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Title: Toyota
Post by: bsmooth on February 21, 2010, 10:51:47 pm
With the massive recall and the other information coming out, would you be willing to buy a Toyota, or would you look to another brand if you were in the market for a vehicle?


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: Dave Gray on February 21, 2010, 11:37:52 pm
I would be willing to buy a Toyota.

So long as the company has stepped forward to fix it, I'm fine with it.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: CF DolFan on February 22, 2010, 08:26:22 am
To me these problems are much less than what Ford went through with the trucks catching fire for no reason.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: Buddhagirl on February 22, 2010, 09:18:29 am
I think they're handling it properly. I wouldn't buy a Toyota because their cars put me to sleep. Boring.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: bsmooth on February 22, 2010, 02:08:27 pm
To me these problems are much less than what Ford went through with the trucks catching fire for no reason.

That was a much smaller recall.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: bsfins on February 22, 2010, 03:32:30 pm
I wouldn't buy a Ford or a Toyota!  :D

For me, it's the smugness of some Toyota owners that I've ran across with the ...Eww, and American car attitude,the ones that think that the Japanese cars are perfect.......as a matter of fact this is sort of Like a virus suddenly wiping out mac users.... :D

I thought it was odd,and didn't buy the recalling the car because of Floor mats...and Now it's becoming clear Toyota knew more than they were letting on...Allegedly...


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: StL FinFan on February 22, 2010, 03:39:28 pm
I wouldn't buy a Toyota in the first place because they are overpriced.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: Dave Gray on February 22, 2010, 03:47:34 pm
My family has owned several Toyotas -- my parents are pretty brand loyal.  They've had lots of luck with the cars and they've lasted them a long, long time with little maintenance.

Although, we're not a big "car family".   We've never put much weight in having nice cars.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: ToticoLicker on February 22, 2010, 07:42:45 pm
I voted No because I've been driving Hondas since I was 16.  I never bought Toyotas before the recall and will not buy one after.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: David Fulcher on February 22, 2010, 08:12:03 pm
I voted yes because...well, Toyotas are the shit.  That's pretty much all.

For me, it's the smugness of some Toyota owners that I've ran across with the ...Eww, and American car attitude,the ones that think that the Japanese cars are perfect.......as a matter of fact this is sort of Like a virus suddenly wiping out mac users.... :D

See above.  Proud Toyota owner since 2000 and loved the crap out of both 'Yota trucks I've had.  Also, I recently purchased a Macbook Pro in Nov., and those things are the shit, too.   :D  ;D Just messin' with you, Lil B.....well, that's a lie, because all of that stuff is true, but when I saw you take a poke at Mac users, too, I had to throw that one in there also.  Seriously, though, I've been extremely satisfied with my Toyotas.  I'm not a fanboy type, I don't believe, but when you like a product, you like a product.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: Defense54 on February 23, 2010, 08:13:19 am
I've got 1 year left on a 4 year lease on a Toyota mini Van for my wife. I wanted to get her a Volkswagon this time around but next week I'm gonna stop by the Toyota dealer and see what they can do. Its fun to have the upper hand for a change. I've NEVER seen that with Toyota in the Past. Those Boys played hardball because they knew if you didn't buy it , someone else is waiting right behind you. I'm gonna bend that dealer over and if he lets me stick it in I'll definitely do another Lease.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: bsfins on February 23, 2010, 11:54:57 am
I voted yes because...well, Toyotas are the shit.  That's pretty much all.

See above.  Proud Toyota owner since 2000 and loved the crap out of both 'Yota trucks I've had.  Also, I recently purchased a Macbook Pro in Nov., and those things are the shit, too.   :D  ;D Just messin' with you, Lil B.....well, that's a lie, because all of that stuff is true, but when I saw you take a poke at Mac users, too, I had to throw that one in there also.  Seriously, though, I've been extremely satisfied with my Toyotas.  I'm not a fanboy type, I don't believe, but when you like a product, you like a product.


 ;) It's fine....I deserved that one!  ;D   I was abruptly,and sort of rudely reminded that my parents owned a Toyota dealership,and is the reason we moved here from K.C....Also reminded that the car,that I referred to as "The spaceship" was a Toyota Celica Supra...She had the white one the longest,but the red one I had the flying lesson in (being thrown from the back seat to the front seat in a very slow speed collision,standing up in the backseat, uttering famous last words...)

I'm curious to see Mr. Toyoda,do the Walk of shame in Congress,but don't expect anything to really come of it...


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: bsmooth on February 23, 2010, 03:40:11 pm
They still refuse to admit that there is even the possibility of an electrical problem. I hope every single vehicle gets recalled. They deserve nothing less for the lies they have kept spitting out for years. Toyota quality my ass, their quality has been declining for years.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: Dave Gray on February 23, 2010, 03:45:21 pm
According to what I heard on the news, electrical problems were ruled out by several independent sources.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: bsmooth on February 23, 2010, 03:54:02 pm
According to what I heard on the news, electrical problems were ruled out by several independent sources.

There have been concerns about the electronic fuel programing. It was even brought up in Toyota's own internal memo's which said outside interference could cause the engine to surge to higher rpms.  Yet Toyota is now saying it could not possibly surged enough to cause these accidents. If it has shown a smaller problem in testing, then there is no reason to believe that a certain percentage of all vehicles with this system would experience catastrophic surging events which could lead to loss of control and fatal accidents.
You do not have to be a serious gearhead or mechanical engineer to understand that any system on a vehicle is foolproof. Yet this is what Toyota would have you believe about their cars electronics.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: Dave Gray on February 23, 2010, 04:05:07 pm
There may have been concerns, but those concerns have been ruled out by several independent sources.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: Dave Gray on February 24, 2010, 09:36:54 pm
So, watching the news again today, the guy brought up electrical problems again.  I think that there may be additional investigations.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: bsmooth on February 25, 2010, 12:02:53 am
There may have been concerns, but those concerns have been ruled out by several independent sources.

Which sources are those? I have yet to see anything that says there is no possibility that the electronics could cause surging. I have seen and read several studies, to include ones by Toyota that electronic malfunctions can cause rpm increases and surging. The only difference is how bad it is.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: Dave Gray on February 25, 2010, 12:09:21 am
^^ No idea.  It was just what some reporter was saying on their broadcast.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: bsmooth on February 25, 2010, 06:41:57 pm
A 4yr old manslaughter case is being reinvestigated as all this new info about Toyota and their lack of recalls may mean that this guy's car was out of control when it hit another car and killed three people.


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: Buddhagirl on February 25, 2010, 08:10:47 pm
A 4yr old manslaughter case is being reinvestigated as all this new info about Toyota and their lack of recalls may mean that this guy's car was out of control when it hit another car and killed three people.

Is the guy currently in prison? Wow...


Title: Re: Toyota
Post by: bsmooth on February 26, 2010, 08:07:47 pm
Is the guy currently in prison? Wow...

Yes he was sentenced to 8 years.