. It will happen eventually, and then the 1972 team won't be original anymore. Dolphins fans care because it is their gold standard - the only thing that makes them unique and different. Once that goes away, the cold hard reality will set in that the team hasn't done shit in almost 40 years. That's about as bad as the Detroit Lions or the Cleveland Browns. Wow you must really be hard up to be trolling this bad. Just man up and go out and get a hooker to rub one out for you and spare us all your pent up angst over your crappy team choking and your hatred of all things female. Thanks. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Brian Fein on December 28, 2009, 03:07:13 pm The people in this thread making the biggest noise about going undefeated:
jtex316 - Giants' fan Denver_Bronco - Broncos' fan If you stop talking about it, it wouldn't be talked about. You guys keep bringing it up, not us. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Tenshot13 on December 28, 2009, 03:38:44 pm Back to the topic at hand, I care about the '72 season as well. Even though it was well before my time, it's something to be proud of for you team to accomplish.
Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 28, 2009, 04:13:05 pm Okay DB, you're not making sense. It's all about the "0" in the last game. Whether it's a 14 game season or 16 game season, its about the "0". The 72 Dolphins had to go to a rowdy Three Rivers Stadium to play the Steelers in the 72 AFC Championship Game. That atmosphere was complete bedlam and they won. The Dolphins were not picked to win Super Bowl 7. A team with a perfect record in the NFL is going to be home all through the playoffs. That wasn't the case with the 72 Dolphins. The AFC/NFC championship games rotated each year and the lot fell on the AFC Central division. So that's why the Dolphins had to go on the road with a better record. I've been trying to figure out why the Dolphins had to play in Pitt despite having a better record. So there was no Home Field Advantage throughout the playoffs back then. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 28, 2009, 06:18:13 pm It's a rare occurrence to go undefeated, but it's going to happen. There has been an undefeated run pretty much every year this decade by the Colts or Saints or Pats or Titans or whomever. It will happen eventually, and then the 1972 team won't be original anymore. Dolphins fans care because it is their gold standard - the only thing that makes them unique and different. Once that goes away, the cold hard reality will set in that the team hasn't done shit in almost 40 years. That's about as bad as the Detroit Lions or the Cleveland Browns. Maybe or maybe not. But the '72 Dolphins hold another record that is certain to never be broken, no team has ever had a weaker SOS than that team, and the way the schedules are done nowadays it is almost impossible for anyteam to even come close. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Spider-Dan on December 28, 2009, 07:11:09 pm Dolphins fans care because it is their gold standard - the only thing that makes them unique and different. Once that goes away, the cold hard reality will set in that the team hasn't done shit in almost 40 years. That's about as bad as the Detroit Lions or the Cleveland Browns. Or the Arizona Cardinals, Atlanta Falcons, Buffalo Bills, Cincinnati Bengals, Kansas City Chiefs, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, New York Jets, Philadelphia Eagles, San Diego Chargers, Seattle Seahawks, or Tennessee Titans. And all of those teams have less Super Bowl wins than Miami.But none of those teams (or any of the other unlisted teams) have an undefeated championship season. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Spider-Dan on December 28, 2009, 07:19:33 pm Maybe or maybe not. Wrong.But the '72 Dolphins hold another record that is certain to never be broken, no team has ever had a weaker SOS than that team, and the way the schedules are done nowadays it is almost impossible for anyteam to even come close. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3161854 Quote [Miami's] opponents were 70-122, a .367 percentage that was topped only by the 1975 Minnesota Vikings and the 1999 St. Louis Rams. Funny how you don't see people complain about the win .pct of the teams that the Greatest Show on Turf beat.Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: hordman on December 28, 2009, 09:48:45 pm So that's why the Dolphins had to go on the road with a better record. I've been trying to figure out why the Dolphins had to play in Pitt despite having a better record. So there was no Home Field Advantage throughout the playoffs back then. just to follow up on that rotation: In those days, the sites of the conference championship games were part of a rotation system among the three divisions and not tied to regular season records. The AFC East had been the host in 1971, and the Dolphins played at home. In 1972, it was the AFC Central and so the game was at Three Rivers Stadium. ......and still, the only Undefeated Team in the history of the NFL, the 1972 Miami Dolphins! (http://www.logoserver.com/football/MiamiDolphinsPerfectSeason.GIF) Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: ethurst22 on December 28, 2009, 09:53:15 pm So that's why the Dolphins had to go on the road with a better record. I've been trying to figure out why the Dolphins had to play in Pitt despite having a better record. So there was no Home Field Advantage throughout the playoffs back then. If you got to the AFC Championship before they changed the format in 1975, home field didn't mean much: "At the end of each football season, a series of playoff games involving the top six teams in the AFC are conducted, consisting of the four division champions and two wild card teams. The two teams remaining play in the AFC Championship game. Since the 1975-76 season, the site of the AFC Championship has been based on playoff seeding. The surviving club with the highest initial seeding in the playoffs hosts the game. A wild card team can not host the game unless both participants are wild cards. Before 1975-76, the site of the game was determined on a rotating basis." Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: ethurst22 on December 28, 2009, 09:54:06 pm just to follow up on that rotation: In those days, the sites of the conference championship games were part of a rotation system among the three divisions and not tied to regular season records. The AFC East had been the host in 1971, and the Dolphins played at home. In 1972, it was the AFC Central and so the game was at Three Rivers Stadium. ......and still, the only Undefeated Team in the history of the NFL, the 1972 Miami Dolphins! (http://www.logoserver.com/football/MiamiDolphinsPerfectSeason.GIF) Totally correct. We must have been posting at the same time! Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: hordman on December 28, 2009, 09:55:50 pm Totally correct. We must have been posting at the same time! That's funny....I just stepped in my house from a high school basketball and was reading the boards! ;D Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: ethurst22 on December 28, 2009, 09:57:43 pm Where is fyo, our numbers cruncher? What I would like to see is the beginning of the year SOS average and then the final SOS average for this season concerning the Dolphins.
Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: hordman on December 28, 2009, 10:01:05 pm back to '72 Miami Dolphins.......anyone been to the Mercury Morris site lately and ordered anything? I was getting ready to order the navy blue shirt below
(http://www.mercurymorris22.com/pictures/wear_shirt_navy.jpg) anyone have problems from the site or problems with the merchandise? you can use Paypal to pay, which I love and was getting ready to pull the trigger on this sweet shirt. Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Frimp on December 28, 2009, 10:46:25 pm I care about it to a degree. I'm didn't root for the Jaguars vs the Colts just because of the undefeated season. I rooted for the Colts because at the time, a Colts win over Jax helped Miami with the playoff picture.
Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: StL FinFan on December 29, 2009, 12:34:52 am I also care to a degree. I am proud that the Dolphins have the only undefeated season, but if the Colts or the Saints had done it, I would not have been particularly upset by it.
Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: Brian Fein on December 29, 2009, 11:07:27 am I would have cared much less had the Colts or Saints done it than if the Patriots had done it...
Title: Re: I still care about the 72 team. Post by: FINFAN4LIFE on December 29, 2009, 06:30:30 pm As a true blue Dolfan of course I care deeply about our 1972 undefeated team. One of sports all-time great achievements unquestionably. However I would have gladly traded 3 of those regular season wins for the 3 Super Bowls we lost. I rooted just as hard for our team a couple of years ago when we were 1-15 as I did last year when we won the AFC East. I have been a fan since year one of their existence and will be forever and a day be a Dolfan. The 1972 team was one of the NFL's greatest team ever and should be treated with the respect they so richly deserve. It matters little if some team should break their record of 17-0 someday it will never detract from perhaps the greatest season in football history.
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