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Title: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: stealth3ltt on December 12, 2010, 07:56:06 pm
Its gotta be Smith.  He dropped 4 potential interceptions today, easy ones at that. He's done this mutiple times this year(dropped picks).  The guy has stone hands.  Someone teach him how to catch a ball


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: StL FinFan on December 12, 2010, 07:58:24 pm
Ugh, the offense sucked today.  I have to say Henne again.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: stealth3ltt on December 12, 2010, 08:03:16 pm
I don't think its Henne today,  he can't pass block, and then throw the ball downfield and run down to catch it.  no one else on the offense helped him today


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 12, 2010, 08:06:35 pm
The offense.  I can't give it to Sean Smith, because even though he dropped some gimmie INTs, he still did he job for the most part today and played solid.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Pappy13 on December 12, 2010, 08:17:05 pm
The coaching.  I've never seen a team so unprepared to play a game in bad weather in my life.  They made zero changes to account for the weather.  Zero.  Before the game, during the game or after the game.  This team is poorly coached, nothing more.  One of the worst in the league.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 12, 2010, 08:43:33 pm
Sal Alosi - he was not only the shame of the game but of the entire NFL. 


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: StL FinFan on December 12, 2010, 08:45:13 pm
Sal Alosi - he was not only the shame of the game but of the entire NFL. 

you have a point


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Dave Gray on December 12, 2010, 08:54:29 pm
I would choose Henne.  He can't hit open receivers.  He can't make any play that are not specifically designed.  He is very good at throwing the ball away, which I actually think is a good thing.  However, he feels over-coached.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: dolphins4life on December 12, 2010, 09:09:29 pm
The entire offense.   


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: TonyB0D on December 12, 2010, 09:25:50 pm
hey when did the Alosi incident occur - im at work now and can check out the whole game archive


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 12, 2010, 09:32:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VILnbYThSA


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: TonyB0D on December 12, 2010, 09:35:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VILnbYThSA

but WHEN was it, I have the best look possible at it but need to knwo when, m not searching thru the whole game feed


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 12, 2010, 09:39:38 pm
but WHEN was it, I have the best look possible at it but need to knwo when, m not searching thru the whole game feed

3rd quarter with 3:08 left. 


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: TonyB0D on December 12, 2010, 09:59:34 pm
nice!!  i checked it out and slowed it down, he CLEARLY moves his knee on purpose.....insane!! 

i would send one of my cousins over to his house to straighten his knees out for him, but they're all jets fans!!


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Landshark on December 12, 2010, 10:05:25 pm
I'm giving it to Dan Henning yet again.  His offense clearly was not prepared.  This game reminded me of the Dave Wannstedt days.  The fact that Henne threw for under 100 yards and the Dolphins won anyway is nothing short of amazing.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: DZA on December 12, 2010, 10:09:26 pm
SHAME goes to the Freakin offense... ::) ::) What a way to bore me for 3 hours.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Jim Gray on December 12, 2010, 10:13:43 pm
Smith defended a bunch of passes.  While I wish he would intercept some of those balls, his coverage is solid.

I have to vote for Henne today.  I'm not asking for 300 yards against a good defense; but 55 yards is just sad.  When he did have opportunities, he missed receivers.  Even when he hits a receiver, he doesn't put the ball in a place where they can continue running.  Also, he didn't take care of the ball, with 2 fumbles.  With Miami in field goal range (a score that likely would have sealed the game), he fumbles the ball away without being hit.  


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: bsfins on December 12, 2010, 10:55:45 pm
To Dave and Jim comments...I agree he's over coached,and I don't think he trusts his receivers are going to be there, run the right route,and fight for the ball at times.I feel Bess is the only one he really trusts....

The one fumble, I don't put on him he got drilled...the other,he flailed around on the turf,was just plain horrible...Ronnie's fumble was just as bad....

I didn't like the game plan...But I think Henne could have done a better job.......

Shame goes to Henne....

Honorable mention

CBS,I don't need 10 shots of Fireman Ed during the game,The Next two weeks, I want 10 shots a piece of Big Pappa Pump,and No throwing a big advertisement over him so you can barely see shit,when coming back from commercial.....


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Brian Fein on December 13, 2010, 01:15:20 am
Henne didn't win us the game, that's for sure.  But he threw the game's only TD. 

The entire offense sucked, not just Henne.  So its gotta go on Henning.  Poor preparation, running game stifled.  No one can catch, and that damn WILDCAT!  When will he stop calling this crap?  Try running out of the I-formation, you might fool a defense every now and then.

I think Henne showed that he's better than Sanchez today.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Dave Gray on December 13, 2010, 01:54:20 am
I can't blame Henning today, at all.  I don't think play calling was the problem.  It was execution.  Drops, check-downs, turnovers and missed receivers.  I could see some big plays called and Henne decided not to throw the ball (which was fine).  Henning can only call the plays, he doesn't go out there and mess up the execution.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: badger6 on December 13, 2010, 05:02:29 am
Henne hands down. I actually kinda feel sorry for him because with the right team I think he would be a solid QB. But as everyone here knows, if you play for the dolphins you have to be the "needle in the haystack" QB to be successful. 


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: dolfan13 on December 13, 2010, 08:48:24 am
henne was pretty bad yesterday. 55 yards total passing?

dolphins won because amazingly, as putrid as henne was, dirty sanchez was worse.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: jtex316 on December 13, 2010, 09:00:38 am
55 Yards and 5 (five) completions, 2 fumbles.

Henne.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: CF DolFan on December 13, 2010, 09:06:46 am
I think Henne played bad but I have a really hard time giving it to him for a couple of reasons. He protected the ball for the most part. I think he took two smart sacks and didn't force things. The game allowed for him to be that conservative but it was also him being smart enough not to reach. We could have easily lost this game by trying to do too much on a day when clearly the whole offense was struggling. We didn't and for that reason alone I think he played it smart.

With that said I can't think of any individual to give it to other than the Jets conditioning coach. What a freakin tool!


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: bsfins on December 13, 2010, 11:03:44 am
I don't have a problem with giving it to Henning,but for the first time I felt,Henne lost confidence in everyone (sort of himself included)...and it showed...It was the first game where I was praying,DON'T throw the ball!.It felt very much like the game against the Bills (a Wanny Game), where Fielder was QB,and we won because Ricky carried the ball a zillion times....It seemed every time Fiedler dropped back to pass,something bad happened....

It almost felt like the CBS Broadcast was streamed directly to Henne's helmet,and everything they said about Sanchez,Henne took it as them talking to him....

It's why I shouldn't do game ball/Shame of the game the same day as the game...because I'm too emotionally attached to it!

Modified to add, I still like Henne,but this game baffled me...


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Brian Fein on December 13, 2010, 11:08:09 am
I gave it to Henning because the offense as a whole sucked balls.  And he is the offensive coordinator.  He is responsible for the offense.  That's how this works, I thought.  You always say "one guy employed by the Miami Dolphins" - If you'd prefer I'll give it to "the whole offense" like everyone else.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: jtex316 on December 13, 2010, 11:27:48 am
...We could have easily lost this game by trying to do too much on a day when clearly the whole offense was struggling. We didn't and for that reason alone I think he played it smart.

This is why the Dolphins are 7-6 this season, with extremely very few touchdowns. They should be 10-3 with that defensive unit.

You can't be a good / playoff-caliber team by hanging in there by a thread each and every week. If you do, you'll win some (@ Jets, @ Packers, @ Vikings) and then you'll also lose some (vs. Pittsburgh, vs. Cleveland).

This team isn't going anywhere by relying on Dan Carpenter for all of their scoring all the time.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Pappy13 on December 13, 2010, 01:20:07 pm
I have a couple of reasons Henne looked so putrid yesterday. 

First of all, the weather didn't exactly lend itself to passing the ball.  Henne wasn't the only one that looked bad.  Sanchez did, the WR's did, EVERYONE looked bad, so I think you have to cut Henne a little slack there.  Even Ronnie lost a fumble. The ball seemed a bit hard to grip.

But the 2nd reason and the one I'm more concerned about is that I think Henne and Hartline had started to develop a chemistry.  Hartline was missed more than Marshall was missed the last couple of weeks.  I know a lot of you don't think much of Hartline, but I think he's been one of Miami's most consistent WR's this year and Henne I think clearly missed him not being on the field yesterday.

Getting back to Miami should help with the weather issue.  With Hartline on IR now, not sure what can be done about that issue.  Someone needs to step up.  Wish that someone would be Marshall.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Brian Fein on December 13, 2010, 02:12:33 pm
^^ Marshall needs to show in these last 3 games why he's one of the best in the league.  I'm getting sick of how many balls he drops.  Seems like 1-2 balls per game, and yesterday was no different.

BTW - Marlon Moore = Ted Ginn


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 13, 2010, 09:44:47 pm
Henne for sure.


Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: CF DolFan on December 14, 2010, 09:33:59 am
This is why the Dolphins are 7-6 this season, with extremely very few touchdowns. They should be 10-3 with that defensive unit.

You can't be a good / playoff-caliber team by hanging in there by a thread each and every week. If you do, you'll win some (@ Jets, @ Packers, @ Vikings) and then you'll also lose some (vs. Pittsburgh, vs. Cleveland).

This team isn't going anywhere by relying on Dan Carpenter for all of their scoring all the time.

I certainly don't disagree with this. Despite this you can't just bench Henne just because. The fact remains he is the best we have and he either gets better or we bring in new blood next year to compete with him. On top of that he has a winning record though we might wish it was better. We are kind of stuck with what we have for the moment. Same goes for Dan Henning though it could be argued an assistant might open things up a little.



Title: Re: Shame of the game - Jets
Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 16, 2010, 06:54:46 pm
I'm going with the offensive line.  Specifically wasn't impressed with their pass protection.