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Coaching:

Henning
Pasqualoni

Offense:

Pennington
Ginn
Brown
Fasano
Hilliard
Cobbs

Defense

Taylor
Wilson
Jason Allen
Torbor
Soliai

Coaching:

Henning - stays
Pasqualoni - stays

Offense:

Pennington - goes
Ginn - stays
Brown - stays
Fasano - stays
Hilliard - stays
Cobbs - stays

Defense

Taylor - stays
Wilson - goes
Jason Allen - stays
Torbor - goes
Soliai - stays

I agree with Dave on all the stays and goes. Biggest question for me is Cobbs. He looked good in extremely limited action -- he only saw 6 carries. Half that of last year. Next year will be his 5th. I think there's a risk he's just not going to develop much more. I'm convinced we'll draft someone to push him.

Gotta admit, I don't think our coordinators have earned their keep this year. I think they'll both stay, though.

Not a big fan of the way our o-line has performed, either. Hopefully, it's due to DeGuglielmo being in his first year with the team... but I'm not sold on line coaches who've never played college or pro ball. The O line did a good job run blocking on paper (fewest tackles for losses, second best on "short" downs), but pass protection was shaky and run blocking NEVER made it to the second level. The blocking schemes, especially down the stretch, were... different.

I wonder if this had anything to do with the personnel he had to work with? The line seemed to be a patchwork down the stretch. A lot of people talked about the depth and versatility of the players. Maybe it wasn't as deep and the players weren't as versatile as everybody thought.

Or it could be Henne's fault. I mean, someone has to make a change when the blocking scheme is a HORRIBLE match for the defensive look. I know it's unfair to look at a few single plays considering how many snaps there are in a whole season, but I remember one play this past weekend where the whole O line was set to shift to the right. That's fine and all, but the defense on the left was lined up on the inside shoulders of our linemen, so Long had to move over 1.5 gaps before he could even start blocking. Needless to say, he never even TOUCHED his guy. Ugly, ugly play. Someone's gotta step up and say "uhmm.. guys... this isn't gonna work".

I think Taylor's touch and go, because he and Porter are both weakside linebackers.  I don't think Taylor loved covering linebackers, and I know he didn't like coming off the field on 3rd downs.

Henning - Stays
Pasqualoni - Stays

Offense:

Pennington - Goes
Ginn - Goes (odd man out when we draft a WR in this years draft..hopefully we can trade him BEFORE the draft)
Brown - Stays
Fasano - Goes
Hilliard - Stays
Cobbs - Stays

Defense

Taylor - Stays
Wilson - Definitely goes
Jason Allen - Stays
Torbor - Stays
Soliai - Stays

I'll add a couple more....

Porter - Goes
Will Allen - Stays
Adoyle - Goes (I think we draft a MLB to go next to Crowder).

I'm not saying he won't, but what are we going to do about a tight end? Haynos is a major project still. He has potential, but needs a lot of work. Sperry?

We're already weak at tight end. If you want to toss our best guy, I'm just wondering what replacement you have in mind...

Free agency.  At least one of these guys will be available:  Owen Daniels, Tony Scheffler, Bo Scaife, Ben Watson.  I think any one of those guys is an improvement from Fasano.

Owen Daniels is a restricted FA, providing a new CBA doesn't suddenly pop into existence, and recovering from his third ACL tear. The latter will be true regardless, of course. Daniels also fought vigorously to become the highest paid TE in football and reportedly still wants a contract at that level. Given his knees, I'm not convinced. Anyway, the Texans are almost certainly going to sign him to a tender at the 1st + 3rd level (meaning those are the picks it would cost us to get him).

Scheffler wants out of Denver, but will also be a restricted free agent in an uncapped year. That's gonna cost us draft picks. Maybe not a first+third, but probably at least a second rounder.

Bo Scaife is yet another victim of an uncapped year, not having enough years accrued. The Titans don't seem completely sold on him, but with an aging Crumpler the only real alternative, he'll at least get signed to a tender at some level. I'd guess a second round pick would be required.

Ben Watson is the only true free agent on your list.

For some reason I was wondering whatever happened to that poster who made his own sig line image that had John Beck, Ted Ginn, and some other bum as "AFC Pro-Bowl Starters". Good call!

Um ... last I checked the center called the blocking schemes. Did they give that duty to Henne? 

I have no idea who calls the blocking scheme for the 'phins and to what extent that player can change it. Clearly, the center cannot completely change scheme, since that would effectively change the play for the RB also (on a running play). Such a change would have to be audibled by the quarterback.

Coaching:

Henning- Goes.  We need more creativity in this offense
Pasqualoni- Stays for now.  I like his style of multiple fronts to confuse offenses.  Give him another year and some pass rush and safety help and see what he can do.

Offense:

Pennington- Goes, although I'd love to have him as QB Coach
Ginn- Get him the fuck outta here!!!!
Brown- Stays.  Like it or not he's the best back we've got
Fasano- Goes unless they can't find an upgrade at TE.
Hilliard- Stays.  He's got a good combo of power and speed.  Could end up starting if and when Ricky and Ronnie are gone.
Cobbs- Stays.  Need a change of pace back.

Defense

Taylor- Stays one more year.  Not a lot of gas left in the tank
Wilson- Get him the fuck outta here!!!!!
Jason Allen- Stays if he's willing to take a pay cut.  If not, goes.
Torbor- Goes.  They need some serious upgrades at all LB positions except for Wake
Soliai- Stays only if they don't draft a NT and bring back Jason Ferguson
Joey Porter- Goes.  He's in decline.
Akin Ayodele- Goes.  He's nothing more than serviceable and we need playmakers against the run.

I'm not going to go down each one,because the only one I can say with any conviction  of not coming back is Pennington....I'll comment on a few things....

Dan Henning is 67,I can't see him being fired,he might retire..I remember reading when the Irish Tuna Coalition was formed,they had the guy on staff they were grooming to replace Henning..I TOTTALLY DISAGREE with Tommy, We don't need  more creativity, Enough Cutesy,Trick Play.Smoke and mirrors...We need to be able to run better Fundamental Offense....

Paul Pasqualoni,I could see him leaving,more than Fired...

I don't see the firestorm,in the media or from the Fans for the team to sack ether of them...

The Front office Doesn't like to admit their mistakes...Remember Earnest Wilford,made it pretty much all the way through Training camp last year before being cut.They traded Satlele after they signed Grove (Satele wasn't their mistake)...Who'd Thought Jason Allen would even still be on this team?

Jason Taylor - (I'm sort of anti JT, anymore) It's Miami or it's over....He didn't go play for the Pats last year, and I can't see anyone banging down his door....Like it or not Joey with a Bad Wheel had more sacks than Jason...Jason hasn't had Double digit sacks since his Defensive player of the year,His game is Speed and Leverage..The Bum Shoulder kills the leverage part,and he's looking sluggish....His Future IMO is tied to Porter...

As much as I hate Porter,and Crowder They both have Value....Porter when he was Healthy put up 17.5 sacks in 08...Porter still has something left in his tank,if he stays Taylor out in the Cold...Crowder sucks, but Can Play OLB,and ILB..Since we already pissed the money away resigning him, He's at least Depth....

I disagree with too many people to give my opinion here...  grrr...

(I agree with almost all of Dave's)

I think that it's a mistake to judge Cobbs strictly as a runner.  He's a pass catcher and good blocker, plus he plays really well on special teams.  He's not the kind of guy you get rid of, in my opinion.  Plus, I know that Sparano really likes him.

Sparano likes Cobbs - he ain't going anywhere.

Cobbs is the sh*t.  As far as I'm concerned, even if we lose both Ricky and Ronnie (not saying that I hope that happens because I still like Ricky a lot and will always have a fond spot in my heart for Ronnie since he played at Auburn), I want to keep both Cobbs and Polite (not that there's a question about Lousaka being let go).  It's players like these two and Greg Camarillo who bring a lot of character and grit and variability in skill set (particularly Cobbs, as Dave highlighted) to the team, and I think it's still much needed.  While none of them are superstars, they all fit in well with what Miami is trying to do offensively currently, and I think it would be a mistake not to keep them around for at least another season...again, not that this was a question for any one of the three but Cobbs, but I guess I just wanted to get on my mini-soapbox for a sec.   ;D

Also, 'fore anyone goes accusing me of wanting Patrick Cobbs as our starting halfback next season, of course I still want him in the role that he plays now.  If we do let Ronnie walk next season (I don't think Ricky's going anywhere since he's already said next season will be his last), I hope that we will draft someone studly in the middle rounds of the draft because I don't believe that Cobbs is the type of back that will be able to tote the load by himself.  Still, in my mind, he brings great value as a change-of-pace back with solid pass catching and blocking skills.

Coaching:

Henning- stays
Pasqualoni- goes.  We can get a better DC to run the 3-4 down at coaches-r-us.

Offense:

Pennington- goes barring massive pay cut
Ginn- stays but I'm on the fence about this one.
Brown- stays
Fasano- stays barring some minor miracle in the draft
Hilliard- stays special teams player, he's probably our best reciever out of the backfield in what little I've seen of him.
Cobbs- stays also a good reciever and special teams player

Defense

Taylor- stays in a limited role
Wilson- goes.  Not even a question
Jason Allen- stays but only because he can play special teams
Torbor- goes
Soliai- goes

others not on the original list
Porter- goes due to the emergence of Cameron Wake and to a lesser extent Charlie Anderson.
Ayodele- goes.  Haven't heard his name called all season unless he's blowing a coverage.
Crowder- goes.  Misses way too many tackles and blows way too many coverages to justify keeping him.
Bell- goes if we can get a decent safety in the draft/FA
Ferguson- goes. 

The whole defense with the exception of the corners needs to be gutted and replaced.  This team gave up way too many points especially in the 4th quarter and if I may mention this briefly, I think we miss too damn many tackles largely because our team literally doesn't practice tackling.  They do "thud", all year, they get in the game and then they miss tackles right and left.  If they don't change this, you can probably expect more shitty defense as long as this regime is in place.

Where to start after all of these posts?

Hilliard is Ricky's replacement and Brown is our top offensive producer (and has the most value in Miami) - both stay

If Ricky is let go for some reason, Cobbs stays.  Otherwise, if a shifty-speedy runner becomes available Cobbs is gone.

Fasano is more important than you think, he stays. 

Pennington is gone, unless they cut there losses on the Pat White experiment.  This would only happen if Pennington was willing to come back with a reduced role (unlikely).

Henning stays - nobody does more with less.
Pasqualoni likely stays, but the Tuna is likely looking for a potential replacement for both of these guys within a year or two.

Taylor stays in an EXPANDED role.  Porter goes.  Either Ayodele or Torbor stay but not both and they take (or keep) a non-starting role.

Soliai stays but not for long.  Wilson was better than given credit for and has a better chance at staying than many on this board think.  In the end, I think he stays.

Jason Allen probably should go, but I think he actually stays and Will Allen goes.  Will seems too feisty to accept a non-starting role but his skills and reliability are deminishing.  I hope he stays and allows himself to play a supportive role.

Ferguson is a post-draft decision but does have 1 more starting year in him.

^^^^^
A lot of these were tough picks for me, Doc.  I'm on the fence about a number of them especially Ferguson. 

Some of them are 50-50 and I'm still sick about how the defense played as a unit and in general to think we can't improve massively with even average talent.

Ireland goes on record saying that Ginn stays.

http://phins.com/chris/column_011010.html

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2010/01/ireland_ted_ginn_is_a_player_i_1.html