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Title: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Fau Teixeira on October 24, 2010, 04:07:08 pm Gene Skeretor
Title: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: jtex316 on October 24, 2010, 04:08:02 pm Tony Sparano.
I have seen enough of Tony Sparano. The Dolphins lost this game due to completely ridiculous clock-management and time-out management (or, lack thereof). You just had a 5 minute stoppage in play to review the fumble into the end zone by the QB, which made it 4th down. WHY THE HELL DO YOU BLOW YOUR LAST TIMEOUT before an obvious FG attempt of 19 yards? Poor preparation, poor team management, poor 3-3 team. Sparano is not an NFL caliber football coach. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: jtex316 on October 24, 2010, 04:10:23 pm Gene Skeretor He is one of the NFL's top young officials, and did a phenomenal job in explaining why the Dolphins could not get possession of that fumble. It was not 100% clear that the Dolphins recovered (and as Dierdorf astutely pointed out, you can't simply show the fans the ball a minute after the whistle blows - that's not enough to determine that you did in fact recover the fumble). Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: mecadonzilla on October 24, 2010, 04:11:03 pm So, your whole point is taking a TO to reset the team after a bad call, is the reason why Sporano isn't a NFL head coach?
Good luck defending that. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Fau Teixeira on October 24, 2010, 04:11:38 pm you shouldn't blow the whistle on contested fumbles .. that's what replay is for .. let them get a possession and then make a call on the field .. horrible officiating
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Cathal on October 24, 2010, 04:11:39 pm The ref at the end who should have said it was a touchback as multiple dolphins were on the ball before any steeler got there. But, it would have to be the secondary for all of those 3rd and long conversions.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: badger6 on October 24, 2010, 04:15:58 pm Special teams sucked today again. OK, now the kitten gets it. Say goodnight pussy.
At least the saints got blown out at home, ha ha ha. I love it Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Stinger24 on October 24, 2010, 04:23:03 pm Kickoff coverage >:(
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Tenshot13 on October 24, 2010, 04:24:53 pm Jtex for TROLLIN. Then the Refs.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: dolfan13 on October 24, 2010, 04:32:35 pm hell, you should replay every pile up on a fumble recovery because there is no way to tell who actually recovers the ball until they emerge from the pile with the ball.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Frimp on October 24, 2010, 05:10:32 pm hell, you should replay every pile up on a fumble recovery because there is no way to tell who actually recovers the ball until they emerge from the pile with the ball. Yeah. I've NEVER heard that call before. They usually give it to the first who falls on it, or whoever comes up with it. I love how the whistle blew as soon as the ball came out. I nominate whoever on ST who got burned on the Steelers return. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: dolphins4life on October 24, 2010, 05:11:05 pm refs
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Fau Teixeira on October 24, 2010, 05:12:50 pm I'll refine my shame..
my shame goes to Gene Steretor, a native of Pittsburgh, PA and current resident of Washington PA. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Dave Gray on October 24, 2010, 05:26:42 pm Only Dolphins players are eligible for the goat trailer.
I choose Ronnie Brown for a generally ineffective day, especially when compared to our other RBs. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: bsmooth on October 24, 2010, 05:48:45 pm Ah yes JTex the angsty drama queen finds fault because the refs made a call I have never seen used in any level of football in the almost 30 years I have been watching it.
How pathetic is your life that you have to continually have to go to other teams lives and do nothing but talk crap. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: jtex316 on October 24, 2010, 06:10:57 pm I just want to point out that I made a coherent, logical, and vitriol-free argument as to why the official's call was an excellent one. Instead of defending your stance in an equally-coherent manner, you said:
mecadonzilla Quote So, your whole point is taking a TO to reset the team after a bad call, is the reason why Sporano isn't a NFL head coach? Good luck defending that. No, as I've stated, my "whole point" is that Sparano: 1. Has ridiculous (the bad kind) clock-management skills 2. Has horrible time-out management skills 3. Has poor management skills So, taking a TO to reset the team after the ruling on the field is ~ 1/3rd of my point. Tenshot13: Quote Jtex for TROLLIN. Then the Refs. Thanks. dolfan13: Quote hell, you should replay every pile up on a fumble recovery because there is no way to tell who actually recovers the ball until they emerge from the pile with the ball. Yes, that's exactly what we should do. Because that would have won the Dolphins the game - not the 1-for-5 FG to TD in the Red Zone ratio that the Dolphins enjoyed, or not the lack of Timeouts with Pittsburgh having all three timeouts and at worse, the Dolphins ball at their own 20 if the call was overturned and if Miami had been proved to regain possession of the ball, which would not have even come close to guaranteeing a victory for the Dolphins. Based on this excellent call, we should review every pile up situation. Frimp: Quote They usually give it to the first who falls on it, or whoever comes up with it. No, they absolutely do NOT. But let's say that they did - the Dolphins guy was the first to fall on it. But, you don't know who eventually came up with it (Roethlisberger is so far the only player from either team whom has claimed to recover the fumble at the end of the pile). So, it's a coin-flip, and the Dolphins lost the coin flip. They still could have gotten an offensive series together and gotten into FG range to win it - but they didn't - a fact that a lot of you are conveniently forgetting about. bsmooth: Quote Ah yes JTex the angsty drama queen finds fault because the refs made a call I have never seen used in any level of football in the almost 30 years I have been watching it. How pathetic is your life that you have to continually have to go to other teams lives and do nothing but talk crap. Of all the replies, this one is my favorite. It's sharp, aggressive, and full of venom. It's also badly constructed: "How pathetic is your life that you have to continually have to go to other teams lives and do nothing but talk crap." I "have to" "go to other teams lives"? English write much? At least you beat Sunstroke in playing the "angst" card - because that well hasn't run dry or anything. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: mecadonzilla on October 24, 2010, 07:53:12 pm I just want to point out that I made a coherent, logical, and vitriol-free argument as to why the official's call was an excellent one. Instead of defending your stance in an equally-coherent manner, you said: How is your trolling vitriol free? Your first post was the very stuff of trolling vitriol. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: StL FinFan on October 24, 2010, 08:00:51 pm I don't think that trolling, by definition can be vitriol free, especially given the source of said trolling.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Philly Fin Fan on October 24, 2010, 08:21:42 pm Did we stop the Steelers from getting a 1st down on any 3rd down attempts today? Seriously. The defense usually came up big on 1st and 2nd downs, and then would do nothing on 3rd down. WTH?
They showed a stat at one point that Roethlisberger was 7 of 8 with like 100 and something (138 or 178) yds on 3rd down. It seems to be a recurring theme in a lot of games this year.... Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: dolfan13 on October 25, 2010, 12:05:23 am it was a problem for the secondary, but you got to give a little credit to rapistberger. just the sound of giving him credit makes me want to throw up, but yeah he made some great plays.
henne could learn a little there. being able to be fluid in the pocket (stepping up, sidestepping, shuffling, etc...), really makes it hard on the secondary in maintaining coverage. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: mecadonzilla on October 25, 2010, 01:14:07 am Henne is definitely "mobility challeneged."
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Frimp on October 25, 2010, 02:01:56 am Henne is definitely "mobility challeneged." Yeah so was Marino. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: mecadonzilla on October 25, 2010, 02:16:32 am Yeah so was Marino. Marino made up for his lack of mobility with exceptional passing skills. He also had an uncanny ability to make one step to get out of the way and let his rocket fast release do the talking. Henne has an exceptional arm. He's still working on the rest. I don't know if he can improve his mobility in some little way, but naturally agile he is not. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Phishfan on October 25, 2010, 09:33:01 am But, you don't know who eventually came up with it (Roethlisberger is so far the only player from either team whom has claimed to recover the fumble at the end of the pile). Bullshit. There is video of who came up with it. (http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/files/2010/10/ike-500x373.jpg) Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: JVides on October 25, 2010, 05:19:17 pm ^^^WHY didn't that video appear on CBS as they endlessly replayed the fumble? They made it seem as though no video was available.
Anyway...Gotta give mine to Jason Allen, as he was the most visibly charred member of the Dolphins secondary that gave up 300 yards + to the Steelers' passing game. I don't know if he was supposed to have safety help on the long play to Mike Wallace, but damn. For having sub-4.4 speed himself, Allen looked slow as Wallace blew by him. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Phishfan on October 25, 2010, 05:46:43 pm ^^^WHY didn't that video appear on CBS as they endlessly replayed the fumble? They made it seem as though no video was available. Is it possible you missed it? We knew Miami came out of the pile with the ball where I was. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Pappy13 on October 26, 2010, 12:09:25 pm ^^^WHY didn't that video appear on CBS as they endlessly replayed the fumble? They made it seem as though no video was available. They gave some BS excuse about it taking too long to determine it on video. Apparently this happened like 30 seconds or so after the scrum ensued and they said that's not enough evidence to rule decisively. The whole thing is pure BS and I don't care what the NFL or ESPN says. They MADE the wrong call, they KNEW they made the wrong call and they couldn't care less because they're not about trying to get the call right, they're all about protecting the league from criticism. They WANT you to believe there's no evidence that Maimi recovered the ball. It's a joke.Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Landshark on October 26, 2010, 01:36:24 pm That ref Gene Steratore. From what I've heard, Dolphins fans nationwide are calling his supply business in Pittsburgh and harassing his employees to no end.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Dave Gray on October 26, 2010, 01:38:39 pm ^ That's unfortunate. It was a crap call, but the guy is doing the best he can.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: Philly Fin Fan on October 26, 2010, 01:48:00 pm That ref Gene Steratore. From what I've heard, Dolphins fans nationwide are calling his supply business in Pittsburgh and harassing his employees to no end. Maybe Dolphins fans under the age of 12 are doing that.... Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on October 26, 2010, 03:29:59 pm Maybe Dolphins fans under the age of 12 are doing that.... And probably Tommy lol!!!!! Title: Re: Shame of the Game - Pittsburgh Post by: BigDaddyFin on October 30, 2010, 11:55:30 am as much as it sucks to lose a game that way, bad calls are every bit as much of the game as clock management and playcalling/execution.
If the team focuses on how it got screwed all week, we'll have a lot of trouble with Cincinnati. If Sparano is able to keep them focused and channel how pissed of they are into beating up the bengals and every other opponent on the schedule, then we're going to have a bigtime shot. |