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Title: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: MaineDolFan on September 17, 2010, 03:43:54 pm
TDMMC Power Ten, week 1!

#1.  Saints
Total points:  82
High vote: #1
Low vote: #7

#2.  Packers
Total points:  77
High vote: #1
Low vote: #5

#3.  Patriots
Total points:  70
High vote:  #1
Low vote:  #5

#4.  Ravens
Total points:  58
High vote:  #2
Low vote:  #6
1 member did not vote for this team

#5.  Texans
Total points:  50
High vote:  #1
Low vote:  #9

#6.  Colts
Total points:  37
High vote:  #3
Low vote:  #9
1 member did not vote for this team

#7.  Giants
Total points:  31
High vote: #4
Low vote: #10
1 member did not vote for this team

#8.  Titans
Total points:  28
High vote: #8
Low vote:  #10
2 members did not vote for this team

#9.  Steelers
Total points: 21
High vote:  #3
Low vote: #9
Four members did not vote for this team

#10.  Chiefs
Total points: 9
High vote:  #6
Low vote:  #10
Six members did not vote for this team


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Tepop84 on September 17, 2010, 03:49:24 pm
lol @ the chiefs.  they will probably finish 4-12 this year, but they are in the top 10 now???


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on September 17, 2010, 04:07:44 pm
Wow somebody had the Saints.....the defending Champs at #7? I know it is only week one and it takes a few weeks for these rankings to start leveling out but good lord someone thinks pretty low of them!!!!!!


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Dave Gray on September 17, 2010, 04:40:59 pm
Thanks for the quick work, Maine.

^  I think that the weird rankings are justified at this point.  KC is in my top 10.  I freely admit that they probably won't be by the end of the year, but this isn't a week 17 ranking, it's only after week 1.  KC was very impressive in their win against a team that is normally pretty competitive.

This will all iron out after a few weeks.

Just curious, did the Dolphins get any top 10 votes?


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Tepop84 on September 17, 2010, 04:50:25 pm
the chiefs had 68 yards passing and 135 yards rushing.  their defense gave up 298 yards passing to rivers.  I would say that they were a bad team that got lucky for one week.  9/10 times they lose that game, but it is the NFL, so any team can win.  Their is no way they should be in the top 20, let alone the top 10.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Pappy13 on September 17, 2010, 05:00:12 pm
KC was very impressive in their win against a team that is normally pretty competitive.
Were they really?  If you just look at the stats it appears that SD outplayed them but got beat on turnovers/special teams.

                    SD      KC       
1st Downs           18      9      
Passing 1st downs   14      4      
Rushing 1st downs   4       5      
3rd down efficiency 4-15    1-11      
4th down efficiency 1-3     0-1      
Total Plays         70      49      
Total Yards         389     197      
Passing             280     62      
Comp-Att            22-39   10-22      
Yards per pass      7.2     2.8      
Rushing             109     135      
Rushing Attempts    29      26      
Yards per rush      3.8     5.2      
Red Zone (Made-Att) 1-2     1-1      
Penalties           5-30    3-35      
Turnovers           1       0      
Fumbles lost        1       0      
Interceptions       0       0      
Defensive / ST TD's 0       1      
Possession          37:28   22:32   

   



Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Dave Gray on September 17, 2010, 05:40:59 pm
I watched the game and I was impressed.  Perhaps it's not justified, but it's splitting hairs, because it will work itself out over the coming weeks.  We're all speculating at how good these teams are at this point.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Fau Teixeira on September 17, 2010, 05:55:38 pm
I was tempted to make Miami my #10 team. But I went with the bears I think


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 17, 2010, 06:05:54 pm
I am impressed at the non-homeristicness of the results. 

I think on a lot of fan sites the home team would make the top 10 even though undeserving. 


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: mecadonzilla on September 17, 2010, 07:17:10 pm
I really wanted to select the Dolphins in the top 10, but to break in those ranks, they're going to have to beat teams that are better than the Bills.

Good results, though.  I can't really argue against the top 5.  Thanks for the compiling the data, MaineDolFan.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 17, 2010, 07:42:10 pm
Maine, did you get my PT?  I don't see the message in my outbox.

Anyway, I thought that my choice to leave MIN off would be controversial, but I guess not.

I don't know how you guys do your ranking (and I don't claim that my way is better), but I don't rank teams based on how they played in the last game.  I look at it as: If team A played team B and I had to bet on the results, straight up, who would I pick to win?  Under this philosophy, there's no way I would rank KC one of the top 10 teams in the league, no matter how they played against SD.

Call it the homer card if you like, but I think MIA has been taking way too much heat for the BUF game.  MIA beat a weak division opponent on the road, leading from start to finish (albeit with a late BUF score to make it close), and ESPN dropped MIA 4 spots in the rankings.  Meanwhile, SD loses by a touchdown to a weak division opponent, and they're... also dropped 4 spots.

We'll see what happens after the MIN game.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Sunstroke on September 18, 2010, 01:19:42 pm

KC impressed me in pretty much every area except QB, where Cassel looked lost out there. With Jamaal Charles, T-Jones and Dexter McCluster, they have a sick 3-headed running game with extreme big play potential. They have a lot of young talent on defense as well. I have them in my top-10 this week, and expect them to keep winning and stay there.

I consider San Diego to possibly be the best team to NOT make my top-10 this week.



Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: David Fulcher on September 19, 2010, 05:15:18 am
I watched the game and I was impressed.  Perhaps it's not justified, but it's splitting hairs, because it will work itself out over the coming weeks.  We're all speculating at how good these teams are at this point.
KC impressed me in pretty much every area except QB, where Cassel looked lost out there. With Jamaal Charles, T-Jones and Dexter McCluster, they have a sick 3-headed running game with extreme big play potential. They have a lot of young talent on defense as well. I have them in my top-10 this week, and expect them to keep winning and stay there.

I consider San Diego to possibly be the best team to NOT make my top-10 this week.



I'm with both of you guys, and I've been talking about it quite a bit with my equally football-lovin' friends and my Dad...the Chiefs really impressed me Monday night, regardless of the yardage difference.  The story isn't always told by yardage differences because when you're doing things like returning 94 yard punts for TD's or whatever it was that Dexter returned that one for the score for, as well as the two nice ones (at least) that my no-neck monster boy Javie busted out, you don't have as much yardage to even "work with" as the offense, if you will, plus they're giving the ball right back to SD after punt returns for scores.  Just by the "look test", though, KC appeared young and exciting.  Granted, I take that with a grain of salt when it's opening day, Monday night, at your place against a division rival, but still, there was something about them that screamed to me, "this is gonna be a good team in the not-so-distant future", especially with Pioli behind the wheels.  I'm also a little biased being an SEC fan in general (though unlike some of them around here in AL, I can appreciate college football throughout the land...after all, I am a Michigan fan primarily  ;) ), but I saw young talent all over the field for them.

Not a Chiefs fan by any means, and while they're obviously not in our division, they are in our conference so they can potentially be a threat to us one day as we continue to improve, too, hopefully, but good for them...I don't like seeing teams be crappy unless it's the Pats, Jets, Bills, or Ravens.   :D


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: MaineDolFan on September 20, 2010, 08:19:22 am


Just curious, did the Dolphins get any top 10 votes?

Yes, two members voted for them. 


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: MaineDolFan on September 20, 2010, 08:20:42 am
Maine, did you get my PT?  I don't see the message in my outbox.


Yessir, your results are included.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: CF DolFan on September 20, 2010, 09:08:12 am
I think this is a pretty good top 10 considering the lack of info to go off of at this point of the season.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Brian Fein on September 20, 2010, 03:25:22 pm
Wow somebody had the Saints.....the defending Champs at #7? I know it is only week one and it takes a few weeks for these rankings to start leveling out but good lord someone thinks pretty low of them!!!!!!

That might have been me.  I was just generally unimpressed by the Thursday night, opening night snoozefest game.  If they were powerful, they should have blown the Vikings away, considering how inept the Vikings offense was in that game.  I don't care that they're returning champions, you have to earn the #1 spot, and they just looked "meh" to me on opening night.

We'll see tonight if they've improved against the same 49ers team that got blown out by the mighty, mighty Seahawks.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Dave Gray on September 20, 2010, 03:29:40 pm
I didn't put the Saints at #1, but they were still high on my list.  It's fine, though.  It's too early to tell.  I think they deserve a spot in the top 10, but where doesn't really matter.

I think the teams that will be interesting to track are the teams that lost, but are traditionally good -- Vikings, Cowboys, etc.  I think that the Cowboys would probably beat the Chiefs head-to-head, but you just can't make assumption, especially this early in the season.  There are always a couple of teams that rise up to be great and a couple of teams that fall from grace.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: fyo on September 20, 2010, 03:51:54 pm
I had the Saints #1. No other team had shown anything worthy of taking the spot, IMHO, and I'm not going to try and base my (completely accurate) ranking on just a single game.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Dave Gray on September 20, 2010, 04:03:33 pm
I, personally, had the Packers at #1.  They looked the most dominant in the pre-season (which doesn't amount to anything, I know.)  If this were college, they'd be the equivalent of the #1 in the polls, before the season started.  Since they won, I kept them there.

Where I'm going to have trouble is with teams that weren't on the list at all in the first week, but did well in week 2.  Do they jump a crappy 2-0 team?


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Brian Fein on September 20, 2010, 04:31:08 pm
In my mind, the Cowboys and Vikings may as well be the worst teams in the league.  The Cowboys lost to Chicago and Washington, two teams that, last season, had a COMBINED 11 wins.  The Vikings have a QB who has so far thrown 4 picks and only 1 TD and have scored a grand total of 17 points in 2 games (with one TD handed to them on a platter by Ricky).  Neither of these two teams deserve even one iota of consideration when discussing the league's best teams.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Sunstroke on September 21, 2010, 11:45:23 am
Neither of these two teams deserve even one iota of consideration when discussing the league's best teams.

I don't have either one in this week's PT at all...didn't even consider them.

Speaking of which... GET YOUR NEW PT IN TO MAINE ASAP!!



Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: MaineDolFan on September 21, 2010, 11:51:51 am


Speaking of which... GET YOUR NEW PT IN TO MAINE ASAP!!



Two.

It's 11:52am.

I have two members PT votes thus far.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Sunstroke on September 21, 2010, 12:27:53 pm

You should just use the two people's PTs that already sent them in...those are obviously really good PT rankings. ;)



Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on September 21, 2010, 12:46:41 pm
Sorry being out West a lot of times I do not log onto my computer until after 9:00am (12:00 for you East Coasters) after my morning meetings here in the office. I sent mine in as soon as I logged on!!!!


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Dave Gray on September 21, 2010, 01:26:44 pm
My week 2 PT was tough.  One 2-0 team didn't even make my list.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: Brian Fein on September 21, 2010, 01:56:20 pm
Sent mine.

FYI - You should allow people all day Tuesday to submit their choices.  I personally won't make any picks until MNF is over, and I don't think you should expect it to be the first thing on everyone's mind Tuesday morning.


Title: Re: TDMMC NFL Power Ten, Week 1
Post by: fyo on September 21, 2010, 04:02:07 pm
I second Brian's motion to allow all day Tuesday.

Mine will be along in a few hours...