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Title: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: jtex316 on January 19, 2011, 09:56:40 am
As with the previous threads, use your discretion to cast your vote and do us a favor and explain your reasoning.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: jtex316 on January 19, 2011, 10:06:32 am
As you can see, I provided a list of memorable playoff losses. Not all of the playoff losses are listed here, so vote for the last option and explain if your worst playoff loss does not appear here. I'm definitely expecting some of you to get the historical significance of some of these games (For example, 1974 and 1985).

I voted for the 1999 season's playoff loss at Jacksonville. Not only was the score unbelievable lopsided, it was both Dan Marino's and Jimmy Johnson's last NFL football game played or coached, which was a significant "turn of the page" point in Miami Dolphins history.

The Dolphins had just come off a highly emotional win at Seattle the week before, and if they could have capitalized in Jacksonville, would have played Tennessee for the AFC title (I never thought much of Tennessee back then - after all, this was the season of the Music City Miracle, so they were extremely lucky to be there in the first place. If the Dolphins could have beaten the Jags and went on to face the Rams...maybe Marino could have engineered the come from behind win that Steve McNair was one yard short of doing?)

By the way, that Miami win against Seattle was the last NFL game ever played at the Kingdome.

That loss was a missed opportunity for a Wild Card team like Miami to come off an emotional big win on the road and ride Dan Marino one final time before the sunset of his career - but instead, they completely flopped against a team with an inflated 14-2 record.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Jim Gray on January 19, 2011, 10:23:14 am
^Joe has made the case that I would have made.  The Jax game was not only humiliating, it was the end of the Marino era and broke JJ.  It was the last time that I felt Miami had the team that could win it all.  It opened the door for Wanny and all the misery that came after.  IMHO, in hindsight, it was the worst day in franchise history, even worse than our SB loses. 

Thanks Joe, for bringing up such a horrible memory.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Pappy13 on January 19, 2011, 10:47:38 am
New England in '85.  No way the Patriots should have been in the SuperBowl that year.  If the Dolphins don't screw that game and have like 8 turnovers or something, it would have been a rematch of the Monday night game that prevented Chicago from going unbeaten that year.  The lead up to that game would have been huge.  Even if Chicago would have blown out Miami in the rematch (maybe), it would have been fun to watch as opposed to Wild Card New England getting stomped.  That was Dan's really only other shot at a SuperBowl as the defense fell apart after that year. 

Really, Really, Really wish we could have that game back.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: jtex316 on January 19, 2011, 10:53:59 am
Even though it's early in the voting, I'm already surprised that no-one has selected the 1994 game.

That was a game where Miami was up 21-3 at halftime (i think that was the score). But they were destroying San Diego. They completely fell apart and lost when Stoyanovich couldn't convert from 40+. If my memory serves me correctly, they would have faced Pittsburgh and then probably beaten their sorry asses and moved on to the Super Bowl, where I know that the Dolphins would have put up a much better fight than the Chargers did over the 49ers.

That was also a team that could have gone deeper than they did.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: JVides on January 19, 2011, 11:12:22 am
How about the 29-10 loss to the Bills, where our defense acted like it had never before seen a screen pass?  We had just beaten San Diego 31-0 and were looking quite solid.  That sucked bad...


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Brian Fein on January 19, 2011, 11:49:15 am
I picked the Oakland game.

Coming off a huge Wild Card win over the Colts, they travel across the country.  Hopes were high.  But alas, Wanny showed up unprepared and got stomped. 

I think that game was the beginning of the end for the Dolphins.  I consider the Baltimore game in 2008 to be an anomaly.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on January 19, 2011, 02:33:19 pm
I went with the Jacksonville game for many of the same reasons listed above....while watching that game I knew it was Dan's last and the Phins would never be the same. I was excited that it was Jimmy's last as I hated him but if I only knew what was in store with the Stache I probably would not have been near as excited.

That San Diego game killed me.....I still remember that Natrone Means stepped out of bounds at the two yard line. Then watching Stoyo miss that kick was devastating. Most of those losses in the 90's just killed me. I knew we had SuperBowl potential with all of those teams.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Dave Gray on January 19, 2011, 03:29:51 pm
I picked the San Diego game.  While the Jax loss was a huge disappointment, I didn't feel like we really had a shot of going anywhere that year.  Against the Chargers, it felt like our year.  And to miss the kick....what a gut-wrenching loss.  I remember being in high school and being totally devastated.

The losses later, though painful, came during the years where we were on the decline.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Frimp on January 19, 2011, 03:43:15 pm
Jax


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: dolphins4life on January 19, 2011, 04:13:53 pm
The Denver 38-3 was painful for me.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: CF DolFan on January 19, 2011, 04:23:06 pm
The Jax game seemed to last forever. In fact .... I think they just scored on us again!!  :'(


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: jtex316 on January 19, 2011, 04:36:04 pm
No one taking the "Sea of Hands" game? Missed shot at a 3-peat of Super Bowls by a miracle catch at the end of the game?


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Phishfan on January 19, 2011, 06:22:26 pm
^^^ Most of this board can't remember it or wasn't alive. It is tough to be scarred by something you don't remember. Getting shelled 62-7 (until today I didn't even know what the final score was) will scar you forever.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: norad34 on January 19, 2011, 09:09:50 pm
No one taking the "Sea of Hands" game? Missed shot at a 3-peat of Super Bowls by a miracle catch at the end of the game?

I'm old enough to remember that game and to me, the way that Oakland won the game just tore my heart out. You're right Jtex, Miami would have been the first team to go to the Super Bowl four consecutive seasons and the first to try for a three peat. I can't understand how Stabler got the ball off and it went to Clarence Davis through three Dolphin players. Mike Kolen the LB had the best shot at intercepting the ball.

There are two playoff games that stand out as classics...the Longest game on Christmas Day 1971 when Miami beat Kansas City in Overtime and the Sea of Hands Game.

That game took something out of the Dolphins. Even though they continued to win (with the exception of a 6-8 record in 76), that game was like a dark shadow over the franchise until Marino came to town.



Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Dave Gray on January 19, 2011, 10:20:35 pm
I think you guys are misremembering the Miami/Jacksonville game.

We never really had a chance in that game.  We weren't even competitive that season.
We were 9-7.  The Jags were 14-2.

On top of that, we lost 5 out of 6 regular season games going in to the playoffs (on the road, with the 6 seed.)

Sure, it sucked because we got our asses handed to us, but everyone saw that ass-kicking coming.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: dolphins4life on January 20, 2011, 01:04:55 am
The Jax game seemed to last forever. In fact .... I think they just scored on us again!!  :'(

I was in sixth grade at the time.

I watched the end of the first half and the second half.  I remember Fiedler's TD pass that should have been a pick.

Also remember the sick feeling I had afterwards.       


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Phishfan on January 20, 2011, 09:26:57 am
I think you guys are misremembering the Miami/Jacksonville game.

We never really had a chance in that game.  We weren't even competitive that season.
We were 9-7.  The Jags were 14-2.

On top of that, we lost 5 out of 6 regular season games going in to the playoffs (on the road, with the 6 seed.)

Sure, it sucked because we got our asses handed to us, but everyone saw that ass-kicking coming.

So what in that makes it not the worst then? Just because Miami wasn't a Super Bowl threat that season doesn't mean getting hammered like that is any less bad in my eyes. That was the type of game that is a swing factor as a child is looking for a team to root for.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Dave Gray on January 20, 2011, 01:36:19 pm
In short, losing games that you're supposed to lose isn't as painful as losing games you're supposed to win.

In the San Diego game, the Super Bowl was a real possibility that year.  Against the Jags, if we hadn't gotten our ass kicked then, we'd just have gotten it kicked in the next week.  We were an inferior team compared to the other playoff teams, in that year.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Frimp on January 20, 2011, 01:56:45 pm
The worst thing about the Jacksonville game is that Jay Fiedler scored more points on the Phins than Mark Brunell did.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 20, 2011, 01:58:26 pm
New England in '85.  No way the Patriots should have been in the SuperBowl that year.  If the Dolphins don't screw that game and have like 8 turnovers or something, it would have been a rematch of the Monday night game that prevented Chicago from going unbeaten that year.  The lead up to that game would have been huge.  Even if Chicago would have blown out Miami in the rematch (maybe), it would have been fun to watch as opposed to Wild Card New England getting stomped.  That was Dan's really only other shot at a SuperBowl as the defense fell apart after that year. 

Really, Really, Really wish we could have that game back.

Six turnovers, 4 TO differential. 

The 1985 Patriots may quite possibly been the weakest team to ever win a conference championship. 


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Phishfan on January 20, 2011, 02:28:24 pm
In short, losing games that you're supposed to lose isn't as painful as losing games you're supposed to win.


That makes sense. I look at it a bit different though. The San Diego loss was painful, but the Jacksonville loss was embarrassing.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Dave Gray on January 20, 2011, 02:56:23 pm
Don't get me wrong, the Jax lost sucked, but not even because of the playoff implications.  I just remember thinking "so this is how it ends for Dan?"

That was the heartbreaking part...not the actual loss, for me.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Pappy13 on January 20, 2011, 04:07:34 pm
Six turnovers, 4 TO differential. 

The 1985 Patriots may quite possibly been the weakest team to ever win a conference championship. 
The Pats probably shouldn't have even been in that game.  If I remember correctly the previous game was practically handed to them on a platter as well.  Going into the game, I was supremely confident that Miami would win.  I guess the Dolphins were too as they played like they had partied all week long leading up the to game.  Maybe they were just busy reading the newsclips about a potential rematch with Chicago as well.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: dolfan13 on January 21, 2011, 12:10:13 pm
New England in '85.  No way the Patriots should have been in the SuperBowl that year.  If the Dolphins don't screw that game and have like 8 turnovers or something, it would have been a rematch of the Monday night game that prevented Chicago from going unbeaten that year.  The lead up to that game would have been huge.  Even if Chicago would have blown out Miami in the rematch (maybe), it would have been fun to watch as opposed to Wild Card New England getting stomped.  That was Dan's really only other shot at a SuperBowl as the defense fell apart after that year. 

Really, Really, Really wish we could have that game back.

i was a little kid at that game in the orange bowl, and i still remember it to this day. the jets run this year kinda reminds me of that pats team...


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 22, 2011, 11:44:56 am
i was a little kid at that game in the orange bowl, and i still remember it to this day. the jets run this year kinda reminds me of that pats team...

Are you kidding?  Jets are a considerably more talented team than the 85 Patriots. 


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: BigDaddyFin on January 22, 2011, 03:30:48 pm
31-14 at NE.  The whole last 25 years of the franchise is different if we win that game.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Dolarltexas on January 23, 2011, 04:38:36 pm
Gotta be Jacksonville.  That's still the only time I was getting condolence e-mails from friends from all around the country.  I was never so humiliated for anyone to know that I was a Dolfan as I was in the weeks after that disguisting game. 


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on January 24, 2011, 12:57:48 am
I too voted Jacksonville.  I can't even remember most other playoff losses (in part because it's been so long  ::)) but the other one that really hurt was against San Diego.  I remember Stan Humphreys jumping around like an ass celebrating his win as my team got eliminated from the playoffs.  I also specifically remember a RB (Means?) clearly stepping out of bounds on a long run but because replay wasn't around yet they never called it back.  However, watching my team and my childhood hero get trounced in embarrassing fashion is the winner as all time worst.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: masterfins on January 25, 2011, 02:28:22 pm
Jax game definately.  As soon as I read the topic that game came to mind before I even read any of the choices.  Even if you are not expected to win the game, to be humiliated as bad as the Fins were was not expected.  I have never seen a team quit as badly as most of the team did in that game.  I still look back to that game as the as the start of the miserable slide this team is still trying to recover from.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: DZA on February 24, 2011, 06:22:14 pm
1999. the game that retired Jimmy J  and Dan Marino.  The game that made me sick to my stomach.


Title: Re: Worst Dolphins Non Super Bowl Playoff Loss?
Post by: tubba marxxx on April 25, 2011, 10:49:36 pm
Valid arguments have been made for all the others, but it has the be the Jacksonville game..the blowout score was a horrible way for Marino to end his brilliant statistical career, and a blatant sign that he was not meant to win a Super Bowl..it's a shame, but....c'ste la vie