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To repeat a quote Mark Twain made famous...“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

I thought about our offense,and how shitty it is...I'm a big believer that Henne is a square peg,trying to pushed through a star hole...I've not been a fan of Mr Henning,So I thought I'd compare how Henne has done vs other QB's he's coached...Take this for what you want, I thought it interesting..Lots of losing teams, problems scoring,most of his QB's tend to throw more picks than Tds....We know his offense is based upon the running backs,and running the ball so no shockers IMO..The stats don't tell the whole story, and I'm not trying to state that either....

Dan Henning

Houston Oilers
‘72  W-L (1-13 ) - Dan Pastorini - Td -Ints ( 7-12) Scoring offense 25th of 26

‘73’74 college ‘75 ? ? ?

New York Jets
‘76 W-L ( 3-11) - Joe Namath - Td -Ints  (4-16) Richard Todd - Td-Ints ( 3-12) Scoring offense 26th of 28
‘77 W-L  (3-11) - Richard Todd -Td -Ints  (11 -17) Scoring offense 22nd of 28
‘78 W-L (8- 8 )  - Matt Robinson - Td - Ints (13-16 ) Richard Todd - Td-Ints  (6-10) Scoring offense 3rd of 28

Miami Dolphins
‘79 W-L (10- 6) Bob Griese - Td-Ints (14-16) Don Strock Td-Ints (6-6) Scoring offense 11th of 28
‘80 W-L (8-8) David Woodley  Td -Ints (14 -17)  Bob Griese Td-Ints ( 6-4)  Don Strock Td-Ints (1-5) Scoring offense  24th of 28

Washington Redskins
‘81 W-L (8-8) Joe Theismann Td-Ints (19-20) Scoring Offense 10th of 28
‘82 W-L (8-1) Joe Theismann Td -Ints (13 -9)  Scoring offense 12th of 28 Super bowl champs

Atlanta Falcons (Head Coach)
‘83 W-L (7-9) Steve Bartowski Td-Ints (22-5) Scoring offense 10th of 28
‘84 W-L  (4-12) Steve Bartowski Td-Ints  (11-10) Mike Moroski (2-9) Scoring offense 22nd of 28
‘85 W-L (4-12) David Archer Td-Ints ( 7-17) Steve Bartowski Td-Ints (5-1) Scoring offense  26th of 28
‘86 W-L  (7-8-1) David Archer Td-Ints  (10-9) Turk Schonert TD-Ints (4-8) Scoring offense 21st of 28

Washington Redskins
‘87 W-L (7-9)  Jay Schroeder  TD-Ints (12- 10) Doug Williams Td -Ints (11-5) Ed Rubbert Td-Ints (4-1)  Scoring offense 4th of 28
‘88 W-L (7-9) Doug Williams Td-Ints (15-12) Mark Rypien Td -Ints (18-13) Scoring Offense 10th of 28

San Diego Chargers (Head Coach)
‘89 W-L (6-10) Jim Mcmahon Td-Ints (10-10)  Billy Joe Tolliver Td-Ints (5-8) Scoring offense 23rd of 28
‘90 W-L (6-10) Billy Joe Tolliver Td-Ints (16-16) Scoring offense 17th of 28
‘91 W-L  (4-12) John Friesz Td-Ints (12-15) Scoring offense 21st of 28

Detroit Lions
‘92 W-L (5-11) Rodney Peete Td-Ints (9-9) Erick Kramer Td-Ints (4-8) Scoring offense 19th of 28
‘93 W-L (10-6) Rodney Peete Td-Ints (6-14) Erick Kramer Td-Ints (8-3) Andre Ware Td-Ints (1-2) Scoring offense 16th of 28

‘94,’95’,’96 College

Buffalo Bills
‘97 W-L (6-10) Todd Collins Td-Ints (12-13)  Alex Van Pelt Td-Ints (2-10) scoring offense 29th of 30

New York Jets '98,'99 QB coach,2000 Offensive Coord
‘98 W-L (12-4) Vinny Testaverde Td-Ints (29-7 ) Glenn Foley Td-Ints (4-6)  (QB Coach) Scoring offense 5th of 30
‘99 W-L  (8-8) Ray Lucas Td-Int (14-6) Rick Mirer Td-Ints ( 5-9) Vinny Testaverde Td-Ints (1-1) (QB Coach) Scoring offense  19th of 31
‘00 W-L  9-7) Vinny Testaverde Td-Ints (21-25) Ray Lucas (No Starts)  Td-Ints (0-4) Scoring offense 17th of 31

‘01 ? ?

Carolina Panthers
‘02 W-L (7-9) Rodney Peete Td-Ints (15-14) Randi Fasani Td-Ints (0-4) Chris Weinke Td-Int ( 0-3) Scoring offense 30th of 32
‘03 W-L (11-5) Jake Delhomme Td-Ints (19-16) Rodney Peete (0-0) Scoring offense 15th of 32 NFC Champs
‘04 W-L (7-9) Jake Delhomme Td-Ints ( 29-15)  Scoring Offense 13th of 32
‘05 W-L (11-5) Jake Delhomme Td-Ints  (24-16) Scoring offense 8th of 32   Lost in Conf Champ
‘06 W-L  ( 8-8) Jake Delhomme Td-Ints (17-11) Chris Weinke Td-Ints (2-4) Scoring offense 27th of 32

‘07 ? ? ?

Miami Dolphins
‘08 W-L (11-5) Chad Pennington Td-Ints (19-7)  Scoring offense 21st of 32
‘09 W-L- (7-9) Chad Henne Td-Ints (12-14) Chad Pennington Td-Ints  (1-2) Scoring offense 15th of 32

You hit the nail on the head here.  His offense is built around running the ball, solid defense and field position.  It's NOT built around attacking through the air.  The Dolphins defense has done a decent job in stopping opponents from scoring, but it comes up short in one key statistic, turnovers.  Miami is tied for 29th in takeaways.  This type of offense might work on a different team, but it hasn't worked for this one.

I may have missed one but this seemed to be his best season. Does it seem odd that they had many more interceptions(26) than TDs(19)?

Also ... 78 was a long time ago to have peaked!!

(I meant to respond to this earlier,but got busy)

Pat Ryan had 2 more Int's,but as a team they ran for 21 Td's...and they had a pretty bad defense...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/1978.htm (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/1978.htm)