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Title: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: tubba marxxx on January 18, 2010, 12:34:51 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/18/dolphins-home-gets-another-new-name/


As the Miami Dolphins prepare to host yet another Super Bowl, the venue is getting yet another new name.

Terry Lefton of SportsBusiness Daily reports that the team will announce on Wednesday that Sun Life Financial has purchased the naming rights to the stadium previously known as Joe Robbie Stadium, Pro Player Park, Pro Player Stadium, Dolphins Stadium, Dolphin Stadium, and Land Shark Stadium.

The five-year deal will pay out roughly $7.5 million per year.

The prior arrangement with Land Shark Lager was due to expire before the Pro Bowl and the Super Bowl; thus, the name of the place where the two prime postseason games will be played immediately will become Sun Life Stadium.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: jtex316 on January 18, 2010, 12:45:03 pm
Completely and utterly horrible.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Fau Teixeira on January 18, 2010, 12:55:36 pm
at least those sun life commercials are kinda funny


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Sunstroke on January 18, 2010, 01:41:39 pm

^^^ I agree...especially the one where they want to change the band name to "KC and the Sun Life Band."

Completely and utterly horrible.

I actually think that "Sun Life" is about as fitting for a Miami stadium as any corporate sponsor we might be able to line up. After all, we do live our life in the Sun down here... It's gotta be better than Landshark Stadium, anyway.




Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: jtex316 on January 18, 2010, 01:59:26 pm
It's the recency of the name changes that even I'm upset about. Every year this freaking stadium is called something different.

All in favor of simply calling it "Joe Robbie Stadium" from here on out say "I".


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on January 18, 2010, 03:41:54 pm
^ I'm witcha!


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on January 18, 2010, 03:46:03 pm
No surprise here. When they made the Landshark deal (which was publicized as a marketing deal and not a naming deal), they said it was only for a year, so you knew something else was gonna happen.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Dave Gray on January 18, 2010, 05:07:46 pm
I don't really care so much about this.  You shouldn't rename Soldier Field or Fenway Park, but there's not a lot of history with this new stadium.  If it helps them pay for renovations and stuff, I don't care.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Thundergod on January 18, 2010, 06:12:31 pm
It's the recency of the name changes that even I'm upset about. Every year this freaking stadium is called something different.

All in favor of simply calling it "Joe Robbie Stadium" from here on out say "I".


I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: StL FinFan on January 18, 2010, 06:46:42 pm
I don't really care so much about this.  You shouldn't rename Soldier Field or Fenway Park, but there's not a lot of history with this new stadium.  If it helps them pay for renovations and stuff, I don't care.

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Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: tubba marxxx on January 18, 2010, 08:40:08 pm
I don't really care so much about this.  You shouldn't rename Soldier Field or Fenway Park, but there's not a lot of history with this new stadium.  If it helps them pay for renovations and stuff, I don't care.


i figured no one would really be heart-broken....but i figured it was some news during "down time"....so i figured wth...ill post it


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Brian Fein on January 19, 2010, 10:11:14 am
A stadium naming deal should never be a 1 year deal.  It takes 1 year for people to get use to the new name.  I blame Stephen Ross for succumbing to Jimmy Buffett's fickle desires.  Boo.

Maybe now they'll stop trying to shove that terrible Fins TD song down our throats.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Phishfan on January 19, 2010, 11:49:05 am
I could care less what the name is. To me and all my friends we still refer to the Magic's home as "The Arena" and it has had a corporate name for several years. The name doesn't affect me in any way.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: StL FinFan on January 19, 2010, 12:37:43 pm
^  Our dome has only had 2 names and everyone just calls it "the dome".


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Frimp on January 19, 2010, 12:59:38 pm
A stadium naming deal should never be a 1 year deal.  It takes 1 year for people to get use to the new name.  I blame Stephen Ross for succumbing to Jimmy Buffett's fickle desires.  Boo.

Maybe now they'll stop trying to shove that terrible Fins TD song down our throats.

I doubt that. Fins is here to stay unfortunately.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Brian Fein on January 19, 2010, 02:01:07 pm
I doubt that. Fins is here to stay unfortunately.
I hope you're wrong.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 19, 2010, 06:48:27 pm
Could be worse.  I would have to think the worst would be to play in a stadium named after a different sports team, now that would suck. 


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Dave Gray on January 19, 2010, 08:14:50 pm

i figured no one would really be heart-broken....but i figured it was some news during "down time"....so i figured wth...ill post it

Oh, for sure.  It's news.  But it doesn't really bother me.  I'd prefer not to change the name all the time, but it really doesn't make a big difference.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: USO-ORLANDO on January 19, 2010, 09:37:22 pm
It's the recency of the name changes that even I'm upset about. Every year this freaking stadium is called something different.

All in favor of simply calling it "Joe Robbie Stadium" from here on out say "I".

I


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: BigDaddyFin on January 20, 2010, 09:10:58 pm
I.  But I still miss the Orange Bowl.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: tubba marxxx on January 20, 2010, 10:02:27 pm
Could be worse.  I would have to think the worst would be to play in a stadium named after a different sports team, now that would suck. 




.....our build an entire new stadium and STILL share it


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 21, 2010, 07:26:44 am



.....our build an entire new stadium and STILL share it

Regardless of what it winds up officially being called, I will forever refer to it as the "New Giants Stadium" (at least when talking to Jets fans.) 


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: dolphantom on January 21, 2010, 04:11:37 pm
the commercialization of these stadiums is nothing short of a disgrace. heres a few  teams that have too much pride and tradition to name their stadium after a bank , condiment company, beer , or  a razor  .

YANKEE STADIUM
FENWAY PARK
WRIGLEY FIELD
DODGER STADIUM
LAMBEAU FIELD
COWBOYS / DALLAS STADIUM



Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on January 21, 2010, 04:24:11 pm
the commercialization of these stadiums is nothing short of a disgrace. heres a few  teams that have too much pride and tradition to name their stadium after a bank , condiment company, beer , or  a razor  .

YANKEE STADIUM
FENWAY PARK
WRIGLEY FIELD
DODGER STADIUM
LAMBEAU FIELD
COWBOYS / DALLAS STADIUM



I'll allow someone else to point out whats wrong with this post.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: StL FinFan on January 21, 2010, 04:28:31 pm
the commercialization of these stadiums is nothing short of a disgrace. heres a few  teams that have too much pride and tradition to name their stadium after a bank , condiment company, beer , or  a razor  .

YANKEE STADIUM
FENWAY PARK
WRIGLEY FIELD
DODGER STADIUM
LAMBEAU FIELD
COWBOYS / DALLAS STADIUM



Busch stadium 1-3 are named for people, not beer, thank you very much.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: dolphantom on January 21, 2010, 05:03:30 pm
 ^^^ wow! give me a break, it was meant to be a sarcastic pun, to make a point . you people take everything too literal.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: dolphantom on January 21, 2010, 05:06:02 pm
I'll allow someone else to point out whats wrong with this post.


why wait?? whats on your mind?


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: masterfins on January 21, 2010, 05:55:45 pm
We could just be like Hank Goldberg and call it "TSFKAJR" (the stadium formerly known as Joe Robbie)


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: StL FinFan on January 21, 2010, 06:01:18 pm
^^^ wow! give me a break, it was meant to be a sarcastic pun, to make a point . you people take everything too literal.

It's a common misconception.  I have no idea if you are being sarcastic or not.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Sunstroke on January 21, 2010, 06:21:07 pm
why wait?? whats on your mind?

I think he might be referring to "Wrigley" in that group as the commercial, but since it was named after the owner of the Cubs (who also happened to own the chewing gum business), I think that it actually belongs there. Technically, so does Busch and Heinz, as both were last names of business leaders/masters of industry that were based in the same area the stadium is today.

We could just be like Hank Goldberg and call it "TSFKAJR" (the stadium formerly known as Joe Robbie)

Yeah, because that is so much easier... ::)  ;D



Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: BigDaddyFin on January 21, 2010, 06:35:50 pm
How about "The Not-Orange Bowl."  That seems like a fair compromise.  This way no matter who buys the naming rights later it's still the Stadium in Miami that doesn't involve either Baseball or the Hurricanes.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: dolphantom on January 21, 2010, 07:04:09 pm
It's a common misconception.  I have no idea if you are being sarcastic or not.

i know..... just messin with ya! it's all in good fun......... ;)


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 21, 2010, 07:04:59 pm
why wait?? whats on your mind?


One of your great stadiums is named after a brand gum.  I believe the first name rights ever purchased.  


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: StL FinFan on January 21, 2010, 07:26:27 pm
One of your great stadiums is named after a brand gum.  I believe the first name rights ever purchased.  

It was called Cubs Park between 1920 and 1926 before being renamed for then Cubs team owner and chewing gum magnate, William Wrigley Jr..

Owned by the Tribune Company since 1981, Wrigley Field has been a notable exception to the recent trend of selling corporate naming rights to sporting venues. The Tribune Company chose not to rename the ballpark, utilizing other ways to bring corporate sponsorship into the ballpark.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Field


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 21, 2010, 07:44:26 pm
It was called Cubs Park between 1920 and 1926 before being renamed for then Cubs team owner and chewing gum magnate, William Wrigley Jr..

Owned by the Tribune Company since 1981, Wrigley Field has been a notable exception to the recent trend of selling corporate naming rights to sporting venues. The Tribune Company chose not to rename the ballpark, utilizing other ways to bring corporate sponsorship into the ballpark.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Field

Tribune choose not to resell the rights.  But when it was renamed from cubs park to wrigley it was a corporate renaming.  No different then if Wayne Huizenga had named the stadium "Blockbuster", "waste management" or "autonation". 


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: dolphantom on January 21, 2010, 08:23:05 pm
It was called Cubs Park between 1920 and 1926 before being renamed for then Cubs team owner and chewing gum magnate, William Wrigley Jr..

Owned by the Tribune Company since 1981, Wrigley Field has been a notable exception to the recent trend of selling corporate naming rights to sporting venues. The Tribune Company chose not to rename the ballpark, utilizing other ways to bring corporate sponsorship into the ballpark.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Field

  therefore, proving my point. it was not named after  "the gum" per say. it was named after a man who happened to sell chewing gum . not for corporate greed.  my original  point was , these names stuck for many years, and not likely to ever change , due to tradition, pride and not caving to the corporate dollar.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on January 21, 2010, 09:31:42 pm
  therefore, proving my point. it was not named after  "the gum" per say. it was named after a man who happened to sell chewing gum . not for corporate greed.  my original  point was , these names stuck for many years, and not likely to ever change , due to tradition, pride and not caving to the corporate dollar.

No, I wasn't referring to Wrigley having anything to do with gum, but rather the fact that those stadiums are steeped in tradition. Yes, I know Yankees Stadium is a new stadium, but that is an anomaly, due to the heritage of the franchise.

And I wouldn't have included the Cowboy Stadium, which just opened, because it very well may have naming rights sold. But I would've included Soldier Field in your list.

Here's my point- there is absolutely nothing, I repeat NOTHING unique about the home of the Dolphins. It's a cinder block and concrete, and mortar building, with zero, ZERO, history to it. So who care's what its named?

People may say "it should've remained Joe Robbie Stadium", but to me, thats like selling your house, and insisting the new owners keep the decor the same!


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: tubba marxxx on January 21, 2010, 10:05:31 pm
there REALLY needs to be "sarcasm font" to prevent pointless arguments like this


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: dolphantom on January 23, 2010, 12:24:12 pm
^^^^ but thats  all the fun.


and philly, i disagree. every team has a history. and if it doesnt, how are supposed to create a personna, or an atmosphere of any kind, if you keep changing the history, by changing the name? it sounds stupid , but what would the mystique of lambeau field be without the name? or would you still think of yankee stadium the same if it were called bank of america field?   its a matter of constantly "renting out" the rights to name a stadium, just to make money. its the same reason why the outfield walls look like billboards in every stadium . its disgraceful. i know there should be sponsors, but you have to agree its gotten way out of hand.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on January 23, 2010, 01:01:15 pm
^
I wasn't talking about team history.

You are comparing a stadium which is barely 30 years old to stadiums which have been around since nineteen dickety two. The only "newer" stadium which has any kind of personality is the Bucs home (because of the pirate ship). Other than that, you can step into any random NFL stadium, and if you switched out the banners, etc, it could be home to any other NFL team (Giants Stadium is a perfect example).

I've been to the domes in St. Louis, Atlanta, Minnesota, and the old KingDome in Seattle- they are generic. I went to Giants Stadium, RFK, Veterans Stadium, Three Rivers Stadium, Qualcomm (or whatever it is now) and Busch Stadium- aside from the crowds, the buildings were almost mirror images. They could easily have been designed by the exact same architect.

Even Gilette, Heinz Field, whatever the Ravens call their home now, and Lincoln Financial Field are pretty much cookie cutter images of each other (and some of them actually were designed by the same architectural firm)

We obviously disagree. No biggie. Is it about money? Yes. Does it matter to me? No. Does that money help pay for a better team? Yes. 

People keep forgetting the NFL is a BUSINESS.


Title: Re: Miami changes their stadium's name......again
Post by: dolphantom on January 23, 2010, 06:10:27 pm
^
I wasn't talking about team history.

You are comparing a stadium which is barely 30 years old to stadiums which have been around since nineteen dickety two. The only "newer" stadium which has any kind of personality is the Bucs home (because of the pirate ship). Other than that, you can step into any random NFL stadium, and if you switched out the banners, etc, it could be home to any other NFL team (Giants Stadium is a perfect example).

I've been to the domes in St. Louis, Atlanta, Minnesota, and the old KingDome in Seattle- they are generic. I went to Giants Stadium, RFK, Veterans Stadium, Three Rivers Stadium, Qualcomm (or whatever it is now) and Busch Stadium- aside from the crowds, the buildings were almost mirror images. They could easily have been designed by the exact same architect.

Even Gilette, Heinz Field, whatever the Ravens call their home now, and Lincoln Financial Field are pretty much cookie cutter images of each other (and some of them actually were designed by the same architectural firm)

We obviously disagree. No biggie. Is it about money? Yes. Does it matter to me? No. Does that money help pay for a better team? Yes. 

People keep forgetting the NFL is a BUSINESS.

no , i know its about business. i understand that. i do. and it shouldnt matter to me either, but its not about just the stadium names. its about all the corporate greed that prevents the common fan, like you and i , from getting for instance, 50 yd line seats, without having to mortgage out your home. its about the owners charging the fans PSL's for the right to even buy tickets. then giving them shitty seats. gone are the days when you can go with your kids to a game ,and  maybe meet your favorite athelete. they cater to the corporations ,and forget about the common fan , who supports these franchises by going to games, buying thier gear, etc. and what do we get for it? a modells sign behind home plate.