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We had a free Super Bowl concert in downtown Ft. Lauderdale over the weekend.  There were a ton of people there, and buses were shuttled to get people to the concert site.  After it was over, the buses brought everyone back to downtown, where the bars were.

I was out.  It was late, and I was on foot.  I was having trouble getting my bearings to find the parking garage.  While looking for my car, I ran across a young guy out by himself, completely wasted.  He got in the elevator with me, then slumped to the ground and I had to help him stand up.

I got him up and stumbling and then I just let him go.  I didn't know the area and he was too drunk to even speak.  I would be concerned that he would get in a car, but I don't think he'd even be able to find a car, much less put a key in it, without first passing out.

I had my own problems and didn't want to be out in downtown Ft. Lauderdale, not knowing where I was, any longer than I had to.

Should I have acted differently?  Tried to help him or called the cops or something?

Looking back on it, maybe you should have called the cops but if I was in that position, I would have just left him there. It's his fault for being a moron so let him live with it.

Sometimes sleeping it off in an elevator is a mighty fine educational tool...

I don't know what I would have done if that happened to me because I would have been so shocked.  In retrospect, if no one seemed to be with him, I think it would be a good thing to put him in the hands of someone who could help him.  My cousin almost died of alcohol poisoning when he was younger and probably would have if his brother had not dragged him to the ER.

If it were a different scenario, I probably would've helped him -- gotten his phone -- called his friends or something.

But I was already responsible for finding my car and getting other drunk people home.  I didn't feel up to the task.

He's an adult, and if he can't handle his alcohol, that's his problem.

If, on the other hand, you saw him get into a car, then you should have called the police.

I would have done very similar as you. You also have to be careful in unfamiliar places. A crew looking to rob you will have a decoy person like that to draw your attention.

Side story, I saw a guy start talking in number last week he was so drunk. He was saying things like I can 53, 16, 49. Can you 14?

Everyone needs to sleep on the street at least once to learn never to get that drunk/high/whatever again. Leave him there.
If I saw him get in a car and drive, I would've called the police.

LIES...

The drunkest guy you've ever seen was the guy that puked on you at the Dolphins' game and then passed out in the stairway.

I definitely would have left that dude on the elevator floor.  Besides, downtown isn't THAT daunting, I probably could have got you where you needed to go if you were THAT lost...

I wasn't LOST.  I knew where my car was, but I was just turned around, having trouble finding directions and stuff.  I just needed to get my bearings, and that's tough when you're down on the street level. 

Anyway, the guy passed out at the Dolphins game was nowhere near as drunk.  He was asleep (passed out) and then woke up to slump over and puke.  After he puked, he stood up on his own and walked up a flight of stairs to leave, unassisted.  This guy couldn't even stand up and when he tried to speak, it was just garbage coming out.

You kept your Man Card with that excuse.

Why do you even need to ask a question like this? duh you help him out.

People will generally use their brain and help the person out by calling the police making sure the person gets home safe. But others are cold hearted and use stupid and selfish excuses to not using their brain.

Not getting annoyed with you, we all have moments of stupidity, the only thing right now is you learn from it, and do better next time.

Been there, done that. Good thing that I live in a safe neighborhood. Some passer by called the cops and they drove my obliterated ass home. I'd probably return the favor.

I bet you learned to never do that again. I rest my case.


I am cold-hearted. I don't give a shit about you being drunk. I just want you to get the hell outta my way and stay out of my yard/laundry room. When I was younger I might have cared, but the older I get the less I do.

I live just east of the area that Dave is referring to. Between all the clubs/bars and the beach. Which has more bars/clubs. At least twice a week I see some asshole passed out after leaving a club/bar/getting high somewhere inappropriate. (Might be my yard. We've had that happen.) I find them in my yard, in the bushes, by the canals, in the park. It's ridiculous. You want to go out and drink until you can't walk? Fine. Don't expect me to care about you. We're all adults here. Either you can handle it or you can't. Just stay the hell outta my yard.

When I call the cops, it's not because I care about the person. It's because they've passed out on my porch, peed in my laundry room, or whatever other misadventure that they need so much "help" with.

You must live in a little town or some shit where this isn't common?

Don't know where to start......but on Sunday Night we found a guy wandering behind Duffy's restaurant & Bar with a giant Penis on his forhead made by a sharpie.

He was wearing a New England Tom Brady Jersey (No Joke) BTW...........

I was thinking the same thing. Location plays a big difference in your decision making process. When I was in WV I wouldn't think twice about helping this guy out, but I have seen too much while living in Florida to care about people outside the group I am with. Too much shadiness in too many areas here.

Exactly. A lot of times when I see this stuff, it's on my early morning run.  So, seriously what am I supposed to do? There is no way I'm checking to see if some guy I don't know is ok when I'm out running by myself.

Spring Break is ridiculous.

Don't leave home without the glock........thats for sure.

Can't say what you did was "wrong" or "right."  I personally wouldn't have laid a hand on the guy.  You never know what someone will do when under the influence.  He might have been more than drunk.

I would have called 911 and talked to the guy in a soft tone in attempts to keep him on the floor of the elevator.  While he probably needed to just sleep it off, his health could have been in danger as well.  Once the rescue crews got there I would say "thanks" and excused myself.

Here is another question to consider. Dave, since you were turned around and didn't have your bearings, were you even going to effectively be able to explain where you were in order for anyone to come if you did make the call?

^^

No, I wouldn't have been able to explain where I was at that moment.  But I could've just ridden the elevator to the ground and said, "I'm on the corner of whatever and whatever."

The main logical reason for not making it my responsibility, other than being a little bit freaked out by the situation, was that it was VERY late and I had other people (including girls) that were dependent on me to get the car and take them home.  I wouldn't have felt right to leave them out at the bar while I waited for the cops or anyone else to show up.

And I also have, like some people on here have said, a sense of: If you don't want to sleep in an elevator, don't drink until you can't stand up / Not my problem.

Its about personal responsibility and accountability.  If you drink 4 bottles of vodka, no one is going to take care of you but you.  If people keep bailing the dude out, he'll keep doing it.  Waking up on the floor of a public elevator with no recollection of how he got there might have been rock bottom for the guy and provided the wake up call he needed to get this shit together.

Although it wasn't anywhere near as bad, I had a friend celebrate his birthday last weekend. His wife is a close friend of mine (long story for another thread) and she always like to get drunk and ask me for rides home. Well nothing was different this weekend except you could add him to the cannot drive category due to it being his birthday. They had her mother and stepfather there, but everyone wanted me to be their driver. Normally, I wouldn't think twice about it except

#1 I told them I would leaving early in the evening
#2 She always puts me in the position of dealing with her drunkenness

I left and told the mother she had to deal with it.

There really isn't any logical reason for not making it your responsibility to help the person out, you fucked up, didn't use your brain, end of story. Learn from it, and do better next time.

I don't care if this gets me banned from this board, i will say exactly what needs to be said, and i won't act like a cold hearted dumbass.

It is in no way Dave's responsibility to help the guy out. End of story.

This guy is not Dave's responsibility or anyone elses. Why do you think it is? Is this because you're 22 and live in a town with less than 4000 people?

Dude...calm down.  ...and please don't call me a dumbass.

How is it my responsibility, exactly, that someone else got drunk and ended up stumbling around downtown?

If I would have helped (more than I already did), I would've done so simply out of charity.

I think you're being a little naive and putting small town mentality on a major city environment.

Its not Dave's responsibility to do anything to or for the guy.  In fact, the only responsibility that Dave has is to NOT do anything like kick him, rob him, spit on him, or worse. 

The only one responsible for taking care of the drunk buffoon is himself.

Not quite sure where you are getting off saying that this was Dave's responsibility here.....I am a little lost on that one. If Dave chose to help him great.......if not great. There are situations I would help people in and there are situations I will not. Every circumstance is different especially in a big city environments. I hate to tell you this but your opinion is not fact so stop acting like it is.

Probably the right thing to do should have been to call 911 and at least report it. I don't recomend putting hands on anyone with liability issues the way they are now adays.  But leaving a person wasted and helpless is kinda....not cool. But everyone here is monday morning QBing Dave here.  Raptor, he just asked a question so he knows better for next time.

Defense, what's the general thing that happens to a fall-down drunk that's called in?

Are you arrested and brought in for drunkenness, if you aren't otherwise being a problem (aside from just being drunk)?

The spirit behind this statement might be valid.  However you are speaking from a place where you simply don't understand the real world.  You've never ventured out of your safe little area of Wells, Ogunquit, York, etc.  You don't know what it's like to be in a true urban setting in the circumstances that Dave was in.  You could get away with something else outside of Federal Jack's in Kennebunk.  Dave was in a slightly different setting and, key phrase: Didn't know the area.  I appreciate your sentiment.  I believe it's off tune a little.

I'm 6'2, 240 and hold several different black belts in several different forms of martial arts.  *I* wouldn't have laid a hand on the guy and *I* would have been tempted to walk away.  Raptor, have you ever dealt with someone under the influence of meth?  Coke?  Heroin?  Dave have no way of knowing what the guy was on.  Where the second wind could come from.  If the guy's friends would come around the corner, equally strung out and think Dave was trying to mug their friend.

There are times that you need to worry about your own safety first.  Personally responsible and individually accountable.  You SAY you would act different.  Why don't you and I take a trip?  We'll go into Southie, I'll drop you off.  You WILL encounter someone in this condition.  I would like to see what you would actually do.  It's easy to cast stones from the safety of your living room while on line.  It's harder to actually have the conviction of your words and act the way you think you would act.

You do you and stop judging others.  I think you might be more balanced over all once you figure that out.

No. They will probably run your name for warrants(as we do for all contacts) but an arrest would only take place unless you were creating a distbance or committing some sort of crime. I mean you could go, but I seriously doubt it . Ex: Pissing in front of a church group, get defensive and try to punch the cop........ect.

How about trying to punch a cop WHILE pissing ON a church group? 

Wouldn't the creativity of that alone warrant some respect?  ;)

Absolutely! Unfortunately it will probably land him a felony along with the Misdemeanor though.

LOL, Maine, don't bring Raptor to Southie. I don't even go there, and I'm white.

Funny thing about passing out drunk in that elevator, your anus really hurts the next morning.

Seriously, though I might have helped the guy or I might have not. It all depends. Drunk and stumbling around is one thing, passed out and defenseless is another. If the latter occurred I most definitely would have called the cops and maybe even waited around for them to show up.