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Here is the article that got me to post this...

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2011/04/deangelo-williams-says-interest-in-dolphins-is-mutual.html

I actually really liked DeAngelo out of college and kinda hoped he would end up in Miami.  He is a quality individual with an excellent blend of speed, size, moves and vision.  Lockout aside, he is exactly the kind of replacement for Ricky and/or Ronnie that I would be looking for.

Having the draft before there can be free agency really sucks.  Free agents could really hold a great deal of cards knowing how strong the team needs them if they don't fill their needs in the draft.

I know that drafting a running back is not as risky as it used to be, but don't forget that running backs need to prove they can pass protect before they sniff the field in the NFL.  As things stand now, without a second round pick, signing DeAngelo would be a great way to avoid reaching for a running back at 15.  Ultimately, a third round running back may be a little late to get the #1 running back we need.

Im all for it. We need weapons in a bad way on  offense. We have none

I'm down with DeAngelo.

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I'm on board.

The track record of free agent running backs having an impact is... um, not good.  This guy is all of 16 months younger than Ronnie Brown.

Better to get a back in the draft.

Love to have him but the article pretty clearly said he wants to play someplace that has a good QB.  For this reason, I doubt he ends up in Miami.

Ronnie's age isn't really the issue, it is his production.  I am not concerned with signing a running back that will be with us for the next 8-10 years; 3-4 years would be just fine.

In the context of what he had in Carolina the last few years, I would say we are undoubtedly an upgrade.  Once he realizes that teams with great QB's don't feature or pay their running backs, I think his mind will change a bit.  We are middle of the road at that possition which is perfect for a free agent running back.

And on the plus side for us...  A better run game would really help our passing game (elevating the play of our QB artificially)! But we all know that.

umm, we definitely are not middle of the road at the qb position. more like bottom third of the league. hell about the only qb henne might be better than is clausen.

DeAngelo Williams + a RB drafted ANYWHERE in this draft will do wonders....DeAngelo Williams as the feature back?..not so much..end of story.

D. Williams + Ingram would give us one of the best RB combos in the league, but there are guys to be had in the later rounds that could almost be as serviceable, plus we could spend that first rounder on a QB, OLB, WR or CB (although, I'm not ready to give up on S. Smith just yet...give him this year and see way happens).  Tough decisions.  If it was me, I'd take Mallett in the first at 15, best RB available in the 3rd (there is a guy Jawan Charles or Thomas...something like that who is rising the boards that could be Chris Johnson great) and sign D. Williams. 

That is pretty much what I was thinking.  Avoid using 15 for a running back and hope you could be aggressive enough to sign someone like DeAngelo.  Would have been awesome to be able to work out that deal before the draft. 

In regards to Dolfan13...  My understanding is that Henne actually does rank right about 15th, 16th or 17th in the league.  I realize this is hard to believe, but I am pretty sure that is the case. 

Also, don't forget that more speed at running back coupled with the O-line stability that Sparano recently promised should result in a better run game which should open up the pass game a little more.  Do I believe Henne could crack the top 10 list of QB's? Not at all!  Which is why drafting a QB in round and going to free agency to pick up a top tier running back makes more sense to me.  However, Henne IS middle of the road enough to be serviceable for one more year while a rookie QB develops.

Last point - Don't forget that Kory Sheets while widely unknown is a speedy running back and got hurt early enough last year that he should be very healthy come training camp time.  Cobbs is going into his 2nd year post ACL and when ACL tears occur midseason it usually takes 2 seasons to get back to full speed.  Finally, Hilliard does offer a big back option if we do focus on speed with a running back acquisition.  Are these elite guys? NO.  But they do give us some flexibility at filling Ronnie and Ricky's loss.

I just read an article (I forget where, so I'm sorry I don't have a link right now) where, despite his end of the season bash of Sparano, if Miami made him a fair offer he would be back in a heartbeat and finish is career a Dolphin....again.

He also said that he doesn't think it's at all likely, I'm just a huge Ricky fan and I'm hoping for the best with that.  DeAngelo Williams said that Ricky is the reason he wears number 34..so it would be cool to see them as a 1,2 punch in that regard.

Im no big Sparano fan, but why would the franchise make Ricky a "fair" offer or any offer at all for the stunt Ricky pulled at the end of the season. Throwing the coaches and his teammates under the bus. Ricky showed his TRUE colors once again. Airing dirty laundry in the media. He is a POS and he can now uproot his family and go play somewhere else.

I agree with this 100%.

As devil's advocate I will at least say this for Ricky...

It was a shitty and frustrating season.  You may not think of Ricky as competitive, and I can understand why, but it is human nature for guys (particularly atheletes) to be very competitive and you can see where Ricky's emotions may have gotten the best of him there at the end.

Don't forget it was really the Sparano/Henning/Henne combo that made last year suck so bad and I am sure Ricky was just relaying what many on the team felt.  Ricky was the better running back last year even with less attempts, so while it would be a bit of a stretch, I think it is possible to see Ricky back for a very short contract.

I am pretty much past the Ricky thing and I always worry about him fumbling, but he is healthy and looked much more dynamic than Ronnie the last couple of years so I would be ok with one more short contract if it worked out that way.  Sparano and Ireland are man enough to set aside a few stupid comments for the betterment of the team (and keeping their jobs) if they really think it is their best option.  But, I strongly doubt it will happen!

What "true" colors are you refering to dude?

NOT being a team player. Throwing his teammates and coaches under the bus in the media. Those true colors. Once again Ricky bails on his team and only cares about Ricky. Ricky smokes weed and quits on the eve of training camp. Ricky after last seasons throws his team under the bus publicly and badmouths numerous coaches and teammates. Ricky ONLY cares about Ricky and that will NEVER CHANGE!

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HAHAHAHAHA wow Mikey, you're the biggest hypocrite ever.  So basically in a nut shell, your beef with Ricky is because he smoked pot and bashed his coach..I'm not going to get into marijuana use, because that's an entirely different argument..and dude, that was 7 years ago, let it go man.  But YOU constantly bash Sparano any chance you get, but Ricky's a scumbag for POLITELY "bashing" Sparano and how he "micromanages" the game?..I would think you would admire the dude for having the balls to say publicly what YOU think on an everyday basis.  It's not like he demanded a trade or was a complete douche about it, he said it was frustrating for his coach to over analyze everything to the 10th degree.  I honestly see nothing wrong with what Ricky said, when Ricky said it, or how Ricky said it..you just love to complain dude, and you'll find anything to be miserable over

"politely bashing"....talk about spinning what really happened in reality ha ha

How in the world can you be critical of Ricky for throwing his team mates under the bus when you constantly throw the Miami Dolphins players under the bus? You threw Brandon Marshall under the bus when he was in intensive care in the hospital. What about THOSE true colors MikeO? Shouldn't a fan show a little respect for his team's players at least when they are recovering from stab wounds?

so since you have an answer for everything, and can't admit you're wrong, ever...tell me Mikey, what REALLY happened?

listen to his interview on WQAM the day after the season, they have it archived go to WQAM.com. Read what he said in the Herald and Sun Sentinel, its archived there too. Run a simple search.

Ricky badmouthed a few coaches and a few players on the offensive side of the ball. Are you claiming he didn't do such?

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2011/01/03/an-angry-reflective-ricky-williams-says-hes-likely-done-with-the-dolphins-doesnt-hold-back-on-criticism-of-tony-sparano-and-teammates/


Dude..he sounds exaclty like you..and yet he's a POS?..so does that make you a POS?

^^^Like that's interesting man...so if Ricky looks in a mirror would he see MikeO??

according to Mikey, we all need to look in the mirror

cause I don't play for the team  ::)  If you can't see the difference between a FAN saying it and a team leader saying it then you really are CLUELESS!

so the back up running back is a team leader?..I like that Ricky had the balls to say it man, that's what great about the freedom of speech and the right to your own opinion

my point is you're a moron for bashing someone who had the SAME EXACT opinion as you

considering he was the teams Union Rep, yeah he was a team leader

And YOU are a MORON if you can't see the difference between a fan on a message board of about 10 people saying it and a multi-millionare player, team union rep, and leader on the team saying it. It just shows how dumb you really are!  Really you can't see the difference?!?...wow. Plain stupid! 

Touche..he was the teams rep..I'll give you that..I still think you're being harsh though on your opinion of Ricky, alls I'm saying

And a THIRD thread is now in the crapper due to some unnecessary drama and personal attacks. 

MikeO- Your posts are way out of line.  I understand you embellish to get your point across, but the constant negativity and doom/gloom is too much at times.  The name calling is completely unnecessary.

Pappy, Tubba, Frimp, Bsmooth, and Spider Dan- I understand his posts may be irritating but goading him like you guys do all the time doesn't help matters.  If anything, he's gonna try to goad you back which causes the thread to deteriorate. 

I'd love to take all of you out on my boat with a huge cooler full of Landshark on ice.  The one rule is anyone who talks trash to someone else will have to swim back to shore.

^^ I am totally down for this!! lol


I just want one thing to be known, it's impossible to have any real resentment for someone you don't even know..this is all in good internet fun, at least in my opinion..if someone makes an erroneous comment, there will be backlash..just like if I expect the same if I make stupid comments..so LS, I'm RSVP'ing YES to your offer!!

You forgot Sunstroke ;). I would love to come down for some sailing off Florida, but that would be a looong drive from Washington.

And you don't understand the dynamic of an NFL lockeroom. When a older vet who represents the team turns on the team, coaches and organization IN THE MEDIA, the player must go. He is a quitter and a bad teammate. And his antics after last year will make it tough for him to go find another team. Teams will want to avoid him and the few teams that offer him a deal will lowball him.

You don't seem to understand that the dynamic of an NFL locker room is much like the dynamic on fan forums. When a longtime member who proclaims to root for the team turns on the team, coaches and orginization IN THE FORUMS, that fan must go. He is a quitter and a bad forum member.

You need to take a little bit of your own advice MikeO.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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