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Title: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on January 11, 2010, 06:30:22 pm
Just saw Hoodie's post in Around the NFL and confirmed it on the Miami Herald. 

Who replaces him?  The media is saying former Giants DC Bill Sheridan, former Pats DC Romeo Crennel, and former Jets head coach Al Groh are likely candidates.  All of which have connections to The Tuna.  And if Crennel or Groh get hired as DC, Sheridan can step in and be the LB coach, as he's got a backround in it. 


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Tenshot13 on January 11, 2010, 06:53:50 pm
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/01/11/dolphins-fire-defensive-coordinator-pasqualoni/ (http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/01/11/dolphins-fire-defensive-coordinator-pasqualoni/)


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Dave Gray on January 11, 2010, 07:29:59 pm
Wow.  Surprising, but good, I guess.  This current team doesn't wait around with the status quo.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on January 12, 2010, 12:15:54 am
^^^^^

Agreed, this regime doesn't fuck around.  They wasted no time cleaning house after that disaster of a 1-15 season, and got rid of Pasqualoni after his unit took several steps back from the year before.  If I was DB coach Todd Bowles, I'd be nervous..... VERY nervous. 



Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Dave Gray on January 12, 2010, 12:33:42 am
I think our DBS have been playing much better. 


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: dolphins4life on January 12, 2010, 01:09:58 am
Now get rid of Henning.  His stupid play calling drove me crazy all season long. 


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on January 12, 2010, 01:18:26 am
Now get rid of Henning.  His stupid play calling drove me crazy all season long. 

Have to agree there.  Let's get someone who knows when to run and when to pass.  Cut out the gimmicks and let's just attack in the traditional way.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: CF DolFan on January 12, 2010, 08:25:57 am
I would like to have seen Henning replaced as well.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Phishfan on January 12, 2010, 09:32:59 am
I thought Henning would be gone & Pasqualoni would stay. This surprised me a little.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Sunstroke on January 12, 2010, 10:43:44 am

I think Henning should go as well...the play calling this season has definitely been one of Miami's weaknesses.

A little surprised about Pasqualoni though...I thought the issues on D were tied more to personnel than to schemes and preparation.



Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Doc-phin on January 12, 2010, 10:47:45 am
Dan Henning isn't as aggressive as I would like, particularly early in games, but he is an outstanding game planner.  I feel he is trying to do everything he can to make up for our deficiencies in personnel.  

In essence, I am satisfied with Henning and I think our front office is as well.  If our personnel changes and he doesn't then I will be the first to turn on him, but until then I just don't see anyone doing better with the players we have.

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Paul Pasqualoni may have been a victim of circumstances to some degree.  However, there were several times (more than normal) that our players had trouble lining up and his blitz packages were largely ineffective.  His departure makes more sense to me.  He just doesn't seem to be the right guy for what we are trying to do.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Brian Fein on January 12, 2010, 11:26:40 am
Henning found a way to win when we had sub-par talent and basically revolutionized the league by introducing the Wildcat formation.  Now practically every team uses some form of Wildcat in their game plan.

I thought the defense improved as the season went on, but the last 3 games, the defense didn't show up until halftime.  That tells me he is a bad game-planner but makes good halftime adjustments.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: fyo on January 12, 2010, 05:44:26 pm
Henning found a way to win when we had sub-par talent and basically revolutionized the league by introducing the Wildcat formation.  Now practically every team uses some form of Wildcat in their game plan.

I know we cover it every time this is brought up, but should Henning really get credit for introducing the Wild Cat formation? By all accounts, it was David Lee all the way.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: TonyB0D on January 12, 2010, 05:46:17 pm
oh man, i would kill for crennell.  he's a good DC and has intimiate knowledge of the AFC East, and the best team in the division over the past decade.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on January 12, 2010, 06:22:16 pm
oh man, i would kill for crennell.  he's a good DC and has intimiate knowledge of the AFC East, and the best team in the division over the past decade.

Is he really?  We all know how his defense got to be so good.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Phishfan on January 13, 2010, 10:24:58 am
I know we cover it every time this is brought up, but should Henning really get credit for introducing the Wild Cat formation? By all accounts, it was David Lee all the way.

To my knowledge Henning was the first person to use it in the modern NFL. Yes he gets credit.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 13, 2010, 10:26:30 am
Have to agree there.  Let's get someone who knows when to run and when to pass.  Cut out the gimmicks and let's just attack in the traditional way.

Let me add my vote to those that wish to see Henning fired.  And I hope the next day he is hired to become the NEP OC.  

There is simply no better OC in the NFL.  The Dolphins win games because of the gimmicks and because he calls a passing play when the defense is expecting a run and running play when the defense expects a pass.  


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Sunstroke on January 13, 2010, 10:52:52 am
There is simply no better OC in the NFL.  The Dolphins win games because of the gimmicks and because he calls a passing play when the defense is expecting a run and running play when the defense expects a pass.  

I disagree both simply and wholeheartedly...and would even rate our former HC and current Baltimore OC, Cameron, as a better OC than Henning.



Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: fyo on January 13, 2010, 06:37:49 pm
To my knowledge Henning was the first person to use it in the modern NFL. Yes he gets credit.

David Lee, the quarterbacks coach, got it into the playbook. David Lee brought it up on the plane ride after the Arizona game.

David Lee should get the credit. All Henning did was not stand in the way.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: tubba marxxx on January 13, 2010, 10:22:07 pm
looks like Al Grohl is going to be the successor......it should be Zach Thomas tho :)


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 14, 2010, 02:11:41 am
David Lee brought it up and got it into the playbook.  I doubt very much that David Lee chooses when to run it or which personnel to use.

But more importantly:  it's one thing to be a position coach and throw out wacky ideas like "We should let Ronnie Brown throw passes!" and "Let's split our QB out wide!"  You have no skin in the game; it's not your ass on the line if Ronnie throws an interception or Pennington gets hurt on a block.  The fact that Dan Henning was willing to risk his job on this extremely unorthodox play set (and that he was able to convince Sparano to let him devote considerable time to it in practice) means that Henning gets the credit.

If the Wildcat fails, it's not David Lee that gets fired.  It's not Tony Sparano that gets fired.  It's Dan Henning.  Conservative inertia is the major roadblock to innovation in the NFL, and being willing to take the gamble means that Henning gets the vast majority of the credit when it works.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on January 14, 2010, 09:13:44 am
Fins received permission to interview Steelers LB coach Keith Butler for the DC position...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/football/dolphins/fl-dolphins-d-coordinator-0114-20100113,0,4102089.story


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: fyo on January 14, 2010, 09:41:41 am
But more importantly:  it's one thing to be a position coach and throw out wacky ideas like "We should let Ronnie Brown throw passes!" and "Let's split our QB out wide!"  You have no skin in the game; it's not your ass on the line if Ronnie throws an interception or Pennington gets hurt on a block.  The fact that Dan Henning was willing to risk his job on this extremely unorthodox play set (and that he was able to convince Sparano to let him devote considerable time to it in practice) means that Henning gets the credit.

If the Wildcat fails, it's not David Lee that gets fired.  It's not Tony Sparano that gets fired.

It was Sparano who challenged his staff on that plane ride back from Arizona. Sure, Lee isn't calling the plays, but it seems pretty clear that the idea went Lee --> Sparano.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on January 14, 2010, 09:49:14 am
Fins received permission to interview Steelers LB coach Keith Butler for the DC position...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/football/dolphins/fl-dolphins-d-coordinator-0114-20100113,0,4102089.story

Butler would be a great choice.  He's got a long history of coaching some really good linebackers in Pitt.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 14, 2010, 11:41:09 am
It was Sparano who challenged his staff on that plane ride back from Arizona. Sure, Lee isn't calling the plays, but it seems pretty clear that the idea went Lee --> Sparano.
The point stands.  If the Wildcat fails, it's the OC who has his neck on the line... particularly for a first-year head coach that was hand-picked by a completely bulletproof boss (Parcells).

If you want to give ultimate credit to Sparano, then that's arguable.  But David Lee had nothing to lose.  Anyone can come up with wacky schemes when they aren't the one that's going to be held accountable.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: BigDaddyFin on January 14, 2010, 09:14:24 pm
Al Groh is a name I've heard thrown around.  Does this move mean we're going back to a 4-3? 

Evidently the Giants' ex-DC is our new linebackers coach. 

If I recall, Groh's Jet team ran a 4-3.  Of course they may bring back the hybrid 3-4 either way it won't make any difference if this defense doesn't learn how to tackle.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Frimp on January 14, 2010, 09:17:23 pm
I think its a good move...I'd also much rather have Butler than Groh as the DC.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: Phishfan on January 15, 2010, 09:48:54 am
Al Groh is a name I've heard thrown around.  Does this move mean we're going back to a 4-3? 

Evidently the Giants' ex-DC is our new linebackers coach. 

If I recall, Groh's Jet team ran a 4-3.  Of course they may bring back the hybrid 3-4 either way it won't make any difference if this defense doesn't learn how to tackle.

I think he is pretty much a 3-4 guy normally.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: BigDaddyFin on January 17, 2010, 11:26:52 am
NFL Network said Butler is out.  They better move thier asses or find someone who runs the 3-4 well and in a hurry. 



Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: fyo on January 17, 2010, 01:06:14 pm
Maybe it's time to bring back Clarence Brooks...

Seriously, though, there are lots of quality coaches out there and I wouldn't worry too much. I feel confident the Trifecta have a string of qualified replacements lined up and one of them is going to wind up here.

It's mainly just going to be a question of personalities -- and it might not be such a bad thing if it winds up being someone who hasn't worked with Parcells or Sparano before.

Winston Moss of the Packers seems like a very talented defensive coach.

Maybe lure away an existing coordinator, like McDermott of the Eagles.


Title: Re: Dolphins fire Defensive Coordinator Paul Pasqualoni
Post by: BigDaddyFin on January 19, 2010, 05:16:57 pm
I'd be tempted to go after Dick LeBeau.  I'm not sure Nolan is someone I'd want coaching the defense because he has yet to show me he's much of an upgrade over Pasqualoni.