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Title: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: MikeO on January 04, 2011, 05:13:51 am
Looks like Ricky has played his final game for the Fins.

Impending free agent Ricky Williams criticized Dolphins coach Tony Sparano during a radio spot Monday, and reiterated that he doesn't intend to return to Miami in 2011.

Williams called Sparano a "micromanager," and said the third-year coach "lost the locker room" at the end of the season. The 33-year-old running back also expressed frustration with his role, which is arguably warranted considering he outproduced Ronnie Brown for much of the year. Despite past claims he would retire after the season, Williams says he'd like to "have a chance to play a lot and be a part of something big next year (elsewhere)."


Ricky also threw Henne and Marshall under the bus

When asked about the main difference between the Patriots and Dolphins, he replied, “They have a quarterback.” Chad Henne finished the season with 15 touchdowns and 19 interceptions and was benched twice.

And he was critical of Brandon Marshall for the way he spoke and acted negatively toward Henne in recent weeks.



And the knife in the back...


“I like watching the Jets play,” he said. “Because of LT. I’m an LT fan. And I like the fact that the Jets run the ball.”




http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2011/01/03/an-angry-reflective-ricky-williams-says-hes-likely-done-with-the-dolphins-doesnt-hold-back-on-criticism-of-tony-sparano-and-teammates/


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: MikeO on January 04, 2011, 05:25:22 am
I find it funny. Ricky was upset Wannstedt used him too much. Now Ricky is upset that Sparano didn't use him enough.

Ricky might be back smoking again. He is making no sense


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: dolfan13 on January 04, 2011, 07:48:57 am
wow... what a complete and utter douchebag.

he would fit the jets well. full of old, overpaid, "me" guys.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: hordman on January 04, 2011, 07:51:56 am
he would fit the jets well. full of old, overpaid, "me" guys.

especially if he's the dude in the videos rubbing and kissing Michelle Ryan's feet

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Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: CF DolFan on January 04, 2011, 07:57:46 am
I think the micromanaging thing Ricky says makes a ton of sense. This is the single biggest thing that Henne apoligists have used to explain his decline this year.

I am what is considered a tough coach and I can tell you there is a complete breakdown when people start playing scared to make a mistake. You can't cross the line between playing disciplined and playing afraid to make mistakes.  Once the player starts playing scared they will regress every single time.   


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: dolfan13 on January 04, 2011, 08:09:16 am
he only talks to the media, and speaks his mind when he gets paid for it.

what a whore that guy is


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 04, 2011, 08:44:18 am
He hinted at two team he would like to play for -- neither will make Dolfans happy -- Patriots and Jets.

Jets are pretty crowded at RB as it is, with most of their guys under contract for next year. Only Tony Richardson is a FA.  Most of the Patriots RBs are FA, the only one who is not is Woodhead. 


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: bsfins on January 04, 2011, 10:44:45 am
My initial feelings first...Fuck you Ricky...Go fuck yourself....Tough shit,because they didn't walk in and give you a hug everyday? Get some class,no matter the opinions of this franchise,you don't deserve to wear that emblem...you're part of the tarnish on the logo...

Ok, Now my logical side,bye bye....Personally I didn't want you back,I've not been a fan of yours since you came back...I feel, Honestly the R&R stuff was bullshit....You wanted all the glory,but none of the blame,Ronnie kept the spotlight off of you...No one talks about Ricky,and Ricky pouting as he walks  back to the side line...


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: Pappy13 on January 04, 2011, 10:58:26 am
I love Ricky.  He speaks his mind.  He didn't do it during the regular season because that would be undermining the orginization, but now that the season is over, if you really want to know what the problems are according to Ricky, just ask.  He'll tell you.

Sparano,  Henne, Marshall.  Yeah those guys and a lot of other guys too.  Other than Cameron Wake, I was not impressed with a single Dolphin player this year and that includes Jake Long but probably because he was playing hurt for a large part of it.  A total failure like that suggests the problems start at the top.  The very top.  From Bill Parcells on down, 2010 was a disaster.

And now we get to watch all of it sans Parcells again in 2011.  I can't wait.  Maybe a work stoppage isn't such a bad thing afterall.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: fyo on January 04, 2011, 11:17:36 am
Other than Cameron Wake, I was not impressed with a single Dolphin player this year and that includes Jake Long but probably because he was playing hurt for a large part of it.

WTF? Long was great this year. The lone bright spot on our offensive line. I re-watched quite a few games looking specifically at o-line play and he was pretty much flawless.

As for being impressed... Karlos Dansby impressed the hell out of me. Best player on the team, IMHO. He cleaned up behind the leaky d-line like nobody's business. Even did well in coverage.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: dolfan13 on January 04, 2011, 11:26:14 am
WTF? Long was great this year. The lone bright spot on our offensive line. I re-watched quite a few games looking specifically at o-line play and he was pretty much flawless.

As for being impressed... Karlos Dansby impressed the hell out of me. Best player on the team, IMHO. He cleaned up behind the leaky d-line like nobody's business. Even did well in coverage.

u really notice the drop-off in player abilities when dansby is out and crowder is left to fend for himself.

ricky is such a douche its not even funny... he's honest, and speaks his mind to folks that are willing to pay him for that access. for ricky, it's me, me, me, i, i , i. he's just trying to make a buck now on the way out, and hoping he gets a new contract with someone now to pay for all those kids he has. hey ricky, i thought this was your last year and you were going to retire?

what a freaking coward you are ricky. why not be a man about things and express your feelings to the people you have problems with face to face.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: JVides on January 04, 2011, 11:35:08 am
As far as Ricky's comments, I tend to agree with him. 

On being used improperly:  both he and Ronnie Brown were completely underused this year.  Both have reputations as grinders who get bigger chunks of yards as games wear on and defenses tire, but often only got token carries in the first half and almost nothing in the second. 

On Sparano being overbearing:  Yeah, I can definitely see this.  Players have been hinting at this all season, explaining how Sparano always has something to say to you when you come off the field, and that no one escapes his criticism.  I could see that becoming too much as the season wears on.

On admiring LT and the Jets:  Why not?  LT's the best RB of his generation.  Why wouldn't Ricky admire him?  Why wouldn't Ricky be jealous that the Jets and Pats could become successful so quickly and remain successful for a long period of time, respectively?  Especially since he's been stuck in neutral for his entire career on a team that just cannot seem to improve?

On only speaking to the media when paid:  Why not?  His post-it contract's a joke, he may still be on the hook to Huizenga for $8 Million or whatever it was, and he's got a bunch of kids.  I'm not saying all that's someone else's fault, I'm just saying I don't fault the guy for maximizing his revenue while he's still relevant.

I'm no fan of Ricky Williams.  I've distrusted him ever since his "retirement".  But I'm not going to slam him just because, either.  To me, he spoke the truth.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: hordman on January 04, 2011, 11:46:31 am
As for being impressed... Karlos Dansby impressed the hell out of me. Best player on the team, IMHO. He cleaned up behind the leaky d-line like nobody's business. Even did well in coverage.

you got that right, he came in did his job and never opened his mouth like someone else that plays the LB position.  I thought he was a great pick-up in the off-season.  I'd take 10 others like him on DEF.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: Pappy13 on January 04, 2011, 11:52:23 am
WTF? Long was great this year. The lone bright spot on our offensive line. I re-watched quite a few games looking specifically at o-line play and he was pretty much flawless.

As for being impressed... Karlos Dansby impressed the hell out of me. Best player on the team, IMHO. He cleaned up behind the leaky d-line like nobody's business. Even did well in coverage.
Alright, I'll give you that Dansby was pretty good too, forgot about him since he's been out the last couple games.  Long was not great.  He was good, but not as dominant as in the past, I attribute that to him being hurt.  Bright spot on this offensive line is not saying much.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: Thundergod on January 04, 2011, 11:57:58 am
As far as Ricky's comments, I tend to agree with him. 

On being used improperly:  both he and Ronnie Brown were completely underused this year.  Both have reputations as grinders who get bigger chunks of yards as games wear on and defenses tire, but often only got token carries in the first half and almost nothing in the second. 

On Sparano being overbearing:  Yeah, I can definitely see this.  Players have been hinting at this all season, explaining how Sparano always has something to say to you when you come off the field, and that no one escapes his criticism.  I could see that becoming too much as the season wears on.

On admiring LT and the Jets:  Why not?  LT's the best RB of his generation.  Why wouldn't Ricky admire him?  Why wouldn't Ricky be jealous that the Jets and Pats could become successful so quickly and remain successful for a long period of time, respectively?  Especially since he's been stuck in neutral for his entire career on a team that just cannot seem to improve?

On only speaking to the media when paid:  Why not?  His post-it contract's a joke, he may still be on the hook to Huizenga for $8 Million or whatever it was, and he's got a bunch of kids.  I'm not saying all that's someone else's fault, I'm just saying I don't fault the guy for maximizing his revenue while he's still relevant.

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...and WTF? Has anyone been to the anti-fins section lately? Ricky's just expressed everything that most of us have been bitchin' about all year. Henne sucks, Sparano sucks and Marshall's a douche. Ya'll get pissy at the strangest things. Ok...


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 04, 2011, 12:12:25 pm
Ricky says the same thing we've all been saying and he's a douchebag?


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: bsfins on January 04, 2011, 12:24:53 pm
Sorry Jvides,thunder...I disagree with both of you on Ricky,I agree we should have ran the ball more (use Cobbs more, Hillard more,hell even polite)...BUT....Ricky's Stats,carries,yards,avg are almost identical to what he had in 2008....When you lean on him he fumbles...Injury to Ronnie last year, we needed him to carry the ball more,I think he got the delusions of his past....

I think they should all shut up....Not just Ricky,Marshall too...


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 04, 2011, 12:26:11 pm
Ricky says the same thing we've all been saying and he's a douchebag?

Actually he is saying one thing that is different.  He is planning on changing teams.  Other than one rant by Maine which I doubt he sticks with, I don't think many of you are will be rooting for another team next year.  


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: Dave Gray on January 04, 2011, 12:44:01 pm
Ricky says the same thing we've all been saying and he's a douchebag?

Yeah, kinda.  It's bad form to talk poorly about your coach to the media.  It shows a lack of character, I believe.  I prefer people who say "thanks for the opportunity" and move on...not throw their colleagues under the bus.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: bsfins on January 04, 2011, 12:51:58 pm
IMO very Terrell Owens Like...Hmmm Talk about wanting to go to play for another team while still employed by your current team,throwing other people under the bus on the way out the door...


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: Pappy13 on January 04, 2011, 12:58:10 pm
Yeah, kinda.  It's bad form to talk poorly about your coach to the media.  It shows a lack of character, I believe.  I prefer people who say "thanks for the opportunity" and move on...not throw their colleagues under the bus.
Well that might be better politically speaking for the team and definately during the year I don't want people airing their grievances to the media, but I prefer honesty this time of year.  Guys that were there in the locker room and on the playing field have a better take on it than you and I or at least they should.  I'd like to hear what they honestly think.  Now maybe that's not real kind and maybe it's a bit biased too, but I'd still like to hear it.  I think it's good to air the dirty laundry so it can be addressed rather than let it sit in the locker room for another year stinking the place up.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: dolfan13 on January 04, 2011, 12:59:56 pm
^^^ he never opens his mouth once the entire three years under this regime, then at the very end on the way out as he is getting paid for access to his thoughts, he talks a whole lot of crap about everything.

that is the base definition of the word douchebag.

listen to the interview, and he sounds stoned. he just talks in circles, makes no sense. again, he's a perfect fit for what the jets are after in the makeup of their football team. overpaid, old, me guys. not the type of guys that win championships for you. good riddance clown.

btw - darlington this morning on joe rose show said unequivocally that ricky does not in any way speak for the majority of that locker room. his feelings are in no way representative of folks inside.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: Pappy13 on January 04, 2011, 01:08:28 pm
^^^ he never opens his mouth once the entire three years under this regime, then at the very end on the way out as he is getting paid for access to his thoughts, he talks a whole lot of crap about everything.

that is the base definition of the word douchebag.
Depends on why he did it.  Granted that I wish he would have left out the part about the Jets or the Patriots, that's douchey, but if he said the rest of what he said because he really would like to see the Dolphins get better, then I don't have a problem with him opening his mouth about what he thought the problems were.

btw - darlington this morning on joe rose show said unequivocally that ricky does not in any way speak for the majority of that locker room. his feelings are in no way representative of folks inside.
Just like Ricky's comments you have to take that with a grain of salt.  Those guys might be looking out for themselves and hope to be back with the Dolphins next year.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: Kid Dynamite on January 04, 2011, 01:12:22 pm
As far as Ricky's comments, I tend to agree with him. 

On being used improperly:  both he and Ronnie Brown were completely underused this year.  Both have reputations as grinders who get bigger chunks of yards as games wear on and defenses tire, but often only got token carries in the first half and almost nothing in the second. 

On Sparano being overbearing:  Yeah, I can definitely see this.  Players have been hinting at this all season, explaining how Sparano always has something to say to you when you come off the field, and that no one escapes his criticism.  I could see that becoming too much as the season wears on.

On admiring LT and the Jets:  Why not?  LT's the best RB of his generation.  Why wouldn't Ricky admire him?  Why wouldn't Ricky be jealous that the Jets and Pats could become successful so quickly and remain successful for a long period of time, respectively?  Especially since he's been stuck in neutral for his entire career on a team that just cannot seem to improve?

On only speaking to the media when paid:  Why not?  His post-it contract's a joke, he may still be on the hook to Huizenga for $8 Million or whatever it was, and he's got a bunch of kids.  I'm not saying all that's someone else's fault, I'm just saying I don't fault the guy for maximizing his revenue while he's still relevant.

I'm no fan of Ricky Williams.  I've distrusted him ever since his "retirement".  But I'm not going to slam him just because, either.  To me, he spoke the truth.

Couldn't have said it better myself.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: dolfan13 on January 04, 2011, 01:22:23 pm
ricky, on his way out of town, now becomes the official spokesperson of the miami dolphins players. great job ricky, great leader, that's the type of guy that is going to lead you to a championship.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: tepop84 on January 04, 2011, 01:23:49 pm
ricky, on his way out of town, now becomes the official spokesperson of the miami dolphins players. great job ricky, great leader, that's the type of guy that is going to lead you to a championship.

?  Did you want him to say this during the year and take complete control away from sparano?


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: dolfan13 on January 04, 2011, 01:43:09 pm
he says nothing about what he did to help the team with what he felt were things that were off track.

for example, he complains about a lack of focus this past week. says nothing about him approaching such and such coach to talk about what he thought the team was at. nothing about how he did something to make things better.

just totally throws everything and everyone under the bus, makes no mention where he went wrong, what he could have done better, and makes no mention as to how he tried to help.

pretty arrogant, hypocritical, selfish, basically all qualities of a person that don't contribute in any way to building a successful organization.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: badger6 on January 04, 2011, 01:49:35 pm
As far as Ricky's comments, I tend to agree with him. 

On being used improperly:  both he and Ronnie Brown were completely underused this year.  Both have reputations as grinders who get bigger chunks of yards as games wear on and defenses tire, but often only got token carries in the first half and almost nothing in the second. 

On Sparano being overbearing:  Yeah, I can definitely see this.  Players have been hinting at this all season, explaining how Sparano always has something to say to you when you come off the field, and that no one escapes his criticism.  I could see that becoming too much as the season wears on.

On admiring LT and the Jets:  Why not?  LT's the best RB of his generation.  Why wouldn't Ricky admire him?  Why wouldn't Ricky be jealous that the Jets and Pats could become successful so quickly and remain successful for a long period of time, respectively?  Especially since he's been stuck in neutral for his entire career on a team that just cannot seem to improve?

On only speaking to the media when paid:  Why not?  His post-it contract's a joke, he may still be on the hook to Huizenga for $8 Million or whatever it was, and he's got a bunch of kids.  I'm not saying all that's someone else's fault, I'm just saying I don't fault the guy for maximizing his revenue while he's still relevant.

I'm no fan of Ricky Williams.  I've distrusted him ever since his "retirement".  But I'm not going to slam him just because, either.  To me, he spoke the truth.

Sums it up nicely for me.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: Dave Gray on January 04, 2011, 02:11:25 pm
I love Ricky, as many of you know.

And I don't have a problem with honesty, but there are places to say these things, like behind closed doors to Ross, but I don't think what is essentially "I'm not coming back ... by the way, your coach blows" is productive.  If he was staying with the team, he should bring his concerns to Ross.  If he's not staying with the team, his comments are not intended to help the team anyway.

It's a dick move, even if accurate.


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: masterfins on January 04, 2011, 04:06:29 pm
This is really classless on his part to throw your teamates under the bus.  He had gained back some of my respect the last couple years, but this justs sets things back to when he abandoned his team.  The only statement that concerns me is that he said Sparano "lost the locker room", if the rest of the team feels this way Sparano needs to go.  Ross needs to investigate this with the player leaders.  Wanny's looking for a job, maybe he'll come back??


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 04, 2011, 04:34:17 pm
His comments are accurate IMO, but I don't like how he is voicing his opinion on the way out as opposed to during the season when they might have helped.

His is 100% right though when he says the difference between us and the Pats is "they have a Quarterback".


Title: Re: Ricky goes off on Sparano, says he won't return to Miami
Post by: MikeO on January 04, 2011, 05:54:17 pm
Ricky says the same thing we've all been saying and he's a douchebag?

yeah because you don't throw your teammates under the bus.