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Title: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Tenshot13 on February 01, 2010, 09:12:06 pm
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/01/dolphins-lb-porter-requests-trade-on-tv/ (http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/01/dolphins-lb-porter-requests-trade-on-tv/)

Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV

Posted: February 1st, 2010 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Jim Rome, Joey Porter, Miami Dolphins

Dolphins LB Joey Porter told Jim Rome, the host of ESPN’s Rome is Burning, on Monday that he would like to be traded (via Miami Herald reporter Jeff Darlington’s Twitter account).

Porter was benched for a November game because of off-the-field issues and is seen by some as more of a role player than a starter.

“It would just kind of be the smart thing to do,” Porter said. “Why keep a guy there that you want to make a role player?

“They can pay me. They can pay me and keep me on the team, but I won’t be happy.”

Porter has played three seasons with Dolphins after signing a five-year, $32 million contract in 2007. He started his NFL career with the Steelers in 1999.



Hell yes...trade his ass for a 3rd or hell even a 4th round pick...or put him in a package that sends a #1 WR this way.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Banshee on February 01, 2010, 09:17:40 pm
Why was he benched?


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Dave Gray on February 01, 2010, 10:52:21 pm
^^ Coach's decision.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: TonyB0D on February 01, 2010, 11:22:04 pm
what an asshat.  see ya!


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Brian Fein on February 02, 2010, 10:22:36 am
Don't let the door hit you in the ass, cause then we'd have to clean off the door.

Jackass.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Doc-phin on February 02, 2010, 12:24:02 pm
He is probably trying to save face since it is more likely we will have to cut him.  This way he looks like he is leaving on his terms.

Truth is, they guy needs to go somewhere else and take a pay cut while he is at it.  If he doesn't like it, he can opt to retire.  He just isn't as good as his contract anymore.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: doctord56 on February 02, 2010, 02:13:06 pm
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/01/dolphins-lb-porter-requests-trade-on-tv/ (http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/01/dolphins-lb-porter-requests-trade-on-tv/)

Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV



Hell yes...trade his ass for a 3rd or hell even a 4th round pick...or put him in a package that sends a #1 WR this way.

Only problem with this scenario is that no team is dumb enough to offer this for Joey; I doubt anyone would give up even a 7th for a big contract/locker room cancer/aging/ diminishing skills linebacker.

Perhaps psychotic Al Davis might want Joey, as the Raiders have always been a way station for this kind of player. But I can't see anybody else offering anything of value. I think he'll just get cut and given his outright release before his next roster bonus is due.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Kirbyjr on February 02, 2010, 04:21:35 pm
Don't let the door hit you in the ass, cause then we'd have to clean off the door.

Jackass.

I agree, I was on board with this ass clown for way too long, ship his ass out asap.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on February 02, 2010, 04:30:37 pm
I liked Joey.   :(


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Tenshot13 on February 02, 2010, 09:50:54 pm
Joey Porter still doesn't know when to STFU...

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/10062/porter-resents-losing-snaps-to-wake (http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/10062/porter-resents-losing-snaps-to-wake)

Porter resents losing snaps to Wake
February, 2, 2010
7:06 PM ET
By Tim Graham
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- Joey Porter can't fathom why the Miami Dolphins preferred to use outside linebacker Cameron Wake ahead of him last year.

That's the crux of Porter's dissatisfaction with the Dolphins and why he wants to play elsewhere.

"You got a Pro Bowl player, asking to play," Porter said Tuesday afternoon during a long interview with Miami sports radio station WQAM. Porter sat down on Radio Row in the Super Bowl media center. "If you let us just fight for the job, it's not even an argument. No shots to nobody, but it's not even an argument.

"All them guys in my room, love them to death, but at outside linebacker, I'm the best one we got, period. There's nothing to even talk about. Who am I switching with? Why should I be switching out with any of them guys?"

He later said "If you want to put Cameron Wake in the game, go ahead and good luck to you. Let me go find a new job somewhere."

Inside linebacker Channing Crowder was a guest co-host for WQAM's program and claimed he wasn't alone in being baffled when head coach Tony Sparano took Porter and Jason Taylor off the field. Taylor and Porter were named to the NFL's All-Decade team Sunday.

"If the game's on the line, I want my two Pro Bowlers coming off the edges, Crowder said. "That's my mind as an inside linebacker.

"If I see different guys out there, not bad mouthing anyone, I'm going to be like 'Peezy, you straight? You good? You healthy? J.T., you straight? You healthy? Why aren't you all out there?'



"It was a funny situation among the team. The coaches and team are all supposed to be together as one, but there's till that camaraderie that gathers. It was an uncomfortable situation among the team, and I know I'm not the only player that thinks that. I know a lot of the other guys were, too."

Porter said playing behind Wake and Charlie Anderson so frequently deflated him, especially for the final seven games after Sparano deactivated him for a game.

Porter, speaking to Crowder, said "You've been to me 'Come on, man, I need you right now,' and mentally my mind wouldn't be there because I'm distraught and frustrated that I'm on the sideline a whole quarter, watching the game, and there ain't nothing the matter with me.

"It's hard for me to accept that after being Pro Bowl just a year ago, 17.5 sacks, making the all-decade team. All of a sudden I'm taking back seat, and for who, and for what? Explain that to me, and I'll have a better answer for you."

Porter had a team-high nine sacks, but half of them came in two games. Wake finished his first NFL season with 5.5 sacks. Anderson had two sacks.

Porter suggested he turned into a ghost around the Dolphins' facility after Sparano benched him, claiming Sparano, general manager Jeff Ireland and football operations boss Bill Parcells wouldn't talk to him.

"I went from being a defensive captain and talking to the coach every day to not talking to the coach no more," Porter said. "Only time I talked to him was on game day. I was talking to nobody, seeing Jeff Ireland and Bill and nobody's saying nothing to you no more. You just kind of feel like an outcast. The writing was on the wall for me.

"I'm not going to let them take my fire out of me, and they did that."


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Dolphin-UK on February 03, 2010, 06:04:09 am
So, Mr Porter, what you're essentially saying is that despite being paid a ton of money to play sports professionally, the concept that a coach might decide to bring you off in the overall interestes of the team is enough to affect you mentally, to the extent that your level of play drops.

In the same breath you're going to stand there and say that in important moments, when Crowder would tell you to get your head in the game, you weren't able to because you had previously been pulled off the field, and then say that they should have left you on because you're the best out there?

"Hey coach, if you take me off even once, my mental state will be so badly affected that you'll need to pull me off the field every 3rd down" Way to be a Pro, that's what we're paying you for.

Sparano must be chuckling to himself, Porter just went on national TV and confirmed the reason why he was being taken off on 3rd downs!

Channing, can you hold the door open for Mr Porter please, he'll be leaving soon, oh and by the way, you can follow him out....


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: CF DolFan on February 03, 2010, 09:05:50 am
I can't believe Crowder allowed himself to get sucked in unless he wants to get replaced too. It's probably already over for Porter and may be soon for Crowder as well.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Brian Fein on February 03, 2010, 09:06:18 am
I sympathize with him, for a second, but that part about "I can't focus cause I was so frustrated..." BS lost it for me.

If you're frustrated about NOT playing, then why don't you PLAY when you ARE playing?

What a whiny bitch.  Sounds like the old "I'll show you..." mentality.  

All our linebackers are bitches.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on February 03, 2010, 09:42:40 am
Porter is seriously being very unprofessional about this. What coach is going to want him now, knowing that he'll go talk to reporters and whine every time he disagrees with the coaches moves?

And Crowder needs to realize that he should keep his mouth shut on this. It doesn't involve him- its between Porter and Sparano. He needs to stop looking up to Porter so much, unless Porter can guarantee him a job wherever he ends up next season ! (In other words- if he keeps siding with Porter, he may be out of a job too!)


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: ethurst22a on February 03, 2010, 10:23:46 am
This whole scenario shouldn't surprise us.

I said weeks ago that there was a rift in the defensive unit. This is partly the reason why they had given up the last few games. There were a lot of things going on that caused division with Porter being one of them.

I don't care what anyone says, the Porter and JT teaming did not work at all.

Porter does not play the run well and he has never been much in coverage. Another Pat Swilling. The Dolphins will end up cutting Porter. I guess that Crowder knows that he won't be back either so he's getting in subtle shots.

From another angle, with Porter gone, this is year three of the Sparano regime and fans are impatient in Miami. He'd better have a good draft and no more than an 11-5 record and advance deep in the playoffs or we'll start hearing about his job security.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Phishfan on February 03, 2010, 10:48:49 am
From another angle, with Porter gone, this is year three of the Sparano regime and fans are impatient in Miami. He'd better have a good draft and no more than an 11-5 record and advance deep in the playoffs or we'll start hearing about his job security.

I think you meant to say no less than...

Also I'm not sure you are correct on this one. I don't think the Dolphins coaching position is anywhere close to the hotseat unless there is serious drop in the team's play.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Doc-phin on February 03, 2010, 11:33:25 am
I don't think the Dolphins coaching position is anywhere close to the hotseat unless there is serious drop in the team's play.

Totally agree.

Also, IMO Crowder handled this perfectly.  He never made it sound like he sided with anybody.  He said that his thought process is to put your top touted players (guys with pro-bowl history) on the field when it counts most unless they are injured.  This philosophy would not be frowned on by anyone in the NFL.  By stating it this way, he manages to avoid locker room division without offending coaching staff.

Lastly, why is he busting on Wake when the guy was so good at maximizing the few chances he got.  He pretty much sealed the Patriot win among other huge plays.  He can complain about Anderson, but most of Anderson's play time came when Porter was injured and during the "coaches decision" game.  Furthermore, Wake took the place of Taylor just as much if not more than Porter.  Basically, Porter is an A-hole!


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Brian Fein on February 03, 2010, 02:51:45 pm
Joey Porter = old, former all-pro
Cameron Wake = first year in the league

Just because the guy's young doesn't mean he's not any good.  "Pro Bowls" only mean you were "relatively the best one year" - doesn't mean you're the best NOW.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on February 04, 2010, 11:15:28 pm
I think you meant to say no less than...

Also I'm not sure you are correct on this one. I don't think the Dolphins coaching position is anywhere close to the hotseat unless there is serious drop in the team's play.

Sorry to say, there was a serious drop in the team's play, especially on defense, towards the end of the season.  It's like this team flat out quit, then tried to scrap and claw it's way back into each of the last three games.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Doc-phin on February 05, 2010, 12:05:51 pm
Sorry to say, there was a serious drop in the team's play, especially on defense, towards the end of the season.  It's like this team flat out quit, then tried to scrap and claw it's way back into each of the last three games.

I agree.  I know the topic is supposed to be about Porter, but this deserves a line or two of discussion.

I think this happened because our rookies hit a bit of a wall and our Nose Tackle situation got the best of us.  It also didn't help that our running game was less effective, essentially putting our defense on the field a little more (even early in games).  With the way Jason Taylor railed Smith and Davis on the sideline in one of those later games, it makes me think they just weren't keeping their heads in the game like they should have.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: ethurst22a on February 05, 2010, 02:10:19 pm
Lets say that Sparano comes back with the same team with a few wrinkles. If he doesn't make it to 8-8, his job IS in limbo. If that happens, watch how many fans clamor for Bob Stoops, Jon Gruden or another coach.

Sparano clearly stated going into this season that he did not want to take playing time away from younger players. That was to be understood by the whole team. The dynamic that changed everything was the return of Jason Taylor.

Theres no way on earth that anyone can tell me that Porter or Matt Roth was happy when the Dolphins signed Taylor. That's PR stuff. It was said that Porter "signed off" on bringing Taylor back and that's stupid. They both play the same position (practically) and that's like having two wives at home. Roth was the one that got sacrificed

If Porter was such as distraction towards the end of the season, then Sparano should have did what Jon Gruden did to MeShawn Johnson in Tampa Bay and suspend him for the rest of the season and then cut him. Who knows, it would have picked up team morale and showed that everybody's with the plan or else.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: USO-ORLANDO on February 05, 2010, 04:47:11 pm
I liked Joey.   :(

Me too..... :(


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Doc-phin on February 05, 2010, 04:59:20 pm
Sparano clearly stated going into this season that he did not want to take playing time away from younger players. That was to be understood by the whole team. The dynamic that changed everything was the return of Jason Taylor.

Theres no way on earth that anyone can tell me that Porter or Matt Roth was happy when the Dolphins signed Taylor. That's PR stuff. It was said that Porter "signed off" on bringing Taylor back and that's stupid. They both play the same position (practically) and that's like having two wives at home. Roth was the one that got sacrificed

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_seasonticket/2009/04/miami-dolphins-joey-porter-says-he-needs-jason-taylor.html

I tried to find the video where these quotes came from, but it doesn't seem to be posted anywhere anymore.  I remember the interview well and the quotes are very accurate.  In fact, I remember a final line by Porter where he said in a pleading voice how much we need Jason Taylor.

If Porter was such as distraction towards the end of the season, then Sparano should have did what Jon Gruden did to MeShawn Johnson in Tampa Bay and suspend him for the rest of the season and then cut him. Who knows, it would have picked up team morale and showed that everybody's with the plan or else.

It is not clear what your point of view is.  When you use phrasing like "If Porter was" and "then Sparano should have", it makes it unclear as to whether you are saying the media is at fault, Porter is at fault, or Sparano is at fault.  I am assuming from the tone of things that you believe Porter was not much of a problem and this is an overblown media issue.  But I don't think extrapolating this all the way down to Sparano is fair.



Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Defense54 on February 06, 2010, 11:40:32 am
Joey's play might have dropped , but I enjoyed the attitude he brought. He was from Pittsburg . One of the meanest defenses I've seen in a long while. Everytime we play them we lose a player or two. They step on Rickey and rip his chest in half, they will punish a 3rd string QB who thinks he is a RB.  Joey had that mindset and I dug it. But he has lost a step and I don't believe the body can live up to the mouth anymore. I enjoyed his time here though and will continue to wear my #55 Jersey Loud and Proud.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: ethurst22a on February 07, 2010, 04:46:27 pm
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_seasonticket/2009/04/miami-dolphins-joey-porter-says-he-needs-jason-taylor.html

I tried to find the video where these quotes came from, but it doesn't seem to be posted anywhere anymore.  I remember the interview well and the quotes are very accurate.  In fact, I remember a final line by Porter where he said in a pleading voice how much we need Jason Taylor.

It is not clear what your point of view is.  When you use phrasing like "If Porter was" and "then Sparano should have", it makes it unclear as to whether you are saying the media is at fault, Porter is at fault, or Sparano is at fault.  I am assuming from the tone of things that you believe Porter was not much of a problem and this is an overblown media issue.  But I don't think extrapolating this all the way down to Sparano is fair.



Last year, Sparano did say that he did not want to sacrifice the growth of youngsters because of veterans. We talked about it on this board when he said it, the topic of conversation stemmed from Langford and Merlings play down the stretch last season.

I never said anything about the press. My statement was that if Porter was a big  problem (waving players off the field, going on the field when he wasn't supposed to and other issues), then Sparano, like Jon Gruden did Keyshawn Johnson, should have sat him for the rest of the year. Any way you look at it, Porter was INSUBORDINATE.

Sparano sat him for a game. Who knows what else went on? All I know is that during the last three games, in the first half, Miami's defense was comatose. Now how much Porters' issues with Sparano contributed to that, we won't know.

Whatever happens to the team, it eventually falls on the head coach.

Porter has "used" the press in this whole situation, forcing himself out of Miami.


Title: Re: Dolphins LB Porter requests trade on TV
Post by: Pats2006 on February 07, 2010, 09:44:32 pm
I just seen Porter on ESPN and he said he wants to be traded to the Patriots. ;)