The Dolphins Make Me Cry.com - Forums

TDMMC Forums => Anti-Fins Chat => Topic started by: jtex316 on August 11, 2010, 01:59:11 pm



Title: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: jtex316 on August 11, 2010, 01:59:11 pm
Why do I keep reading all of this bullshit everywhere about Pat freaking White?

It's PAT WHITE - he's a total jobber who will last another year maximum in the NFL and who will most likely never complete a pass. What a total waste of a draft pick on some complete hack.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Pappy13 on August 11, 2010, 02:03:05 pm
Don't hold your breath.  I don't think he makes the 53 man roster.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Dave Gray on August 16, 2010, 05:01:24 pm
He had two pretty good kneel-downs at the end of the Tampa game.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Pappy13 on August 16, 2010, 05:34:06 pm
He had two pretty good kneel-downs at the end of the Tampa game.
Lost yardage again did he. :)

Well at least he didn't fail to spike the ball.  Saw one of the Dolphins QB's do that a couple years ago, the ball slipped out of his hand and he had to recover his own fumble and spike it again.  I think that was during the 1-15 season.  I think I quit watching after that.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Landshark on August 18, 2010, 02:39:45 pm
Lost yardage again did he. :)

Well at least he didn't fail to spike the ball.  Saw one of the Dolphins QB's do that a couple years ago, the ball slipped out of his hand and he had to recover his own fumble and spike it again.  I think that was during the 1-15 season.  I think I quit watching after that.

I think you're referring to Cleo Lemon's performance in the Dolphins-Patriots matchup in December 2007.  He had a chance to lead a scoring drive towards the end of the half, and he spiked the ball on the first play when there was plenty of time left.  If I recall correctly, he ran for the sidelines on 4th down near the end zone and failed to stretch out the ball to get the touchdown on another drive.  Not surprisingly he found himself on another team the following season. 

I'm shocked that New England let up in the second half and the Dolphins had a fighting chance in that game.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Pappy13 on August 18, 2010, 04:08:39 pm
No actually I think it was Trent Green.  It was 1st down and they were trying to stop the clock, but when he tried to spike it the ball slipped out of his hand and he had to fall on it.  They they had to line up and run another spike play to stop the clock which brought up 3rd down.  Burned 2 plays just to stop the clock.  I thought I had seen everything prior to that moment.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 18, 2010, 04:10:33 pm


I'm shocked that New England let up in the second half and the Dolphins had a fighting chance in that game.

Cutting a 28 point lead to 21 points isn't much of a fighting chance. 


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Pappy13 on August 20, 2010, 10:39:23 am
Reading more reports that White's days are numbered in Miami.  I just have to wonder exactly what Sparano and Tuna were thinking on this pick.  Was the WildPat the predicted use for him or did they really see him as a true QB?  I don't normally complain about wasted draft picks because the draft is just such a crapshoot anyway, but at least you normally pick a player that seems to fit a need on your team and Pat White really didn't.  They already had Henne and Pennington for QB's and they already had Ronnie and Ricky for RB's.  I just couldn't ever figure what they would do with him even if he did pan out better than he has.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: jtex316 on August 20, 2010, 11:22:04 am
^^ Can we get a link or two to such reports?


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Brian Fein on August 20, 2010, 11:46:44 am
I think he was drafter to give a better arm on wildcat plays since he was a good runner in college.  However, he's simply not big enough to cut the NFL game. 

I think last year in camp they tried him at WR, as I saw him listed on the roster at WR early in camp.  Apparently that didn't work out.

However, it was an experiment gone wrong, and if they are willing to admit the mistake and move on, its a step in the right direction, rather than trying to develop something that just isn't there.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Pappy13 on August 20, 2010, 11:48:55 am
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2010/08/pat-whites-days-with-dolphins-seem-numbered.html


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 20, 2010, 12:06:27 pm
I think White was drafted with the idea of using him in the Wildcat and other gimmick plays.  Such as having someone other than the QB throw the ball down field or passes back to the QB.

White just isn't that talented and from some of the reports I read, not willing either, believing he ought be a standard QB, which he clearly isn't. 


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on August 20, 2010, 02:59:15 pm
I've also read things over the last few years where White wasn't willing to move to another position (which is why the WR thing was short lived). When he was drafted, I remember saying to either Brian or Lil B that I felt they would move him to RB, since he was a great rushing QB in college, and his QB experience would make him very dangerous when they pulled a trick play or two.

Something tells me that after he gets cut, he'll be willing to try other positions in order to stay in the NFL.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 20, 2010, 04:19:48 pm
I've also read things over the last few years where White wasn't willing to move to another position (which is why the WR thing was short lived). When he was drafted, I remember saying to either Brian or Lil B that I felt they would move him to RB, since he was a great rushing QB in college, and his QB experience would make him very dangerous when they pulled a trick play or two.

Something tells me that after he gets cut, he'll be willing to try other positions in order to stay in the NFL.

White has said he would rather play baseball than do that.  And based on what I have read he is a much better baseball player than football player. 


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: fyo on August 20, 2010, 05:20:41 pm
When he was drafted, I remember saying to either Brian or Lil B that I felt they would move him to RB

I thought the same, but when I actually saw him out there, he looked ridiculously small. I know he supposedly put on 18 pounds, but to be a decent RB in the NFL, I think he'd need at least twice that.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Landshark on August 23, 2010, 01:53:13 pm
He didn't even get to play against Jax.  The question is, will he be gone with the first cuts or final cuts?


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Pappy13 on August 23, 2010, 04:10:14 pm
My guess is it will be with the first round of cuts to give him a chance to find another team before the season starts.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Dave Gray on August 23, 2010, 05:36:48 pm
^ Seems likely.

If he's not even getting playing time in pre-season, they won't waste time keeping him around.  I don't think we're going to carry 4 QBs unless White is going to contribute heavily with wildcat or special teams.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Brian Fein on August 23, 2010, 06:36:43 pm
It will be the last cuts.  I would be surprised if they weren't shopping him for a deal.  Maybe pull a 7th rounder for him.  Wasted pick yes, but a 7th rounder is better than nothing. 

Either that or maybe he can sign on with the practice squad.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on August 23, 2010, 07:46:36 pm
It will be the last cuts.  I would be surprised if they weren't shopping him for a deal.  Maybe pull a 7th rounder for him.  Wasted pick yes, but a 7th rounder is better than nothing. 

Either that or maybe he can sign on with the practice squad.

No one will trade a pick for him, because most teams will assume he is going to get cut anyway.
And no dice on practice squad:
Practice Squad Eligibility
According to league policy, only certain types of players are allowed to sign to the practice squad. Players cannot have played more than nine regular season games or been on the active roster for an entire year, nor can players be allowed to spend more than two seasons on the same team's squad unless that team's active roster never dips below 53 players.
 



Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 30, 2010, 12:01:42 pm
No one will trade a pick for him, because most teams will assume he is going to get cut anyway.

I doubt a team will even sign him when he is cut. 


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Dave Gray on August 30, 2010, 03:28:19 pm
I stopped watching about halfway through the 4th quarter.  Did White even get in the game?


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Pappy13 on August 30, 2010, 03:58:50 pm
Yes, but only for a series I believe.  He did complete a pass, his 1st in the NFL?

Actually it was 4 passes.  So I guess it's time to wake up? :)


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 30, 2010, 04:15:34 pm
Yes, but only for a series I believe.  He did complete a pass, his 1st in the NFL?

Actually it was 4 passes.  So I guess it's time to wake up? :)

He still has not completed a pass in the NFL. 

A QB could throw 100 TDs in a single game in the preseason and not one of them would go into the record books. 


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: Pappy13 on August 30, 2010, 04:28:31 pm
C'mon Hoodie have a heart.  He did complete a pass. :)


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: StL FinFan on August 30, 2010, 04:30:27 pm
I kind of feel sorry for the guy.


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 30, 2010, 04:59:13 pm
C'mon Hoodie have a heart.  He did complete a pass. :)

Okay you are right, I guess  it would not be premature for me to book my tickets to Canton for his induction ceremony after his phenomenal series that ended in a punt while playing against players that in two weeks will be applying for jobs at UPS. 


Title: Re: Wake me up when Pat White actually does something.
Post by: CF DolFan on September 01, 2010, 10:03:56 am
I kind of feel sorry for the guy.

White's contract is worth around $4.5 million and includes $2.4 million in guaranteed money. I think he will be just fine compared to the rest of us.