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Title: john clayton ranks henne as 25th best starting qb in nfl Post by: Tepop84 on August 31, 2010, 03:01:53 pm http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview10/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=5489176
when will dolphin fans open their eyes. Although, I do think that Henne is better than sanchez. Title: Re: john clayton ranks henne as 25th best starting qb in nfl Post by: Pappy13 on August 31, 2010, 03:03:32 pm He also gave him a 45% chance of being an Elite QB someday which is a lot better than a few of the other QB's ranked above him currently.
And I don't know why he lists Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco as Elites when neither of them have really proven they are yet in my opinion. Title: Re: john clayton ranks henne as 25th best starting qb in nfl Post by: Sunstroke on August 31, 2010, 03:07:11 pm Clayton has Favre listed at #5 on this list...that should have been clue #1 that this was total rubbish. Title: Re: john clayton ranks henne as 25th best starting qb in nfl Post by: Tepop84 on August 31, 2010, 03:08:18 pm Clayton has Favre listed at #5 on this list...that should have been clue #1 that this was total rubbish. he threw for 33 tds against only 7 picks last year. how is #5 a bad spot for him? Title: Re: john clayton ranks henne as 25th best starting qb in nfl Post by: Sunstroke on August 31, 2010, 03:47:59 pm Ahhhh, I didn't see that this was a ranking for last season...my bad. ::) Brett Favre is 162 years old. He had an anomaly of a season last year. These two items are indisputable facts (though Favre's age might actually only be 156) He isn't the 5th best QB in the NFL right now, that's for sure. Title: Re: john clayton ranks henne as 25th best starting qb in nfl Post by: fyo on August 31, 2010, 03:55:19 pm It seems like Clayton forgot to set a solid premise. The result is a mishmash good, potentially good and good last year. I think it would have been more coherent, had he decided to go just with what he felt they would do THIS season (or how they did last season, or "career" or whatever... just pick one and stick with it).
How can Peyton Manning be trending up? He's overvaluing Brady, esp. given the injury and performance last year, but we'll see. Favre played superbly last year, but I doubt he'll be more than mediocre this year. Age, the ankle, the receivers... nothing looks as good as last year. (Only trending "slightly down"? Really?) Roethlisberger #4? Really? Clear product of a mix-and-match ranking system with no clear premise. Hassel at #17 may be the biggest reach on the list... I don't really disagree much with his Henne rating... hard to know what he can do yet and if I only had a quarterback for 1 season, there are certainly many I'd take before Henne. Looking at the popular opinion (ESPN poll asking you to rank all 32, number indicates "points"): 1 Peyton Manning 405,284 2 Drew Brees 395,687 3 Tom Brady 377,372 4 Aaron Rodgers 359,992 5 Brett Favre 318,932 6 Philip Rivers 311,237 7 Tony Romo 276,642 8 B. Roethlisberger 270,830 9 Matt Schaub 254,357 10 Eli Manning 251,415 11 Carson Palmer 248,240 12 Joe Flacco 243,792 13 Donovan McNabb 241,361 14 Matt Ryan 230,624 15 Jay Cutler 177,124 16 Vince Young 151,934 17 Kevin Kolb 147,912 18 Matt Hasselbeck 145,148 19 Kyle Orton 145,125 20 Mark Sanchez 136,809 21 Chad Henne 129,950 22 Matt Cassel 126,638 23 Matthew Stafford 122,358 24 David Garrard 113,299 25 Jason Campbell 110,838 26 Alex Smith 102,628 27 Sam Bradford 95,111 28 Jake Delhomme 89,392 29 Matt Moore 75,511 30 Josh Freeman 72,823 31 Derek Anderson 71,276 32 Trent Edwards 69,125 33 Byron Leftwich 65,257 34 Matt Leinart 56,533 Title: Re: john clayton ranks henne as 25th best starting qb in nfl Post by: tits muldoon on August 31, 2010, 05:42:29 pm Tru-dat!!! Henne ain't no damn good. How long has he been playing q.b.? NO TOUCH (never had it and never will) Big, tough, s.o.b., leadership skills and a cannon. Afraid he will never be better than a average n.f.l. starter. Matt Ryan will be elite very soon how i wish we would have paid him.
Title: Re: john clayton ranks henne as 25th best starting qb in nfl Post by: Denver_Bronco on August 31, 2010, 10:42:11 pm Brett Favre is 162 years old. Title: Re: john clayton ranks henne as 25th best starting qb in nfl Post by: Dave Gray on August 31, 2010, 10:53:57 pm I'm fine with Henne at 25. It seems pretty accurate, from what we've seen so far. It doesn't mean that he will always stay at 25.
Title: Re: john clayton ranks henne as 25th best starting qb in nfl Post by: bsmooth on September 02, 2010, 08:38:58 pm Where would Bradshaw, Montana, Young and other qb's been rated after their first season?
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