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i don't see this working out well for the jets at all

Hopefully, we will still applaud him when he comes back to Miami.

Hard to believe the fins didn't make an effort to resign him. 

Yay.  By which I mean S&*t.  He had 7 sacks last year while playing pass coverage half of his downs AND coming off the field on many third downs.  I heard the Jets promised him an all-pass-rush-all-the-time job to incentivize him to join up with their evil gang.  I hope Jake and Vern are ready for him...

As I said before:  we're going to be screaming about this by year-end when he's gotten 10 sacks with the Jets.  absolutely howling.  I don't care that he's 35.  He was still our best LB last year.

Does it really affect us that much? I mean of all the guys you could want to have to deal with JT, a Pro Bowl LT who's spent last year facing him in practice has gotta rank quite high right?

i don't get it at all.... they re-signed fergusen, he is pretty old, and will be suspended for the first 8 games.

even if they are targeting an olb with the first pick, i don't see how having jt on the team excludes them from still doing that. in fact i would argue drafting a stud olb with the first pick would benefit most by having jt to learn from.

Great move Dolphins!!! Way to get rid of that over-priced, over-hyped bum.

I can't wait to see how many "bashers" there now will be (e.g. "he's no good anymore", "he's old") when last week he was still "an awesome defensive player"). :)

I am certainly surprised.  I thought especially, after signing Marshall and talking to Taylor, that they'd get it done.  I still don't agree with the decision for either party, but what can you do?  I hope he's a huge failure.

The Jets overpaid, though.  According to nfl.com, it was 13 million for 2 years. 

I'm seeing a lot of sudden hate for Jason Taylor on other boards.  I don't blame him.  Basically, the Dolphins told him to wait until the draft and if we don't find anyone better, then we might make you an offer.  I would have done the same thing JT did.

3.5 mil for the first year is the only important thing.

^^^

Oh

In that case, they didn't

Score this as bad move in Parcell's book.

Hopefully, his other moves (Marshall and Dansby) work out for the fish this year

Hopefully, we will be classy fans and not hate on him.  That guy gave his heart to this team for many years.

And what was he supposed to do?   The Fins didn't make him an offer.  If he was going to play, it had to be for the Jets.

Since you are quite the at home GM I'm surprised to hear you say this. Next year is the only uncapped season.

right, because how much of it is a signing bonus and will count against the second year cap if they cut him.

So they are willing to sign Ferguson when he'll only be there for half the season, but 3 million for JT is just too much?

This regime seems a little too enamored with bringing in and keeping their own players (see Wilford, Ernest).  They've pretty much treated Taylor like crap from the day they arrived.

When JT signs with the hated, stinking Jets, that tells you how badly the Dolphins' management has treated him.

yup parcells is a douche. 

This is a bit of revisionism isn't it? Wilford signed a four year deal and was released before the regular season of the second year. That really isn't anywhere close to "keeping your own players".

the move confuses me too, but let's not forget that taylor chose to sign with the jets.

he could have waited until after the draft to see how the market shaped up, he could have retired...

I'm curious. Is there anyone else who thinks we may already have our outside pass rushing specialist on the roster? Although a bit raw Cameron Wake was very impressive getting around the corner last year in very limited action.

lol, look at all the mediocre talent he brought in from dallas.

^^^ If a former Dallas player had been the sited example I would have discussed Dallas. The Wilford example was off base.

I say F Jason Taylor.  He's washed up and we don't need him.  Consider this the new regime officially saying "we're moving on"

I look forward to Jason getting burned by Joey Haynos.  He's terrible in pass coverage.

He has a huge roster bonus for next year.  Like, if he's on their roster by March 15, 2011, he gets $10 Million.  Hence, it's a 1 year, $3.5 M deal.

Brian, you're insane.  JT is "so bad" in coverage that the year before he went to Washington, they had him line up on Wes Welker all game long just to chuck him at the line and run with him a few steps.  I don't see other OLBs doing that.

And Welker had like 10 catches for 175 in that game.

The front office didn't treat Taylor like shit.  They felt that he didn't fit into their plans for 2010, so they did not offer him a contract.

Taylor didn't tell Miami to screw.  He signed with a team to play the game he loves.

Hopefully, we as fans will not boo him this season. 

Wilford was released after the second preseason game in 2009, after he royally, conspicuously sucked balls during the entire 2008 season.  Why was he even on the team after 2008 ended?

For players that the Trifecta brings in, you get chance after chance, and have to completely prove without a doubt that you are completely useless before you finally are grudgingly let go.

For any player not brought in by them (e.g. Zach Thomas, Matt Roth, Samson Satele, Jason Taylor, et al) you're toast at a whim.

Want another example?  Up until the Marshall trade, Ronnie Brown was clearly our best player on the offensive side of the ball.  And yet somehow, while 35-year-old half-season-suspended Jason Ferguson and 3rd-string multiply-detonated-shoulder Chad Pennington are offseason contract priorities, Ronnie Brown sits without a new contract.  I wonder why?

I will boo Jason Taylor.  He plays for the Jets.  I don't give a crap how long he played for the Dolphins.  He was good 5 years ago, I cheered for him then.  Now he plays for the Jets and it'll be a cold day in hell before I cheer for ANY player wearing that God-awful green color.

I`m going to miss Jason Taylor, he is an all time great Dolphin. I think he still has alot left and in the Jets defense he can be very effective. I think the Dolphins made a big mistake not resigning him and will regret there decision.

amen to that...

he now admits that he had an offer for a contract extension in november from parcells and turned it down!!! f you jason taylor. please keep that green jersey and retire over in new york.

This is simple to answer. Ferguson & Penington were both unrestricted free agents I beleive. Ronnie isn't.

Actually, I think it was 5 for 49.  It was in Cam Cameron's year, so it was either 5 for 49 or 9 for 138.  All I know is I remember him chucking Welker at the line of scrimmage on each play.  Seriously, now, how many OLBs (who are really DEs by trade) would you ask to cover Wes Welker, even for a second?  That speaks to him being pretty decent in coverage.

I will hope Taylor does well individually, but will never root for the Jets.  You know what, though?  This team has, in the past 11 years, wiped its ass with: Don Shula, Dan Marino, Zach Thomas, and now Jason Taylor.  Let's just say I'm beginning to wonder why I love this team so much.  The worst part:  Taylor still had the most left in the tank.  If this team is rebuilding, come out and say so.  Don't try to sell me that Sergio Kindle is going to be better than Taylor would've been.  I'm not buying.

If there really was an offer to him in November, why did he turn it down if he wanted to stay in Miami? Maybe he thought he would be getting offers from all over the league?

^^^The offer came in the form of a post-it note from Parcells, in November.  Parcells requested that Taylor deal with him without his agent.  Taylor referred Parcells to his agent.  Once that happened, Parcells "may have been offended" by the agent's involvement and then it all went south from there.  That's the story I've read.  Nothing I've read gives me the warm and fuzzies about the Dolphins.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-zach-thomas-rips-dolphins-10,0,6240045.story

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2010/04/from-7-pm-until-approximately-10-pm-tuesday-night-i-spent-time-on-the-phone-and-in-person-listening-to-jason-taylor-or-p.html

 

It is an intriguing question, isn't it?  Seems to make the story seem a lot different than all the "oh poor jason taylor" people would have you believe.

He's not infallible.  Nowhere did I ever read that he WANTED to come back.  To me the message was clear - he had no interest in returning.  Maybe you, the fans, wanted him back.

I repeat - Jason Taylor can suck it.

You haven't been reading, then.

FROM ARMANDO SALGUERO OF THE HERALD
What I know:

1. Taylor on Tuesday morning accepted from the New York Jets the only contract offer he had on the table to him. Period. There was a report on the Dan LeBatard radio show here in South Florida that quoted a source saying the Dolphins had an offer on the table for Taylor and he decided to take the Jets offer anyway.

Wrong.

"It was take this or go on a nationwide (Dancing with the Stars) tour with Jerry Rice," said Taylor, who also called LeBatard's source "a liar."

The Dolphins are in agreement with Taylor on this issue. They confirm they did not have a contract offer on the table to Jason Taylor


http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2010/04/from-7-pm-until-approximately-10-pm-tuesday-night-i-spent-time-on-the-phone-and-in-person-listening-to-jason-taylor-or-p.html#ixzz0lkS0dfxZ

I also have to agree that this is misleading.  I heard him say in more than one interview that he wanted to play 2 more years (after the 2009 season) and that he wanted to be with the Dolphins.  This was during the season.

Furthermore, I want everyone to soak this in.  YOU 100% CAN'T TRUST ANYTHING THAT COMES FROM THIS GROUPING OF PARCELLS, IRELAND & SPARANO.  I trust Taylor, maybe not 100%, but certainly way beyond anything that comes from our current front office.  I honestly believe our front office is trying to do what is best for our team, but they are checking their respect for the players (and in some ways the fans) at the door.

Simply put, I don't like this way of doing business.  I don't find it necessary or even beneficial. 

I can handle JT not playing for the Dolphins, but doing things like spontaneously canceling meetings without reason and using harsh phrasing at press conferences just isn't the way to handle a player who has offered as much to the team, city and game of football as Jason Taylor.

this is about taylor wanting money, plain and simple.

parcell's gave him an offer for a contract extension in november. if he wanted to remain a part of the dolphins, he would have jumped on that. maybe it was another lowball offer, and taylor wanted his agent to negotiate it. whatever...

he's 35, and had a contract extension from parcells himself to remain with the dolphins. he CHOSE to wait until the end of the year, get an offer from the jets, and take that offer. he had many options throughout this process, and CHOSE this path.

this is my position on it:

JT is well aware of the rivalry between the dolphins and the jets, even if the jets are the only team in the entire league that want to sign him, he's making the choice to play for the biggest rivals we have. That is his choice to make, my choice is to boycott any business that pays him for advertising. That's my choice.

We as fans don't owe him anything. He absolutely deserves to be booed when he comes here to play in September, it isn't even a question. He has the right to chose whether or not to play for the Jets and we as fans have the right to not like it.

And his number shouldn't be put in the ring of honor.

^^^  You had me in mostly agreement until you mentioned the ring of honor, Fau.  You want to boo him for going to the only team offering a contract, that's your right.  You want to look past the fact the Dolphins treated him like crap YET AGAIN, that's your right.  You want to say he no longer belongs on the list of Dolphin greats because he's taking a title shot with Jets and I say you're crazy.  The guy wants to keep working.  The other team is offering him a job.  His current employer has told him to all but eff off.  AGAIN. 

If you think he should retire rather than put you through the *anguish* of seeing him in Jets green, then you're the ass, not him.

You want someone to blame?  Try the guy that hasn't won a Super Bowl since 1986 but we all treat like some sort of god.  He's offended that the star player rejected his contract-on-a-post-it-note, and now freezed Taylor out?  And Taylor's supposed to just roll with it for the sake of your fragile little memories of his time as a Dolphin?  Give me a break!  If my firm was done with me and its most bitter rival was the only one offering a job, do you know what I would do?  Take the effin' job.  And so would you, and you, and you, too, dear reader.

When Jason Taylor single-handedly dismantles Jake Long or Vernon Carey, remember to place the blame squarely where it belongs; on the 65-year-old third grader that got offended that his "do you like me?  check the box if yes" note got thrown back in his face for being the joke of a contract offer that it was.  Seriously.  $2.5 million dollars in an uncapped year?  THAT was worth waiting 'til after the draft?  My ass.

qft

^ What he said.

Sounds more like the ramblings of someone liking a player, more than rooting for a team to win a superbowl.....

i would too without a second thought .. but i wouldn't expect to be put up on the ring of honor of the first job

i'm not blaming JT for taking the jets position .. he can do whatever he likes .. but i just have a policy where i don't think we should put jet players on our ring of honor. that is all

I'm going to side with JVides.

It's not that Taylor went to another team.  It's that he went to the Jets.  That isn't an accident.  There are 30 other teams out there and he chose our bitter arch rivals -- the worst of all others.

So, along with that comes the criticism from fans that don't want him to have a legacy.  I don't necessarily agree with it, but I certainly understand it.

It's a little hard to determine until we have all of the facts, too.

In short, the Dolphins (team or fans) don't OWE Taylor anything.  ...not an ovation at home, not a Ring of Honor spot, ...nothing.  Those are things that we choose to award based on people's character after they've left us.  It's not very "honorable" to go to the Jets and directly harm those that cheered for you for a decade.  ...but that's just me.

^^^Here is where your representation fo the story is completely wrong. The Jets were the only team out of those 32 that offered Jason Taylor a contract. He didn't choose them out of 32 teams, his only other option was to wait or retire (which could have been the same result if he had waited).

^^^ the dolphins offered jt a contract extension in november and he turned it down.

You're right, B.  I like Jason Taylor.  A lot.  Because he's, like, reeally good.  And I am angry that my team keeps treating its best players like garbage when they get older.  I am still pissed about how Shula went out, and Marino, and Zach Thomas, and now JT.  I see a pattern of disrespect towards my favorite players (and coach).  So right now, at this moment, yeah, the Dolphins can suck it.  I'll get over it, and will always root for them but, at this time, I am angry that they chose to piss off and chase out a franchise icon for a paltry (by NFL standards) $2.5 Million.  Especially in an uncapped year.

Just as people here are so fast to switch sides on Jason Taylor for leaving Miami, I am equally fast to point out that your placing all the blame on him is ridiculous, given how the franchise has treated him in the last three years.  Read the links I provided.  It's not just JT they mistreated.  Not letting Zach Thomas have a news conference to say goodbye to fans?  Are you kidding?  As much as I like what the current regime is doing in building this team, I hate how they treat older cornerstone players.  So let's see:  my team doesn't respect the players that risk life & limb for their honor, doesn't respect a player that has never been anything of a distraction to them, doesn't respect me as a fan enough to tell me flat out: "nope, we want to go younger at the position" rather than jerking said player and me around.  Yeah, it's hard to side with the team right now.  Real, REAL hard.  By the way, all this treating past-their-prime star players like crap stuff would be fine and well if, you know, they actually won or SNIFFED the Super Bowl, as you implied.  But really, we've had 10 years of mostly garbage since Marino retired, so the end does not justify the means, especially when viewed in contrast to the Patriots (you know, actual champs) who do RIGHT by their veteran players, bringing them back year after year, sometimes in diminished roles but always as contributors, because they're smart enough to know that these players are still assets.

To recap:  the Dolphins organization of the past 10 years has treated cornerstone players like crap AND backed that up with a whole bunch of shit football and losing.  Aye, they make me cry, indeed.

Dolfan, I have already pointed out what a joke of a contract offer that November one was.  I provided links to where Dolphins brass confirmed that the offer was in the form of a post-it note, and that they requested his agent not be involved.  That's not how it's done in the NFL.  Taylor wanted to go through the correct process, and you think he's disloyal for it.  Lame.

Jvides, I repect that...I think they need to look out for the team,not formly great players....We don't see what they see, we don't see the coaches tape.We don't know what their plan is....I understand the frustration....I think You can blame them for Taylor, and Thomas...But Shula, Marino Different Owner,Different Regime....

Modified to add, I think resigning him last year was a bad move,(it jerks him,and fans around) and just adds to the problem,IMO

^^^OK, B, let's do this.  At what point would Taylor have been a good fit for the Dolphins in 2010?  Let's set the standard here and now.  At what point will Taylor exceed the "damn, he should have been on our team for $2.5 M" threshhold?  5 sacks?  7?  10? 

I'll wager he hits the over.  Call me nuts, I think he still has it.

That's not really accurate.  They tried to get him to cut out his agent (as JT correctly pointed out, they themselves have agents) and he declined.  He had his agent contact them about the deal and they decided to take their ball and go home.

does jt work for his agent, or does jt decide what deals he wants to chase?

there was a deal offered, and for whatever reason, jt put it on the back burner. he says he wanted to play for the dolphins, but his actions don't add up.

I'm sorry to say...None,I honestly think he isn't a good fit..Whatever he gets with the 2010 Jets,Doesn't mean He'd get that number with the 2010 Dolphins.They have better players on their roster (prior to the Taylor signing).They notoriously Blitzed,alot last year,and I don't forsee that changing.They are playing the One player away mentality....(Trading for Cromartie, Signing Tomlinsons,Trading This years draft for players last year, Braylon Edwards Trade)

We were 7-9,our defense was slow,and ranked 22nd in the league (yeah yeah 3rd in the league in sacks..)....

I feel that question is apples,and oranges...Down and dirty, the Wes Welker Argument....Would Wes Welker be That Wes Welker in Miami....

I don't understand why so many of you have loyalty to one player?  Were you guys all Redskins fans in 2008?  Why suddenly is this a huge shock?

If it is true that JT was offered a sans-agent contract extension, and chose he'd rather have his agent involved, then its because he wasn't happy with the offer.  Thus, not so eager to return to the team.  I don't understand why the agent is so important.  My guess is that they wanted to not have to give the scumbag agent any money, so that JT could get more.  Heaven forbid.

He's a Jet now.  He gets my boos.  I am certain I am not alone. 

I have no loyalty to players, other than guys like Marino and Zach.  Taylor WAS on this list, but guess what?  He's the enemy now.  Buh bye.

Part of me equates this move to the way Brett Favre SO BADLY wanted to play for the Vikings that he "wasted" a year with the Jets to get there.  Wonder why......

Here's how I see it- Parcells (and crew) get paid to make decisions. Sometimes they are good, sometimes they aren't. Their goal is to build this team as a long term winner. If they didn't feel JT fit their plan, its what they are getting paid to decide.

Is it a right decision? Who knows. Is it a wrong decision? Who knows.

JT signed with the Jets for $2.5 million, but for all we know, maybe he wanted $9 million to play in Miami. In other words, maybe he "settled" for that $2.5 because (as others have pointed out), there were no other offers on the table.

If there's one thing I've learned in situations like this, its that neither side tells the whole story.

I don't think it has anything to do with being "from a prior regime". It has to do with the value they see in a player. They signed Vernon Carey to a contract extension. Same with Yeremiah Bell. Same with Channing Crowder. They kept the ol' pothead around. They were from prior regimes.

Like I've said, he's a Jet now. See ya.

Taylor sat on the Jets offer for 3-4 weeks.  You think if he was happy with the offer, he would have waited?  you don't think that, during those weeks, his agent was burning up the phones to every other GM in the NFL?

If 30 other teams didn't want him, why should the Dolphins be any different?  Because he had 21 sacks in 2005?  Meh, no thanks.

He has an agent to handle his contracts, just like Parcells, Ireland, and Sparano do.  If using an agent is such a slap in the face, why haven't they released their own?

He didn't put it on the back burner; he referred them to his agent to handle contracts, because that's what his agent is for.

I suppose next you will argue that if he wasn't willing to play for the league minimum, then he didn't really want to play for MIA at all?  I mean, come on.

Taylor would want his agent involved because Taylor's not in the business of reading contracts.  As someone who reads contracts quite often, let me tell you that they make my brain hurt.  He's no idiot; he's not going to sign on the dotted line without his agent telling him the contract's kosher.  Come on, guys.  Common sense, please!

As for wanting more from the Dolphins, please refer back to the blogs listed to see that this was not the case!  He got one offer in November and nothing since.  NOTHING.  Not $1, not $1 M, not $9 M.  NOTHING.

right right i know, because he needed his agent to negotiate agreeable terms based on a long term huge money deal here.

poor jason, he was at risk to get royally screwed on the one year deal he was looking at here.

^^^Yeah, that's right.  That selfish asshole jock deserves your hatred for the 12 years of dedicated, honorable service to your franchise, during which he was never busted for: PEDs, beating his wife, fathering children out of wedlock, carrying firearms, making it rain in strip joints, smoking crack, consorting with prostitutes, etc...  Fuck HIM for having a douche move pulled on him by the franchise, right?  Right?!? 
Sarcasm cuts both ways, Dolfan, and makes for a weak argument.

You're acting like a bunch of children ruled by your emotional responses.  Grow up and understand that the NFL is a serious business, where serious legal minds are necessary in hashing out contracts.  A contract on a post-it is a JOKE, OK?  A joke.  A Spider-Dan said:  if agents weren't necessary, Parcells, Ireland, and Sparano wouldn't need 'em too.

for real... compared to the what, 40 -50 mil he's made over that 13 years he's been in the league... better make sure you got your agent with a microscope on that last year 2 mil contract. wouldn't want to get screwed on that.

I agree. Wake up! SPORTS is a business! Stop fantasizing and come back to Earth.  No one has mention the Jason Taylor Foundation and what he actively does for children in the South Florida area. He's hands on. But no one cares about his foundation at all.

But people want to bash him for changing uniform colors. Totally ridiculous!

Dolphin fans try to put Jet fans as the worst in the world. I don't know what happened over the last 25 years but most Dolphin fans have become unrealistic. Again, it's a business! This is not Lombardi's Packers, Shula's Dolphins of the 70's and Landry's Cowboys. There is no loyalty in pro sports.

I don't care if Jason Taylor cures cancer...fuck him, he's a stinking Jet now.

^^ WORD!

I don't understand why we, the fans, or the team, owe him a damn thing.  He's a former player.  Bye.

I don't get the hate for JT here. I don't get it AT ALL.

The Dolphins didn't offer him a contract. That November thing was a complete JOKE. JT effectively said, "yes, I'm interested -- send something to my agent". In response, the Dolphins effectively said "...".

JT wasn't looking for a huge pay day, not even close. He's getting PEANUTS to play in 2010 and he would gladly have played here instead.

My problem with the front office in this case is that they didn't treat JT the way ALL players should be treated: With some measure of respect. Personally, I do think he has EARNED more respect than a random player, but Parcells & Co didn't even live up to any reasonable minimum level of respect. That's bad business, pure and simple.

They had a meeting set up with JT last week or so and they just cancelled it. They were stringing him along and just generally being asshats. Regardless of how I feel about JT playing for another team, let alone the Jets, I just cannot respect the way the front office has handled this.

On the flip-side, while it hurts that JT is playing for the Jets, he's done nothing in this matter that I cannot respect. He's reached out multiple times, he's publicly stated that he wants to stay; he's done and said all the right things. All the Dolphins needed to do was allocate a roster spot. They weren't willing to do that.

One thing that surprises me in all of this is that he didn't get single offer from anyone else. Seriously, is he that much over the hill? He certainly didn't seem so last year. This isn't a player asking for $10M a year. I'll g o out on a limb and say that 31 front offices (who do this sort of stuff professionally) have it all wrong and I, the fan with absolutely no insider knowledge, know better ;)

^^ so what are the Dolphins supposed to do if they don't want him back?  Do you want them to roll out a red carpet?  have a parade?  give him the keys to the city?  maybe we should get him a pope mobile and drive him around for him to wave at everyone.

Or is "not wanting him back" not an option in your mind, because he used to be so awesome.

I don't know what you expect...

Then SAY that. Tell the guy, sorry, doesn't look like we're interested in having you on our team this coming season.

DON'T schedule a meeting with the guy and then cancel.

I'm tempted to think the Dolphins didn't want to alienate the fan base by sending JT off outright, but that would require Parcells & Co giving a damn... (I like most of the things Parcells has brought to the franchise, but that's not going to stop me from pointing out the crappy stuff).

bill parcells offered jason taylor a contract extension in november and both parties state that this is true.

It wasn't the right time," Taylor said. "I wasn't comfortable with the contract situation coming up then. Maybe I grew up old school, back in the days of Jimmy Johnson and Dave Wannstedt and Rick Spielman. We didn't talk contract once the season started. My focus was on trying to get to the playoffs, not on talking money." (salguero herald blog)

he didn't say he was "interested", or that he would "think about it". he told the dolphins to WAIT until after the offseason to discuss MONEY. funny how when the dolphins ask taylor to wait, while still very early in the offseason, he's not okay with it.

taylor is trying to come off as he did absolutely nothing wrong, he loves the dolphins, only wanted to play for the dolphins, blah blah blah blah. essentially in november he passed on an extension with those same dolphins because he didn't want to get stiffed money wise on a one year deal. thats his call... he only made what 50 million over the past 13 years and now is sooo concerned about the terms on a one year deal?

Both parties also stipulate that it was ON A FRIGGIN POST-IT AND REQUIRED JT TO EXCLUDE HIS AGENT! Why can you not understand that this is totally underhanded.


That's incorrect. I can see how one could interpret that from a single, isolated quote from JT, but it's incorrect. In context, you can add "WITH HIM" to the end. JT didn't want to talk money in the middle of the season. He wanted his AGENT to talk money (in the middle of the season).

Both parties agree that the offer was eventually pulled, although its unclear if there was ever any negotiations. Basically, Parcells (who "doesn't handle contracts") gave JT the post-it offer and when JT wouldn't agree without his agent, Parcells turned it over to Ireland and the post-it offer was rescinded.

The hate talk for JT is ridiculous!

Based on what Taylor has added to the team, community and game of football I say this...

For those of you who would boo Jason Taylor when he comes back to Miami just because he is in a Jets uniform, you are precisely the kind of person I would expect to see burning in hell if hell truly exists.

Don't be an A-hole!  Show respect to people, especially when they have earned it.  Don't applaud him if you don't want to, but to boo him is completely unjustified.

we boo jets players around these parts .. they deserve nothing less

I agree.  Brian I'm going to respectfully ask that you edit my Monkier to Defense54 and drop the 99.    Sorry to be a bother but he is dead to me now.  Zack never left he was cut. He refused the calls to play for New England .  I know the Holy Trinity could have handled this better, But JT could have played for another Team. He doesn't need the money that bad.  Going to the Jets was a Fuck You to Parcells and Irlend , but but all he did was disrespect us.  The Jets? Its like your worst enemy fucking your wife. ()0()  Asshole. 

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/12931/scource-claims-fins-made-taylor-an-offer

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5124774

People will believe what they want to believe...

So what are these two stories showing? They both say and offer was made in November and then pulled back in December. Not much information as to why the offer was recinded.

So.....one Douche Move deserves another? His was MUCH more Douchy.   He struck back at them and we got caught in the line of fire. Fuck him.

Once again why this level of anger. By all accounts the Jets were the only playoff caliber team and possibly the only team really interested in him period. How does this make his business decision a total douche move?
Taylor did nothing more than Zach did, you all just hate the Jets more than the Cowboys and this is blinding your vision.
Get over it, JT did not fuck this team over one bit. The Phins season will not be jepardized because of this.

About the only Time I have agreed with Fireman Ed:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2010/04/07/2010-04-07_jets_super_fan_fireman_ed_blasts_de_taylor.html

Alot more to this then a championship or money.  Taylor is pissed off. He made his choice and is now dead to me and many of the fans. Any thoughts of bringing him back to retire oneday is just another insult.  Its like posting pictures of the Jets Monday night Miracle around the stadium. This is the same level of a horrible bad moment in the Dolphins History.

I hope one of the new Draftees gets # 99 rightaway.

Don't speak for "many" of the fans.  I know exactly two who are pissed off, one is you.

Many can equal 3.  I'll find another no problamo.  ;)

The only anger I have towards him is he is a Jet, so fuck him.  Its that simple.  If he went to NYJ and it was a direct result to world peace, I'd still say fuck him because he's a Jet.  I agree that once he's out of that uniform, things will probably be all good, but until then he's dead to me.

No I can't take him back. Thats like that fat bastard Rex Ryan sleeping with your wife for a year and then her coming back.  I couldn't go near her again.

Make me three, then.

I don't hate Taylor, but I am pissed that he chose the Jets.  He had options.  He chose the money.  That's fine, but I don't have to like it or him for it.

Dave, I am not happy that he is a Jet now either.  However, I don't plan on hating him for the rest of my life because of it.  I also don't think that just because he is now a Jet that he should never be in the Ring of Honor.

He had two options.
1. Wait and hope the Dolphins still had interest in him and "maybe" get a whiff of the playoffs
2. Go with a team that wanted him and was one game from the SB and has reloaded to make another serious SB run the next couple of years.

Now take off your blinders and put yourself in his position and look at this from a business perspective.
I am not happy he is with the Jets, but good god there is entirely too much venomous hatred being poured out at this guy. You would have thought his departure was in his prime and has crippled the defense.

Yeah, and chose option 2.  Which is fine.  Each decision came with consequences.  He risked losing money by waiting on the Fins' offer, and he risked losing fans and legacy by jumping to the enemy.

But I don't have to put myself in his shoes.  I have to put myself in mine.  As a fan of the Miami Dolphins, I find choosing to play on your team's most hated rival (one that you've been very vocal about) is messed up.  I think that things like the Ring of Honor are for people who gave their careers to the team.  I think that players that jump ship to the rival for a paycheck don't qualify.  But that's my opinion and I respect yours if you want to continue to honor him.

I think that the Johnny Damon example is a good one.  He had his best years in Boston, helping them win their first title in like 100 years.  Then he went to the Yankees.  Should he be in their Ring of Honor?  I certainly don't think so.

Here is what your Not getting. Along with being a dolphin , especially one from 1997 like him, #2 you hope for the Dolphins to win. #1 is for the Jets to lose at all Costs. He is now being paid to help that along. To keep us out and HELP them win. thats just unforgivable.

The Man gave up 7.5 Million Dollars because he didn't like Washington. This WAS NOT a business move. the only one that wanted him to go from a business perspective was his agent. This was about teaching Bill Parcells a lesson. I'm JT. Show ME respect.  Fuck Him. Pass #99 on to someone else........