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So, I'm basically a lurker here but just felt that I had to ask this.

Does Ross really know what he's doing?

In the days of Wayne, we knew he just wanted to win and did everything he thought was in best interest of this team to do that- he opened his checkbook.  Jimmy, Saban, Parcells, etc. Say what you want about hindsight of these decisions on bringing these people in but at the time he was not questioned at all about them and I don't think anyone knew that all of those would have fallen they way they did.  All of those at the time were looked at "Sound", "Exciting",  fixes when they happened. Of course we all know now what happened with these.

Main thing was that he had our faith. Well, at least he had mine, I suppose, in his football decisions even if they turned out as a disaster in the end.

This whole "Dolphins North" & "Dolphins South" split that some media has reported has me concerned. Ross has been all about  "The Celebrity" and has done NOTHING on the actual game play area. He brings in Buffett, Gloria, Lopez, and even the Williams sisters. Suddenly we have a night club at a football stadium that no one goes to. He had left all game play decisions completely up to Parcells, and now Ireland/Sporano. But now he is forced to make major decisions here as those people now need to be reviewed and possibly replaced. 

This will be a test of Ross's ability to own this team.  Does he have the knowledge, intelligence, and experience to make this call this early in his ownership. More importantly does he have the balls? A football team is not run like a corporation- Wayne found that out the hard way.  No one cares about the celebrity sightings until you field a team that can compete, if they care at all. (Personally not my cup of tea).

What he does here will pave the way for everything to come for years.

And God help us if suddenly Snookie is introduced as a minority owner next since he thinks it will bring more people to the stadium. Just kidding.

The question is does Ross have the money?  If Ross wasn't worried about the 24 million or something that it will cost to bring in a guy like Cowher, then I think he'd do it.  I'm not sure that he is willing to do that, but he might be.

I don't live near Miami so someone explain the north and south thing to me please.

I couldn't give a crap about the celebrity ownership.  It's just something done to bring in a few non-football people to sellout the stadium.  The problem is that if you don't have a winning team on the field to fill the stadium 85%, then you'll never get the extra 15% non-football fanatics.  The celebrity ownership is such a minor issue its not even worth discussing.  Spending money doesn't guarantee a playoff appearance, it has to be wisely spent money.

A lot of people are asserting that Ross is going to do this, he's not like Huizenga and he's gonna clean out the bums with napalm-force.

What makes you so sure? Nothing I've seen from Ross makes him any different from Huizenga in terms of the football operations. He's no Robert Kraft, Jerry Jones, Al Davis or Dan Snyder.

Isn't that a good thing?

Lets see the Cowboys and Redskins were both 6-10 this year.  Just goes to show you it doesn't matter how much money you spend.

The Cowboys are actually a VERY bad example this year.  The Cowboys spent VERY little last offseason.  This has been recounted numerous times this year in Dallas.  Jerry and Wade felt the team really didn't need much as they had won a playoff game the year before and brought in very few players to compete for spots.  This is also why they felt they could take a flyer on Dez Bryant when others were afraid of his off-field issues.  Now everyone is saying that there are problems up and down the entire roster.  Amazing how things change in 1 year.

By the way, under Wade Phillips the Cowboys were 1-7.  After they fired Wade the team went 5-3 with almost no other changes.  On top of that franchise QB Tony Romo played for most of that 1-7 record and career backup Jon Kitna played for most of that 5-3 record.  Sometimes all that's needed is a new head coach.

Yep! It's more to do with $$$ than balls. If Ross wants to be a guy who wants to win, he fires Tony. If he is just content being an NFL owner, then he will probably keep Tony and that is a bad sign long-term for this franchise. It's nice to have an owner who is willing to spend what it takes to win at all costs.

Yeah but those owners (Jones and Synder) interfere with the football side. If Ross just writes checks and lets the football people do their jobs, then spending money hand over fist is a good thing.

Guess he not only doesn't have the BALLS (Carl Peterson tries to have that role aparently), he has no brain. Ross should NOT be an owner of this team, or any team for that matter. This is what I was worried about.

Welcome to the site, LesPaul!

What do you mean by the North/South thing?  I've not heard of it.

Isn't ross a multi-BILLIONAIRE? I can not see him getting his panties in a wad over 24 million on a coach. He does not want people like Cower to have the control for some reason and he seems to have a hard on for Ireland which is a joke.

Hate digging up old posts, but this was questioned three years ago and its still in question. I say no. Franchise is a joke. Every year I say it can't get worse, but they find a way. They sure do.. Can't imagine Ross will do nothing, but I seriously have my doubts he knows what he's doing as an owner. Compared to Kraft? Night and day.

Not about having "balls" its about doing the right thing. When you fire a coach every couple years the "good coaches"...ie Cowher, Gruden, Fisher...etc don't even want to talk with you let alone take your job even when you offer the most money!!

Ross made the cardinal mistake when he talked to Harbaugh and still hadn't fired Sparano. He has been trying to dig out from that ever since. Firing Philbin puts him back at square one. It isn't going to happen. Nor should it!

Ok, they Fire Philbin tomorrow, who you gonna replace him with? Bill O'Brien isn't coming here. Now when Houston and Detroit with 2  owners who everyone respects are out there in the market for a coach. Who else is out there? Who do you want to hire. It's easy to say Fire Philbin, but who you gonna hire? And you can't say hire anyone because that is foolish. Name the names.....who's it gonna be?

Have to keep Philbin for 1 more year, at least, no one else worthy right now.

just like players....coaches in a new role (Philbin going to head coach) there is a learning curve. I know on a day like today its tough to take a step back and look at the big picture, but ya hired the guy for a reason so ya gotta give him more than 2 years.

the one thing I would like to see is Philbin take over the playcalling, but not sure that happens. He and Sherman are too tight and have too much of a history for him to fire or remove duties from Philbin.

Sure, and Philbin did 'ok' during the wins after the Richie/Incog stuff. But keep Philbin prob means keeping Ireland. THAT is doubtful. Sure Rex keeps his gig with the new GM in there, and proved it. But that's rare. Ireland goes, Philbin likely would follow. Which lessor of two evils would you want? Keeping Ireland to keep Philbin assuming a new GM wouldn't keep him, or cleaning house?

if they fire Ireland, they will replace him in house most likely so it wouldn't have any effect on Philbin's status.

Case in Point....the Cleveland Browns give Chud a 5 year contract. He has no QB on his roster who is any good. After 1 year he is fired.

Good luck to the Jimmy Haslam and the Browns trying to hire a "decent" head coach now. What coach who has a brain and is any good would want to work for that owner and that organization!  Ross can't be like Haslam. Owners like that will never have success!

You say this all the time. We finished with the same record as the jets who have no talent on offense and lead the league in turnovers this year. We were 28th in the league in offense. We did not get better this year despite all the money spent. All we had to do was beat two bad teams at he end of the year. We scored 7 FRIGGING points total in the last two games. Doing nothing will get this team nowhere. Doing nothing is not the answer.

Any first time HC will take that job.

that don't mean they are better than Philbin!! LOL LOL LOL

So who do you want to hire. Give me some realistic names of guys. And don't say Bill O'Brien, Jon Gruden, Bill Cowher....they ain't coming here!

I don't want cowher or gruden. I certainly do not want a staff that cannot motivate a team to score more than 7 points over the span of two games against two bad teams. When all you have to do is one and you are in.

Tony Dungy or Lovie Smith.  Bill Polian as GM

Dungy won't coach again. If you could get Lovie...now that's a realistic name. And one I wouldn't be against actually

Please no to both of those coaches.  Dungy and Lovie are both terrible.

Dungy made the worst franchise in the league a perennial playoff team.  He's pretty good.

If you think Dungy is bad you are lost. And Lovie got fired off a 10 win season and did take his team to the Super Bowl. He is a great coach.

I would back Lovie Smith for coach.

Yea, he is good at making horrible teams into mediocre/average teams, unless he has Peyton fall in his lap, then they are above average.  

Also don't be shocked if Sherman falls on the sword for his son-in-law. If the heat is on Philbin to make staff changes, Sherman could step down in return Philbin could promise to retain Zach Taylor as QB coach (Taylor is Sherman's son-in law.)

Sherman rides off into the sunset, his son-in-law still has an NFL job....and Philbin isn't put in an awkward position

As much as it disgusts me, I believe Ireland ain't goin' anywhere.

Philbin SHOULD stay, I mean he is fairly new at this gig, at least 4 years is what I say. 8-8 with someone else's groceries; a WR turned QB, no RB and a swiss cheese OL and DL. He did ok. Let's just hope some changes are made.