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We've advanced to round 2, which consists of 16 girls.  We're going to continue doing this in heats for the time being, to ensure that the favorites continue to advance.  I've re-seeding everyone based on popularity, so these decisions should continue to get more difficult as we progress.

I have also decided to lock the first round threads, so that they fall off the first page and people see the new polls.  I know there was some discussion in there...just continue it here. 

Jennifer P.
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Amy
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Michelle
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Natalie D.
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was the pun intended?

No, but it's funny you mention that, because I specifically tried to word it in a way that wasn't pervy, so I called them "groups" instead of "heats" in the title.  Additionally, I named this round after ex head-coaches and I was very aware of the impending "Johnson heat."

Since I couldn't post this on the other thread before it was locked, size has nothing to do with milk production.  You should have seen some of the looks I got when I said I was going to breastfeed my kids.  Even my tiny ones could have fed a small African village. That is all. ;)

Speaking of breast milk, I remember when I learned (a long time ago) that women can lactate from hearing a baby cry.  That was pretty jaw dropping to me.  ...not sure why.

I think Sunstroke was just trying to create a metaphor.

Probably, but I wanted to point it out anyway, for those who might think attraction to large ones is some kind of evolutionary selection.

From what I have read, humans developed external breast (as opposed to other mammals who are internal) because of the evolution of our faces to flat.  A baby runs a huge risk of suffocating to if the mother was completely flat, however, just relatively small ones are all that are needed to prevent this. 

Interesting.

Yeah, Hoodie was right...I was just dipping a toe in the pool of metaphoric hyperbole there.

Personally, I think Dave should have gone "the other direction," and used as many sexual innuendos as possible in the titling. ;)

In this heat, I think Jennifer has aroused enough support in coming this far to be able to slide in a little further, while Amy has erected a fan base of her own, and should offer some stiff competition as they go down the stretch.

Not sure.  But dogs, cats, monkeys and most other mammals other than cows & us have them internal.

Speculation: Cows might be a case of bigger = more milk and the evolutionary change was in fact breeding post domestication.  

More speculation: I think even with humans larger equals more milk capacity.  Someone like you did fine with one baby at a time, but might not have had the capacity to feed triplets while a larger woman would be able to.  

Actually, it's supply and demand.  It was really interesting when I starting giving a bottle during the day and breast at night that I just stopped producing milk during the day.  Yes, I'm a dork.

@Sunstroke: LOL well done  You should write enzyte commercials.

Dave round 1 you did team colors...which is fair and equal.  There is nothing more prestigious about being in aqua vs. orange.   

However, with coaches I dunno if this is fair to all the girls.  Yeah, being in the Shula group is cool, but if I was one of the girls and was assigned to the Cameron group I would be quite insulted.   :)

To answer the question in the thread, yes, in theory (and on the internet, where most everything is theory), I have heard other men say that they prefer Bs or Cs to DDs.  In actual, real life, I have never, ever heard a man discuss a physically present woman (i.e. currently or recently in visual range) and say that that specific woman would be hotter with smaller breasts.  And I've heard the opposite countless times (e.g. "kids would starve").

Now, I know plenty of guys who are opposed to fake breasts, and I've heard plenty of them object on that basis.  But I've never physically heard a man say that he thought a girl's chest was real, but too big.

Dave, going forward, can you list the seed for the girls as you post them?  For example:

Jennifer P. (#1 Orange Division)
Amy (#2 Navy Division)
Michelle (#3 White Division)
Natalie D. (#4 Orange Division)

^ I thought about that, but I didn't want it to color the results.  But I don't have that data, since I didn't organize them that way.  I ranked them 1-16, based on percentage of the vote in the previous heat.

I split up the highest vote-getters so that we'd have the best ones last.  I can list seeds in the next round, though.

I believe that can be explain by the peer pressure aspect of it being generally accepted to want bigger breasts than smaller ones. 

The reason why YOU may have not ever heard it.  While I have heard it and Sunny has said it, is because YOUR friends fear a tongue-lashing from you regarding there being something wrong with them for having abnormal view of breast size. 

Both boys and girls are taught at a young age boys are suppose to like girls with bigger boobs.  A boy liking a girl with smaller boobs is almost but not quite as abnormal and socially unacceptable as a boy liking boys over girls.  And a common reaction to a male saying he likes smaller breasts is "what are you gay?"

The reason why you have heard it on the internet was the anonymous poster didn't have to fear your rebuke.  Sometime folks are more honest on the internet.  I know I have posted thing anonymously that I don't tell live people. 

And while this isn't live, it is a specific person....IMHO, Samantha and a few of the others would be hotter looking if they were a bit smaller. 

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The most popular breasts in the world seem to contradict this theory.

As Hoodie stated earlier, that is probably due to humans selectively breeding cows to produce large amounts of milk.  I agree with that.  You do not see huge udders hanging off of any kind of wild cattle.

If this were true, why would these same guys be happy to explain that they prefer Bs or Cs over DDs?

Personally, I attribute the phenomenon to a different mechanism.  The closest analogy I can pick is: penis size.

There are plenty of women who are not "size queens" and say that they prefer a medium-sized penis, etc.  Like men with breast size, I believe that a large factor in those statements is a personal evaluation of oneself; you don't want to be one of "those people" who are superficially obsessed with size, so by stating your hypothetical preference for medium-sized organs, you are highlighting how reasonable you are.

But at the end of the day, if you look at how many women will stop returning a guy's calls because he's just too ridiculously huge, I don't think that number is going to be significant.  (It's slightly different because discriminating based on breast size is a lot easier, in a practical sense, than discriminating based on penis size, but it's still reasonably close.)

^^^^What she said.

Humans and cattle aren't in a linear descent on the evolutionary latter.  Humans are the only primates with external breasts.  Scientist believe that humans evolved this way when our faces got flat.  Cattle's evolutionary path was a bit different and may occurred separately for separate reasons.  

I inadvertent left out the word "most" in the line you quoted.  Most other mammals do not have external breasts.  

Do that many women stop returning guys calls because his penis is too small? 

I think the penis analogy is a good one.  For all we stress over how much dick size I don't know of single actual instance where a girl rejected a guy because his dick was too small.  It is possible that this is because the women didn't want to be rude and gave a different answer, but I have never heard a guy say he got dumped for having too small of a penis.  I have never heard a women say she dumped a guy because he was too small.

In fact I only know of one girl who really cared about the size.  When we were just starting the foreplay stage she told me that really large men hurt and she would only have sex with regular sized men and preferred it to be a bit smaller than average.  She went on to say that if I was porn star sized she would give me a hand job or a blow job but it wasn't going in.  I told her I was not a porn star. When I was full erect and she declared that it was "perfect", it was a bit of a blow to my ego.  But what we started doing quickly made me feel pretty good and I got over it.   

I do not know a single woman who ever complained about a guy being too small.  I have heard a few complain that a guys was so large it hurt to have sex.  Mostly we don't even discuss penis size when discussing quality of sex.

I have nothing more to add to this except props because it made me laugh.

Spider,

You reject the idea that peer pressure and cultural are a factor in most guys going along with bigger is better, so please explain the following to me....

In high school a classmate of mine and his teammates were admiring the cheerleaders practicing.  One of his teammates made a comment about the breasts well endowed girls.  He responded that he preferred a couple of the more perky cheerleaders and found large breast unattractive.  To wit he was asked if he was gay and generally ridiculed for his preference in breast size.

1) If the is not evidence of peer pressure by guys to other guys to like larger breasted women, then what the hell is it?

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My suite-mate liked flat chested women.  His porn magazine collection consisted solely of flat chested women.  He dated flat chested women.   However when in a group of guys were out and someone would point out a woman with large breast, he would agree that she was hot even though he didn't find her attractive. 

2) Why would he lie to his buddies, if not for peer pressure to like large breasts?

When I found his flat chested porn, he was worried about my reaction and  begged me not to tell others of his preference for flat chested women. 

3) Why would this be the case if not for the peer pressure to like large breasts? 

Not long after his flat chested girl friend found his collection of flat chested porn she stopped wearing pushup bras and other garments that made her look like she had small breast as opposed to no breasts.  She would also tell classmates that the reason why she was no longer hiding her flatness was her boyfriend though she looked more sexy this way.  This embarrassed him as he didn't want the entire campus to know he preferred flat chested chicks.

4) Why would a boy who likes flat chested girls and who is dating a flat chested girl be embarrassed by her telling others that her boyfriend finds her flatness sexy, if not for the peer pressure to like large breasts?

As a sidenote:  The finding of the porn was quite an epiphany for her.  It was on that day she realized that her boyfriend was not lying to her and actually did like her just the way she was.  And not only that there was enough guys in the world who also digged chicks like her to keep several porn magazines profitable.   (The only porn she had known of before hand involved women of an entirely different body style than hers and those magazines had the affect of making her feel quite inferior. )  It was on this day that she stopped being embarrassed by her own body, gain a huge level of self confidence, self esteem and began taking pride in her own nips.  Actually  too much pride in her own nips, but that is another story.  It was this kind of a epiphany that I wanted my crazy gf that I have discussed elsewhere to have.     

You state,
5) Wouldn't the more "reasonable" or "less superficially" response be "size doesn't matter"  rather than than the Goldilocks answer? 

Sunstroke has mentioned he prefers "perky" instead of large.  You seem to be attributing this to Sunstroke wanting to sound reasonable and politically correct. 

6) What has Sunstroke ever said or done that would lead you to believe he would post an artificial and false statement in an effort to avoid offending others over posting an honest and blunt answer regardless if this would offend other?

I honestly have zero interest in being politically correct, and even less in being something other than myself in order to appear "reasonable" based on other people's standards. When I say I prefer "perky breasts more than large breasts," you can take that as literally as when I say "I like bacon more than liverwurst" or "I like chocolate more than cat poop" or "I like chocolate covered bacon more than cat poop that was squeezed out by a cat who just ate some liverwurst."

The perkiest breasts in the Shula group belong to Jennifer, and for that divine perkiness, she received my vote...

1) If the is not evidence of peer pressure by guys to other guys to like larger breasted women, then what the hell is it?
Guys giving another guy crap for a choice that they personally disagree with?  I'd get the same kind of crap from my friends if I bought a Miata.

2) Why would he lie to his buddies, if not for peer pressure to like large breasts?
You'd have to ask him.  If there's a girl that I find unattractive, I can usually think of more than one reason.

As far as you finding his porn collection: yes, flat chested women probably fall into the "fetish" category.  Then again, so do the triple-F sized women, so...

3) is redundant.

4) Why would a boy who likes flat chested girls and who is dating a flat chested girl be embarrassed by her telling others that her boyfriend finds her flatness sexy, if not for the peer pressure to like large breasts?
This presumes that he would be less embarrassed if she told people that he was paying for her to get enormous, FFF-sized implants.

Extremes at either end will be considered freaky.

5) Wouldn't the more "reasonable" or "less superficially" response be "size doesn't matter"  rather than than the Goldilocks answer? 
"Size doesn't matter" is a non-answer, and is transparently evading the question.

6) What has Sunstroke ever said or done that would lead you to believe he would post an artificial and false statement in an effort to avoid offending others over posting an honest and blunt answer regardless if this would offend other?
You are inferring deceit where I have never implied it.

When a girl says that she prefers responsible, intelligent men, and yet she actually dates belligerent alpha-male frat boys, is she lying?

If she has as many opportunities to date responsible, intelligent men as she does the belligerent alpha frat boys, and still dates the frat boys, then yes...she's either lying to you or to herself.

...and to bring things back on track:

If Jennifer the Perky prefers an intelligent, responsible man...I can do that. If she digs on the belligerent alpha male types, I can play that role for her as well. ;D

This really is one of the stranger threads I've ever read on any message board.

You must have missed this thread.   http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php/topic,17757.0.html

No, no I didn't. Really think this one takes the cake. Although perhaps I bowed out of the other thread too soon, I don't really recall. Sometimes threads take strange turns and I'll just lose interest.

I think you could say this one has some interesting curves. 

(yes, the pun was intended)

I have.  Those guys are out there, I just think they are the minority.

It's pretty easy to find out who's who too.  Simply go to a topless bar with your friends and see which ones your buddies are tipping.  Sometimes that has to do with their face or possibly even "dancing" ability, but in my experience at least 50% of the time it's about breast size/shape etc.  This is where I first realized that a buddy of mine liked his women nearly flat chested.  Anything larger than maybe a B cup was too large for him.  Now, I can't say that he wouldn't have anything to do with a women with a C cup, but it wasn't his preference.

What if its one of those 64-quadruple-E ridiculous women who smash beer cans with their boobs?

Those are truly TOO damn big!

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