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Title: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 21, 2010, 07:36:30 pm Just read that on rotoworld. Hennig is 69, and is 31st in the league in points scored. So, if he doesn't retire he may actually be fired.
At this point, he should just step down and spare himself from being fired. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: MikeO on December 21, 2010, 08:05:45 pm 1) Too little too late
2) They are ALL gonna be fired on Jan 3rd! lol. If he wants to quit beforehand to save himself the shame, so be it. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: tubba marxxx on December 21, 2010, 09:32:09 pm ^^ you really think Miami's going to overhaul the entire coaching staff..again?
Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Dave Gray on December 21, 2010, 09:42:19 pm If they do overhaul everyone, it will be a shame. Unfortunately, fans are reactionary and stupid. I hope that Ross isn't the kind of owner that listens to fans of the team over smart football minds.
Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 21, 2010, 09:57:47 pm Hire the DC of the Browns to be the head coach of the Dolphins....AFCE will be a complete three ring circus.
Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: TonyB0D on December 21, 2010, 10:10:41 pm If they do overhaul everyone, it will be a shame. Unfortunately, fans are reactionary and stupid. I hope that Ross isn't the kind of owner that listens to fans of the team over smart football minds. i think he's too busy finding minority celebs to be part owners Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Tenshot13 on December 22, 2010, 12:29:47 am I'm just asking for one more year out of Sparano...One more year to show us something, then move on to another coach if it's more of the same.
Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Brian Fein on December 22, 2010, 01:28:05 am You fire the coach, you reset to zero. Then while you wait 2-3 years for the next guy to bring in all "his people" and "his players" and completely revamp everything, the team goes 5-11 every year and people get fed up and want to fire him too.
Let's stop this cycle of silliness and get some continuity at head coach for a change. He's only had 3 seasons to pick up a 1-15 team. Let the guy work. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Tenshot13 on December 22, 2010, 01:35:28 am You fire the coach, you reset to zero. Then while you wait 2-3 years for the next guy to bring in all "his people" and "his players" and completely revamp everything, the team goes 5-11 every year and people get fed up and want to fire him too. Let's stop this cycle of silliness and get some continuity at head coach for a change. He's only had 3 seasons to pick up a 1-15 team. Let the guy work. I agree, but I also think that four years is the limit. Having said that, he gets us into the playoffs next year, then give him another year. That would make him 2-2 getting us in the playoffs. I'm all for that. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Diehard_Dolfan on December 22, 2010, 05:38:47 am I'm with giving Sparano another yr... but, this ultra conservative play for the field goal not to win crap has to stop!!!
I don't understand how coaches expect their defenses to bail them out all the time... If you know your defense has kept you in the game all day how can you keep telling them just go out and stop them again when you're playing for FG's? I played defense my entire life and it sucked to loose games because your offense kept playing not to loose rather than attacking the other defense. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: MikeO on December 22, 2010, 06:18:58 am ^^ you really think Miami's going to overhaul the entire coaching staff..again? They have no choice! The team sucked this year. Coaching was a HUGE part of it. Sparano was terrible this season. You bring in Dansby and Marshall and break the bank for them and you see no improvement at all. None! In fact we regressed with those 2! 1-6 home record. Even though "announced sell-outs" its been half empty stadium since the New England home game. The fans gave up on this team early on. Ross is losing money hand over fist. And the team failed on every level. The ONLY way Sparano is safe is if with the LOCKOUT Ross puts this off for a year. Doesn't give Sprano an extension and Sparano is a lame-duck coach next year working without a new deal. Meaning Ross pretty much gives up on next year just to save a few bucks. Which i wouldn't agree with that, but I would understand Ross's logic behind it with this unknown LOCKOUT looming. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: MikeO on December 22, 2010, 06:19:57 am You fire the coach, you reset to zero. Then while you wait 2-3 years for the next guy to bring in all "his people" and "his players" and completely revamp everything, the team goes 5-11 every year and people get fed up and want to fire him too. Let's stop this cycle of silliness and get some continuity at head coach for a change. He's only had 3 seasons to pick up a 1-15 team. Let the guy work. When TB fired Dungy and hired Gruden did they wait 2-3 years? When Cowher retired and Tomlin took over did they wait 2-3 years? Please! When Rex Ryan took over for Mangini were they NOT in the AFC Championship game immediatly with a rookie QB? Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: MikeO on December 22, 2010, 06:43:59 am http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2010/12/sparano-hasnt-gotten-endorsement-but-gives-one-to-henning.html
Ross and Sparano not speaking Tony Sparano has not seen Dolphins owner Stephen Ross is some time and consequently has not received any assurances he will continue to be the Dolphins head coach in 2011. But, in case you're wondering, he is endorsing offensive coordinator Dan Henning as his guy. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Brian Fein on December 22, 2010, 09:32:01 am When TB fired Dungy and hired Gruden did they wait 2-3 years? When Cowher retired and Tomlin took over did they wait 2-3 years? Please! When Rex Ryan took over for Mangini were they NOT in the AFC Championship game immediatly with a rookie QB? how many of those teams were 1-15 when the new coach took over?Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Pappy13 on December 22, 2010, 09:54:56 am ^^ you really think Miami's going to overhaul the entire coaching staff..again? No, not the entire coaching staff, just the head coach, offensive coordinator, special teams coach and maybe a few others.Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Pappy13 on December 22, 2010, 09:56:21 am You fire the coach, you reset to zero. Then while you wait 2-3 years for the next guy to bring in all "his people" and "his players" and completely revamp everything, the team goes 5-11 every year and people get fed up and want to fire him too. Cuz the last time Miami fired the head coach and brought in a completely new regime we went from 1-15 to 11-5. Just sayin'.Let's stop this cycle of silliness and get some continuity at head coach for a change. He's only had 3 seasons to pick up a 1-15 team. Let the guy work. Sometimes you just lose the players and simply bringing in a new coach is all you need to turn things around. I can't guarantee it will work, but there's no assurances that Sparano next year won't have a meltdown of Wannstadtian proportions either. Keep him another year and the next coach might be looking down the barrel of a 1-15 season too. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Pappy13 on December 22, 2010, 09:57:35 am I'm with giving Sparano another yr... but, this ultra conservative play for the field goal not to win crap has to stop!!! You can't have one without the other. That IS Sparano. He' not going to change, that's ALL he KNOWS.Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Brian Fein on December 22, 2010, 10:07:17 am ^^^ wrong. I don't attribute that to Sparano. I think all you guys have misguided hate.
This is the guy that calls the plays. He is the problem. Sparano can't veto him on every play. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Pappy13 on December 22, 2010, 10:16:35 am ^^ You are in serious denial. You think Sparano brought him in to run a west coast offense? No. He brought him in to run the offense you have seen in Miami the last 3 years. Run first, pass second. Maintain field position. Don't make mistakes on offense, capitalize on mistakes on defense. He just got done saying that Henning has done a "Tremendous" job. I don't care if that was false praise, he still believes that Henning was doing what he was brought in to do.
So what do we have? One of the worst rushing offenses in the league. One of the worst special teams in the league. One of the worst turnover differential teams in the league. The problems go SO MUCH MORE DEEP THAN PLAYCALLING! I'm sorry, I wish it were different, but it's not. It's staring you right in the face and you don't want to look at it because it hurts to think that we have to start over again. Well I'm telling you that we can either start over again NOW when the team is still an average team and find someone who can make it great, or we can wait....wait till they run it into the ground completely and we are like 4-12 and the next head coach has to start from SCRATCH. Yes, I believe that. Based on how this team has performed in the last 6 weeks, how can you NOT believe that? Earlier in the year, I gave Sparano a pass because they were playing a very tough schedule and actually playing some of those teams very tough, but the last 6 weeks is when the Dolphins should have made their move. Just the opposite has occurred. They are playing their worst football this year and their worst football in the 3 years that Sparano has been here. The WORST. Even if Sparano were to turn it around, you're looking at maybe another 8-8 or 9-7 season next year and that's looking at the POSITIVE side of things. If it goes bad, like it has the last 6 weeks, you're looking at a 4-12 or 5-11 team next year. Look, I get it, you want to believe that Sparano can pull another 11-5 out of his ass. So would I, but look at the facts. We were coming off a 1-15 season and had an extremely easy schedule. New England had the misfortune of Tom Brady being hurt in the first game. The Jets had a meltdown of their own in the making with Brett Favre. The Dolphins came up with a new offensive scheme that gave defenses fits for a year. It was a PERFECT storm. You can't expect that to happen again for a while. In the last 2 years with all the odds being even, the best that Sparano has been able to accomplish is 8-8 and that doesn't even look like a safe bet these days. You honestly gonna tell me that back to back 7-9 seasons is reason to believe? And this isn't about Cowher or Gruden or anybody else. This is about Sparano. Hell Bill Parcells knew the way this thing was going and distanced himself from it. You think that Bill would have jumped ship if he was convinced that this was a future SB team in the making? Please. He knew that he'd done what he could to right the ship, but it was gonna take a lot longer than he anticipated to get this thing back into the playoffs and beyond. He didn't want to stick around that long. He wasn't convinced that Sparano was the guy, what makes you so sure? Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Phishfan on December 22, 2010, 11:39:29 am I actually expected to come on here and see two pages about Henning. Man is the egg on my face. Maybe we should rename this thread because it is all about Sparano.
I've been expecting Henning to step down all along. For all the talk about him being fired, there was rumor all season that it wouldn't come to that. Hopefully it is true. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Spider-Dan on December 22, 2010, 11:49:39 am So what do we have? We still have a reasonable shot at sending our kicker and punter to the Pro Bowl.One of the worst rushing offenses in the league. One of the worst special teams in the league. One of the worst turnover differential teams in the league. I don't think "worst special teams in the league" is a fair assessment. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: Pappy13 on December 22, 2010, 12:05:10 pm We still have a reasonable shot at sending our kicker and punter to the Pro Bowl. Fair enough, the Kicker and Punter are pretty good provided the kick isn't blocked and even though the kicker did just have a stinker of a game. But for a coach that prides himself on "hidden yardage" the punt and kick coverage teams are poor at best. All the things the head coach preaches a team needs to be good at are things that need fixing. What does say about your head coach? I don't have a problem with Sparano's coaching philosophy, I have a problem with his ability to put that coaching philosophy into action on the field. I don't care if they bring in another guy with the exact same philosophy as Tony, as long as he can get the players to play that way.I don't think "worst special teams in the league" is a fair assessment. Title: Re: Miami Herald: Most in Organization Feel Hennig to Retire Post by: MikeO on December 22, 2010, 05:30:40 pm No, not the entire coaching staff, just the head coach, offensive coordinator, special teams coach and maybe a few others. yeah maybe we can get Sal Alosi for strength and conditioning coach! ;) |