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Title: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tepop84 on January 03, 2011, 03:51:54 pm Why is his perfomance getting shit on by everyone? He had a 7.73 any/a.
He lead 6 drives for Miami on the day and lead them to 1 td. Drive 1 (miami 33) - 4 plays, 12 yards punt drive 2 (Miami 13) - 6 plays 46 yards Ricky williams fumble on 1st down on ne 41. drive 3 (miami 25) - 3 plays 8 yards punt drive 4 (miami 19) 5 plays 34 yards turnover on downs drive 5 (miami 9) 6 plays 37 yards, punt drive 6 (miami 20) 5 plays 80 yards td. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: CF DolFan on January 03, 2011, 04:00:57 pm Are you stating this was a steller performance?
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tepop84 on January 03, 2011, 04:03:10 pm Are you stating this was a steller performance? I am stating that people who think henne and thigpen played similarly yesterday are crazy. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: Pappy13 on January 03, 2011, 04:04:16 pm I am stating that people who think henne and thigpen played similarly yesterday are crazy. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tepop84 on January 03, 2011, 04:05:25 pm He had 1 good drive that was aided by a long pass interference penalty in garbage time of a garbage game. This proves exactly what? His perfomance yesterday was better than all but 3 of henne's career starts. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: StL FinFan on January 03, 2011, 04:05:42 pm Neither one of them is starter quality.
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: Pappy13 on January 03, 2011, 04:29:09 pm His perfomance yesterday was better than all but 3 of henne's career starts. Based on what, your magical any/a stat? Unfortunately your any/a stat is meaningless when it comes to wins and losses. Henne was 7-7 in games this year where he took the majority of the snaps and is 14-14 lifetime. Thigpen was 0-2 this year and has I believe 1 career win to his credit when he has taken the majority of snaps in a game. Yeah, most of those starts were for KC when they weren't very good, but it's not like Miami has been some powerhouse while Henne has been playing. Thigpen has been given plenty of opportunities to produce and hasn't fared any better than Henne. Most anyone who pays no attention to any/a and judges more based on his production on the field can see that. Ultimately you are judged on wins and losses and how you play coming off the bench in 38-7 blowouts are meaningless to most people. But it doesn't surprise me that you are trying to make it into something as your agenda has been very clear all year long. That doesn't make you right, just consistent. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tepop84 on January 03, 2011, 04:41:05 pm any/a is production on the field. Miami was coming off a 11-5 season and henne brought them down to an under .500 level.
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: StL FinFan on January 03, 2011, 04:42:30 pm A first place schedule, poor play and poor coaching brought them down. No one did it single handedly.
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tubba marxxx on January 03, 2011, 04:46:01 pm omg..GET OVER THE 2008 SEASON!!
we had a bullshit schedule and the Jets had Favre and the Pats didn't have Brady..we overachieved that season and it's showing now..you can't blame back to back 7 - 9 seasons on one player..so PLEASE GET OVER IT Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tepop84 on January 03, 2011, 04:46:14 pm If thigpen starts next year, this team will be good.
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tubba marxxx on January 03, 2011, 04:59:05 pm you're an idiot
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tepop84 on January 03, 2011, 05:02:08 pm you're an idiot thanks, maybe i should start listening to the people on this site who thought chad henne was good and that ronnie brown is a top 5 nfl back. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: MikeO on January 03, 2011, 05:05:38 pm Stop. By the time Thigpen got in the game New England had the game won and was playing their 2nd team.
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tepop84 on January 03, 2011, 05:07:09 pm Stop. By the time Thigpen got in the game New England had the game won and was playing their 2nd team. their defense played pretty much the entire game champ. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: MikeO on January 03, 2011, 05:10:05 pm their defense played pretty much the entire game champ. once up by 20-30 pts they stoped playing for real and were playing soft zones and prevents. And key starters were on the bench watching. They weren't going all out tough guy!! Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tubba marxxx on January 03, 2011, 05:10:23 pm haha keep getting hard on the Dolphins failure dude..there's already a forum for that..assuming you could read you would know where to post your garbage
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: MikeO on January 03, 2011, 05:12:48 pm And there was this today...
The plausibility of a Tyler Thigpen era in Miami might have crumbled after his dreadful performance against the Patriots in Week 17. In Thigpen's defense, he was thrown into a game versus the best team in the NFL with an uninspired team behind him. An impossible task. Jeff Ireland and Tony Sparano have stood firmly behind Thigpen's abilities, and the 'Fins backup has drawn some comparisons to Tony Romo due to his evasiveness. But a terrible performance against the Bears in Week 11 still lingers, and it is highly unlikely that any new coach will begin his tenure by starting Thigpen. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: MikeO on January 03, 2011, 05:13:23 pm haha keep getting hard on the Dolphins failure dude..there's already a forum for that..assuming you could read you would know where to post your garbage I'm sorry, Tyler Thigpen is the next Montana. ::) ::) Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tepop84 on January 03, 2011, 05:16:15 pm And there was this today... The plausibility of a Tyler Thigpen era in Miami might have crumbled after his dreadful performance against the Patriots in Week 17. In Thigpen's defense, he was thrown into a game versus the best team in the NFL with an uninspired team behind him. An impossible task. Jeff Ireland and Tony Sparano have stood firmly behind Thigpen's abilities, and the 'Fins backup has drawn some comparisons to Tony Romo due to his evasiveness. But a terrible performance against the Bears in Week 11 still lingers, and it is highly unlikely that any new coach will begin his tenure by starting Thigpen. the person who wrote that is a retard. Dreadful performance? Fucking moron. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tubba marxxx on January 03, 2011, 05:23:27 pm yeah dude..keep hoping for Thigpen..woo hoo that's the spark we needed!! ::)
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tepop84 on January 03, 2011, 05:26:38 pm yeah dude..keep hoping for Thigpen..woo hoo that's the spark we needed!! ::) He is a good player. He had 158 net passing yards and 21 yards rushing in 1 half of football with no turnovers. (he led 6 of 12 miami drives) Somebody who would call that performance dreadful is clueless. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tepop84 on January 03, 2011, 05:29:35 pm and i don't give a shit what this retarded college freshman thinks. http://bleacherreport.com/users/314351-scott-altman
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: tubba marxxx on January 03, 2011, 05:31:57 pm HAHAHAHAAHAH THIGPEN MVP!!!!!...I'M WITH YOU DUDE..THIGPEN IN 2011!!..NEXT YEARS CHAMPS RIGHT HERE BABY!!!!!
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: MikeO on January 03, 2011, 05:33:32 pm He is a good player. He had 158 net passing yards and 21 yards rushing in 1 half of football with no turnovers. (he led 6 of 12 miami drives) Somebody who would call that performance dreadful is clueless. someone who would call the performance good or base anything on it or read anything into it is clueless Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: badger6 on January 03, 2011, 06:37:30 pm I'll restate my opinion. While I know Thigpen is not the future of this team, I am also convinced that Henne isn't either. Having said that, anyone that says that Thigpen is garbage has to admit that Henne is just as shitty on the field.
Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: MikeO on January 03, 2011, 06:38:58 pm I'll restate my opinion. While I know Thigpen is not the future of this team, I am also convinced that Henne isn't either. Having said that, anyone that says that Thigpen is garbage has to admit that Henne is just as trashy on the field. They both suck. That doesn't mean Thigpen should be re-signed to a multi-year deal (since he is a free agent) and be given a chance to compete for the starting QB job. The guy isnt' a starting QB in the NFL. He is a career back-up and not even a good back-up at that. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: Pappy13 on January 03, 2011, 06:50:13 pm I'll restate my opinion. While I know Thigpen is not the future of this team, I am also convinced that Henne isn't either. Having said that, anyone that says that Thigpen is garbage has to admit that Henne is just as shitty on the field. Thigpen threw a total of 62 passes and only had 1 start. Henne threw 487 passes and had 15 starts (if you count the 1 game that Penny played about 3 snaps). It's not really fair to compare their years.Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: badger6 on January 03, 2011, 07:05:41 pm Thigpen threw a total of 62 passes and only had 1 start. Henne threw 487 passes and had 15 starts (if you count the 1 game that Penny played about 3 snaps). It's not really fair to compare their years. Your absolutely right, it's not fair to compare their 2010 year or stats. Thigpen didn't really have a chance to prove himself, which I don't blame on anyone, just a fact of life. While on the other hand Henne has proven plenty, mostly negative. And judging by the overwhelming public and media opinion on Henne, the majority of us are tired of seeing him every week. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: MikeO on January 03, 2011, 08:36:28 pm Thigpen threw a total of 62 passes and only had 1 start. Henne threw 487 passes and had 15 starts (if you count the 1 game that Penny played about 3 snaps). It's not really fair to compare their years. Tyler Thigpen was a 3rd string Qb who was lucky to be on an NFL team and not playing in Canada or the UFL or whatever that league is called. The man can't play. He sucks! If he isnt even in the NFL next year I will not be surprised. If Pennington doesn't get injured then Thigpen wouldn't even have been active for any games this year. Enough with the "Give Thigpen a Chance" nonsense Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: Doc-phin on January 04, 2011, 10:57:05 am Didn't Thigpen hit two guys in the head on 3rd down plays (one to a TE the other to Moore)? Then there were two plays that I can think of as crappy drops... one by Marshal and one by Bess which were both easy catches.
Also factor in that Ricky fumbled right as the team was getting into scoring position and the defense couldn't get off the field and I would say Thigpen had a pretty solid game. Did you notice how they blitzed Henne but not Thigpen? That alone tells you something. I say keep Thigpen regardless of starting vs backup. They can figure that out once we get a new coordinator and QB coach. Last thing... It is time to give Tepop some credit for his foresight. Henne does not appear to be the guy to allow us to be a top tier team. Henne's two minute awareness alone tells me he is not the guy. Regardless of coaching, any idiot knows when you don't have the time to dump a ball off down the middle and he screwed that up multiple times this year. He has a good arm and can at times show good accuracy, but he is too slow in decision making and mobility to overcome his inconsistency. Title: Re: Thigpen vs. NE Post by: Pappy13 on January 04, 2011, 11:18:01 am Didn't Thigpen hit two guys in the head on 3rd down plays (one to a TE the other to Moore)? Then there were two plays that I can think of as crappy drops... one by Marshal and one by Bess which were both easy catches. Also factor in that Ricky fumbled right as the team was getting into scoring position and the defense couldn't get off the field and I would say Thigpen had a pretty solid game. Which only confirms what Henne supporters (me) have been saying all year, that the problems go much deeper than QB, regardless of whether it's Thigpen or Henne.Did you notice how they blitzed Henne but not Thigpen? That alone tells you something. What it tells you is that Thigpen is more mobile and does a better job of creating with his feet. No argument there. However that doesn't mean that Thigpen is a better option at QB, unless he does something with that ability. He hasn't proven he can.Last thing... It is time to give Tepop some credit for his foresight. Henne does not appear to be the guy to allow us to be a top tier team. Henne's two minute awareness alone tells me he is not the guy. Regardless of coaching, any idiot knows when you don't have the time to dump a ball off down the middle and he screwed that up multiple times this year. He has a good arm and can at times show good accuracy, but he is too slow in decision making and mobility to overcome his inconsistency. Well it's not like anyone here was saying that Henne was the savior of the team. Let's say that I agree that Henne sucks. Did Henne give up 38 points to New England? No that was the defense and special teams doing that. Did Thigpen invigorate the offense when he got in there? No, he couldn't get anything going in the 2 chances that he had. He looked as confused as Henne ever did this year when he started against Chicago. He did nothing on 6 drives and then was helped by a long New England penalty to get a TD in garbage time against New Englands 2nd string. Does that make him the saviour of this team? Hardly. If Henne sucks than Thigpen isn't any better which means he sucks too. Which is more likely, that Thigpen sucks as bad as Henne or that Thigpen is great and just hasn't gotten his chance to show it yet? He had plenty of chances in Kansas City to prove how good he was and they let him go for Matt Cassell. No offense to Matt Cassell, but he isn't any more a savior to a team than Henne is.That's just my opinion, I could be wrong. |