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He doesn't like Carolina and wants out according to yahoo

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApoKgPyFaVvGW9Ytt2HdRRU5nYcB?slug=ap-panthers-peppers&prov=ap&type=lgns

Would I like him on Miami...hell ya!

Is it realistic....hell no.  He is going to have a huge price tag, and we know that this team doesn't overspend for players.  What is probably going to happen is Miami will draft a OLB in the mid-later rounds (Walterfootball.com has a mock draft of us taking Koa Misi, DE/OLB, Utah in the 3rd round, and although he is undersized, he is very athletic...just look at tape on him in the senior bowl).

Word. And I'm sure the same goes for any talented free agent out there. Sucks.

That may change.  Parcells isn't afraid to spend money on a big name FA, if the he feels that player will put the team over the top.

It makes sense to spend money on a FA if you feel your team is one or two players away from a superbowl run.  It does not make sense to do so if your team is 7 or 8 players and 3 years away.  I don't think the Dolphins are quite at a point where it quite make sense to start added in expensive final peices in, but if the Dolphins get there Parcells will spend the money.  It just has made sense to do so yet.   

He's washed up. Don't let the stats fool you.

If he signs a big deal, he'll play for one and coast for the optional 2.

Get a younger player! Miami should be tired of these type of pick-ups!

I can't stand this kind of logic.

Would anyone have said in 2007 that 8-8 Arizona was 1-2 players away from a Super Bowl run?  How about 8-8 NYG in 2006? Or the 9-7 Seahawks in 2004?

Any team is not glaringly atrocious can, with the right amount of luck (which every Super Bowl participant needs), make a run.  If your team was in playoff contention last year, then they are a couple of players away.

There is no such thing as a 4- or 5-year plan in today's NFL.  The rosters are too volatile.  Any team, no matter how pathetic, can easily go from the bottom of the league to title contender in 3 years.  In 2007, MIA was 1-15 and NYJ was 4-12; MIA won the division in 2008 and NYJ was in the conference championship in 2009.  Look at the 2005 Saints (3-13) for another example.

I agree there is no such thing as a 4 or 5 year plan.  But there is a 2 or 3 year plan. 

There is no point in spending megabucks on a one or two year big name franchise player coming off of a 1-15 season.  And Tenshots contention is that because Parcells didn't spend in 2008 or 2009 he won't spend in 2010 or 2011, I say that line of thinking is flawed.  It didn't make sense to to spend in 2008 or 2009 that might be different in 2010 or 2011.   

Not great examples, IMO.  The Giants were talked about heavily as one of the overall most talented football teams and their knock was underperforming.  The Seahawks were always a consideration because of coach Holmgren (sp?).  I guess I could give you the Cardinals as a good example, but because of their history they put themselves in a postion where they had to show us before we would believe it.


As far as going after Peppers...  I would say we are in a position to be able to go after him.  I would never offer him anything in the range of what Dan Snyder would typically offer, but he is a very good player and should be paid well.  Being that he is from the Carolina's, don't be surprised if he really wants to play in a place like Miami.  The Dolphins are very popular in the Carolina's because of their history of not having a NFL franchise.  Peppers may be willing to sign a reasonable deal to land in a place like Miami over one of the declining franchises that just wants to throw money around.

Let's not throw a bunch of money at a "name" player who is past his prime.

Maybe you are right; age thirty is getting into this kind of discussion.  However, he isn't exactly so old that I wouldn't consider it.  I figure he has at least 3 years of great football in him before he starts to lose a step.

I'd Argue, that years of Top 15 picks Finally paid off.....Talking about the Cardinals....Modified to add,and your post refers to all NFC Teams,Where the AFC has perennially the past ten years been dominated by teams Like the Patriots,Colts,and The Chargers...

we have some talent at OLB now though.  I think Porter is addition by subtraction based on what's coming out in the papers now, and I also think that between Taylor, Cameron Wake and Charlie Anderson we will play well enough at that spot not to take a chance on a F/A OLB.  In the middle is a different story.  I'd rather see us draft OLB and see if we can't develop one and increase our depth at the same time.

Don't we already have 2 or 3 of these type of people on defense?

Wasn't Taylor only on a one year deal? He may very well be gone.

funny how people say anyone can win the super bowl in 2-3 years, yet give an example of a 5 year plan  ;D

right now the dolphins are going into year 3 from 1-15. anyone really think they have the same amount of talent to go through the tournament and win the super bowl now?

Which 5-year plan was that?

The closest one I can imagine is NO (who went from garbage to champs in 4), and it's not like NO slowly-but-steadily improved in '07 and '08.

you gave the example of new orleans who didn't accomplish winning the super bowl in a 2-3 year span. it took them a 5 year rebuilding plan to win the super bowl.

if the goal is merely to get in the playoffs, win a couple of games and be relevant again, sure any team can put a few pieces together in a short time frame, get on a hot streak, etc...

but if the goal is to win the super bowl, that is a totally freaking different animal. its heading into year 3 since the dolphins went 1-15, and they don't have anywhere near the pieces in place to win the super bowl.

I believe every team is within 3 years of making a superbowl run.  That does NOT however, mean that just cause you sucked 3 years ago you are now a playoff team.  You can be 3 years away from being a contender...then three years after that be three years away...and then three years after that still be three years away. 

Bringing it back to the Dolphins..You could argue, that the Jets had some young talent talent to build around,and have been playing one player away mentality for a couple of years.(Brett Farve, Lito Sheppard,Bart Scott,Damien Woody,Alan Faneca, Trading for Kris Jenkins,Trading for Braylon Edwards)..The Dolphins young talent,was drafted by Parcells....It's just too soon (imo) to start adding the expensive free agents....I want the window to win multiple superbowls over a 5-10 year period...I feel that's what the Dolphins are trying to do...Restock the cubbards...

This was Sean Payton's 4th season as coach of the Saints.  So I guess you're counting Katrina as part of New Orleans' rebuilding plan?

Furthermore, to say that it was even a 4-year "plan" implies that they were only stockpiling cheap, young talent in 2007 and 2008 in preparation for a big run in 2009.  That isn't particularly consistent with their signings of Renaldo Wynn in 2007, or Dan Morgan, Aaron Glenn and Lance Schulters in 2008.

I thought they said Taylor was returning?  Am I mistaken?