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Open up on Monday Night.

No September 1pm home games (thanks Mr. Ross)

AT Buffalo and New England in December. Not good!

Thanksgiving day as been reported earlier.

Impossible to predict the schedule, considering we lost HOME games last year in December to Cleveland, Detroit, and Buffalo. Not even wroth trying to guess. Plus if lockout continues those out of conference games will probably be taken off the schedule.

the other thing that sticks out, we play a 6 game stretch from Sep 25th to Nov 6th with only 1 home game! ouch!

^^ Idk if you noticed, but Miami's a better road team as of late

...Yeah, I was about to say, especially from the guy who continuously bemoaned (with good reason on at least that point, I'll say) our putrid home record just this past season--and you think that 6 game stretch is a BAD thing?!?!?!   :D

to think we will have the same success on the road next year as we did last year is crazy. It was a fluke in every sense.

^^..yep, you know everything dude

its called an opinion.... ::)


jees, lighten up!!

Yes, it is crazy...so crazy, in fact, that I think you should work on the process of having me committed for commenting on the fact that out of eight whole games, we were pretty terrible at home last season and again, out of eight whole games, we were decent (or far better than we were at home at least, for whatever reason) on the road.  That much of a discrepancy is not a fluke, buddy...I'd call it a trend.  Perhaps the Dolphins just played looser on the road, for whatever reason.  Plus, from what I've heard (unfortunately I've never had the pleasure of being able to attend a Miami home game, but I'm going off of what I've heard from people on here and others), our fans don't always give us the strongest homefield advantage anyways, and in addition, we're starting to lose all of the late summer/early autumn 1:00 PM kickoffs (as you've noted), probably further reducing the homefield advantage so yes, IN MY OPINION, it is possible that that trend could continue.  Not necessarily likely, but certainly possible.  So how 'bout you "lighten up!!" ....."Would you kindly??"  ;)


This.

Lot of those "road wins" last year were luck-based.

Playing GB when GB had a ton of starters out that week. We beat their "B" team and just squeeked by in dong so.

Chad Henne completes 5 passes vs the Jets and we win. TOTAL LUCK! When your QB completes 5 passes and you have 30 passing yards and the opposing QB throws for over 200 yards and we somehow win....LUCK!

Farve giving us gift after gift in Minny along with no Sidney Rice and Harvin leaving the game early on. Once again, had everything in our favor and we just squeeked by.

Beating Buffalo, Cincy, and Oakland on the road....not exactly murderers row there. Oakland was decent last year, so that was a nice win but decent for a non-playoff team. They weren't special.

And the "real" teams we played on the road Baltimore and New England, we lost!

Yes, all of our road wins were lucky or meaningless.

HOWEVER...

All of our home losses were certainly completely straightforward, well-deserved losses, involving no bad luck at all.

3 touchdowns given up by special teams?
With <3min left, review shows opponent fumble in our end zone, but they get the ball back anyway?
1st- and 2nd-string QBs both out with injury?
Carpenter going 0-for-4 in a 3-point loss?

All totally reasonable and common occurrences.

I never brought up the home losses, thats a whole different topic all together.

don't get your panties in a bunch junior

Dude, what is with your attitude? Seriously.

I return the same level of attitude that is shown to me by some!

If some don't like it, look in the mirror!! Seriously, posts are archived. Anyone can take a look. I don't start with the attitude, others do. But I will give it back!

Ahem...


MikeO, just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding you:

Do the lucky road wins cancel out the unlucky home losses, or not?

I don't think the home loses were unlucky. Our special teams have stunk for years, giving up 3 big special teams plays isn't unlucky, it wasnt surprising with that group.

Carpenter missing 4 FG's it happens. Kickers choke. Happens often in thie league, not unlucky

No team has played with a 3rd string QB before? It happens. Bears did it in the NFC Championship game. They aren't crying!

The PITT loss  Miami had the ball in the redzoen TWICE to open the game and couldnt score a TD. Is that unluky or just a bad team not scoring points? The fumble "play" at the end was unlucky, but that is an unlucky play not an unlucky loss. Beecause Miami had MUTLIPLE chances to win that game and failed.

So no I don't see your point at all

How many times have our special teams given up 3 TDs in one game in the last decade?

How many times did a kicker go 0-for-4 in the league last year?

Did the Bears 3rd-stringer start that game?  No?  Then I don't think it's quite the same.

I do like how when Miami has their first two QBs out due to injury and loses, luck has nothing to do with it, but when Green Bay has some non-QB players in street clothes, well, Miami's win is obviously based entirely on luck.

Refresh my memory... how many chances did NYJ have to win a game that ended 10-6?  Apparently, when Miami scrapes out a close victory, it's a "lucky win," but when Miami barely loses (to a blown call, at that), well, that's just the better team winning?

...yea the road games Im not even concerned at this point, they seem to try harder on the road than at home, at home they're suppose to win and always make stupid mistakes, on the road they put up better numbers, they beat the Packers at Green Bay....

Mike-O..if you're going to constantly talk shit, then learn how to you argue dude..you've made so many contradicting points in this thread alone.  Nevermind your "career" on this board.  You say that you never brought up the HOME losses, and you may be right, but dude if you're going to talk about how "tough" Miami's road schedule is this year, you should've expected someone else's OPINION to disagree with you..so don't act all surprised that multiple people called you out and in turn, divert to erroneous comments to back up your "argument" out of defense.  You want to say that "luck" got us those road wins, and name all the players that didn't start in those key games, shit happens, players get hurt.  That's how this game works.  So you're saying if Sidney Rice plays Week 2, we lose that game..if Clay Matthews plays Week 6, we lose that game..well, they didn't and in the end, the only stat that matters in the number you have in the W column.  That's it, so who cares if Henne completed 5 passes against the Jets..WE WON THE GAME..what do you want, to drop 49 points every game?  It's not going to happen.  It's like you're so frustrated with this team (and honestly, sometimes I don't blame you), that even the wins aren't good enough for you.  So dude, let me ask you, what are you honestly expecting?

mike O = retard.

so who wants to have a new years/reg season finale bash?  i've been meaning to make it down there for a jets game eventually

And people wonder why I don't show others respect. The level of respect I get I give in return! Look in the mirror people!

Perhaps you are confusing cause and effect.

Do you believe that you showed up on this board with perfectly reasonable, calm responses to others' posts and people just started flaming you for no reason?  Or do you recognize the possibility that maybe the attitude that you have received is the return serve of your own behavior?

You can continue your "Google the proof of what I'm saying yourself, I'm not your SLAVE" mindset indefinitely and continue to have every thread you post in turn into... well, every thread you post in.  If that's the experience you want, that's what you'll get.  Or you can choose to act like a reasonable person instead and discuss football (which, after all, is what you claim you want).  Will there be an instant turnaround?  Of course not; you've worked very hard to build up several months of bad will with virtually every member of this forum, and it will take time to undo it.

But regardless of which course you choose, stop pretending that you're the victim.  You showed up spouting attitude almost from day 1, so please don't act surprised when you reap what you've sown.

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and YOU are taking a message board WAY WAY WAY too seriously! Grow Up!

Was I NOT acting reasonable yesterday? I made a simple post (with a link which you all love so much) about the breaking Brandon Marshall news, and the first response was an attack on me! For what? Posting a news item and giving a one sentence opinion. Was that called for?  Please. Some of you are so blinded  you can't see the forest from the trees. I HAVE chosen a course, just that some of you are so god damn immature its impossible to have a adult conversation. It always goes to the gutter....which is where YOU and OTHERS bring it!!

The MikeO special:

- When others respond to your attacks with attacks, say, "See?  This is the kind of respect I'm given!  LOOK IN THE MIRROR"
- When others point out your perpetual lack of civility as the origin of the attacks, say, "Why so serious?  THIS IS JUST AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD"

All bases covered.

Just to make sure there is no confusion here:

MikeO, here are the summarized contents of all of your posts to Dolphins Discussion for the week prior to your posting of the Marshall stabbing, in reverse chronological order:

- MIA special teams have sucked for years; PIT loss was not unlucky at all
- look in the mirror
- "don't get your panties in a bunch, junior"
- MIA's 2010 road wins were lucky or meaningless
- why so serious?
- Ricky is a traitor
- last year's road record was a fluke
- there's a stretch of 5 out of 6 games on the road in 2011
- Ricky is a traitor
- MIA lost home games to garbage teams last year
- "mediocre" is too kind a description of MIA's offense

You see that single bolded line?  That is the lone time that you made a post that was positive or neutral about the Dolphins in Dolphins Discussion.  That was only for the last week.

Do you seriously expect your "one sentence opinion" to be considered in a vacuum?  When virtually every post you make is bashing the Dolphins, you should expect people to take your newest Dolphin-bashing post as more of the same.

Again, another thread with a good topic for conversation disintegrates due to unnecessary drama. 

I suggest everyone grab an ice cold Landshark and relax.

Dude, you are the biggest baby I've ever heard (or read in this case).

Yes, you did give us breaking Marshall news, so thanks..I guess.  But dude, chiming in with an erroneous comment, is where the problem lies. 

"Time to get rid of his clown and move on. He is nothing but trouble. And he wasn't even that good on the field last year. Another Parcells/Ireland/Sparano mistake!!"

So he's a clown for getting stabbed by his wife?..allow me to reiterate..HE was STABBED, by his WIFE..granted, he obviously said or did something dumb, but how is he at fault for his wife being a crazy bitch? (p.s..I don't mean to be blunt and before I get bashed for being a sexist prick I'll apologize, but..again..she stabbed him..she's probably not that sane)..His fucked up domestic situation does not affect whether or not he catches a key pass on 3rd and long.

As far as him being "not that good"..dude..Think of Miami receivers in recent history..Marshall in his one year shits on all of them (except maybe Chambers's pro bowl year).  But, in Henning's ridiculously conservative offense, he still managed to average 6 catches for 75 yards per game..are those earth shattering numbers? No, but to what standards are you basing it on when you say his season "wasn't even that good?"  And before you come back with "he only had 3 touchdowns"..keep in mind, NO ONE got into the endzone last year for Miami.

IN OTHER NEWS

I love this schedule, and I think it works in our favor :)

Some people would rather talk about Me than anything else. It's amazing!!

Great. I disagree. I think its a poor schedule that plays agaisnt our strengths. No 1pm September games. December games AT Buffalo and New England. And a streatch of 6 games where 5 are on the road.

Considering your history here on these forums, yes it was called for. Had you merely posted the link and not your comments blasting him, I wouldn't have said a word, but you can't resist.  You can't resist the opportunity to blast a Dolphins player every chance you get, so I blasted you for blasting Marshall. That's exactly what we are all talking about. You have brought this on yourself. You have always brought it on yourself and your self pity is laughable.

This has been a topic of conversation in the past. I'm not sure if those 1PM starts are really one of our strengths. Sure, it hurts teams coming from a colder climate, for one game. Given the Dolphins history of folding or backing into the playoffs in December, are multiple games in that heat really a benefit early on or does it add to the toll of playing in the NFL even more causing us to be weak at the end of the season? It is a topic of debate at this point and I really don't know. I just wanted to put it forth.

have you not noticed that Miami will always play in New England in December?..it's pretty much been that way for a while now dude, no sure why that comes as a surprise.  And, again, pay attention once in a while and you'll realize that Miami is better on the road because if you think about it, ever game for Miami is a road game..because everyone wants to live in Florida and not everyone is a Miami fan, every home Miami game I've watched for years now it's like the crowd is 50/50 cheering for the opposing team..moreover, with the exception of the Jets, the Pats, and the Eagles, every team on the schedule is either extremely overrated, or just plain sucks..unlike you, I want to have an optimistic outlook on my team, but also maintain a level of realism..whereas you just want to bash the team and not give them a chance

We alternate schedules. One year we play them here in the first part and there for the winter and the next year it is the opposite. Same way with Buffalo and New York.

^^..hmm, that a fact? ok well I stand corrected, it SEEMS like we always play there in December..and then the rest of my rant stand the same lol

Since the realignment:

2010: NE@MIA 10/4, MIA@NE 1/2
2009: MIA@NE 11/8, NE@MIA 12/6
2008: MIA@NE 9/23, NE@MIA 11/23
2007: NE@MIA 10/21, MIA@NE 12/23
2006: MIA@NE 10/8, NE@MIA 12/10
2005: NE@MIA 11/13, MIA@NE 1/1
2004: MIA@NE 10/10, NE@MIA 12/20
2003: NE@MIA 10/19, MIA@NE 12/7
2002: NE@MIA 10/6, MIA@NE 12/29

This season will be the first time that NE has played at Miami in September since the realignment (and it's a night game).  Meanwhile, in the same time period, Miami has played 5 games at New England in December or January.  There are also two instances of both games taking place in November or later, but zero instances of both games taking place in October or earlier.

Of course, with the new league emphasis of backloading division games towards the end, we can probably expect to get screwed; there may or may not be warm-weather games in Miami, but there will ALWAYS be cold-weather games at the end of the season at our divisional opponents.

Or maybe more than one game.  A division rival (all three of which are from colder climates) could get drained/dehydrated  enough from a Sept 1 pm game in the sun to have a bad week of practice after returning home losing a second game.  Maybe far fetched, maybe not.

But in a 16 game season (this ain't MLB) each game matters.  One win vs on loss in the division is often the difference between the playoff or not, a bye or not, home field or not. 

The Dolphins are foolish not to take adv of homefield and avoiding 1 pm games in Sept to accommodate wimp ass fans.  You don't see the Packers asking to avoid home games in Dec.  And toughing it out in a Wisc December is tougher than a Miami heat. 

I stand corrected. I swear I thought they rotated but maybe I just assumed since other sports do.

Not from my perspective it isn't... I've been through the extreme cold and the extreme heat alike, and if I have to sit through one or the other, I'll bundle up and deal with the cold.

If you're freezing in the cold weather, you can add another layer and move around to stay warm.

If you're roasting in the Sun, you just roast...

Move around?  I would rather sit thru a football game in the heat sucking down cold beverages than sit thru a game in the cold.  OTOH, if the question was which conditions would I rather PLAY in.  I would rather deal with the cold if I have to run around under football pad than than bake in the Miami sun. 

You use the term "in the heat" so calmly and peacefully there, when the reality is more like "roast and sweat your ass off in the blazing sun until you suffer heat stroke or give up and find some shade..."

I've worked in negative 42 degree weather (with wind chill), and I've worked in a no-breeze wooden box at 120 degrees. Give me the cold every time, thank you...

I seriously doubt it. I even doubt it would affect them for a second game on a shortened week. Multiple games though (which Miami would be doing) would have an affect down the road.

They do tend to rotate the games more than they used to though (NE may be an exception).  Living in upstate NY I know the Buffalo game used to always be the week of Thanksgiving for awhile, previously was in December regularly.  The Jets game was always the third week of October, I remember because that was when my nephew's birthday was, and I was always guilted into going to a B-Day party for him, vs. going to the game.

wah wah wah....all you do is whine and complaine on these forums about me. Get over it!! Move on!

I totally disagree. The folding had more to do with lackluster talent and poor coaching in those years. We had HUGE advantages in September in years past. We always were fast starters and opened up quick. Mainly because we never lost at home early. It was rare. That heat helped us a ton

EXACTLY!!! Someone gets it. Someone understands. Play to your strengths, Miami at home in Sep at 1pm is a huge advantage and some Fin fans don't want to take advantage of it. Amazing!

And this notion others are bringing up that Miami is a better road team than home team, what happened last year isn't going to happen on a regular basis. I won't use the word FLUKE because that will be too negative  ::)  , but last year was the exception not the norm. Most years teams are better at home than on the road. To expect anything NEAR last year to happen again anytime soon would be foolish

^^ where did you get your crystal ball dude?

I wanted to make sure to get back on this thread and respond since I was one of the ones originally saying that I didn't see the 5 road games in a 6 game stretch as such a bad thing considering how we played on the road vs. at home just this past season. 


While we did just "squeak" by GB that game, beating them in OT on a Carpenter FG (big surprise there!) and I do recall that the Pack had several starters out from that game after suffering through a lot of injuries early on in the season, I actually was still  *impressed* that we won (if you can call it impressed) because, yes, while we played pretty shitty that game, we still managed to pull it out in the end...even after we gave up another QB draw by Rodgers up the middle down on the goal line (again, big surprise there!) to send it into OT.  We made some big plays offensively in the 4th quarter to put ourselves in a good position, though, and considering the sloppy, inconsistent play in a lot of the game, I was glad that we still found a way to win...and no, I didn't feel like it was a game we were lucky to win, but more like one that if we had played much better, we would have actually beaten them handily.  Given, that was a Packers team dealing with a lot of injuries, but as someone else already said, that's the game in today's NFL, so I'll take the W.

Calling a Dolphins' victory over the Jets @ NYJ "total luck" just because Chad Henne only managed to complete 5 passes is like a complete slap in the face of the Dolphins' defense and Brandon Fields' play in particular on that day.  They both played really, really well (actually, Fields punted phenomenally that game) and had just as much to do with our winning a much needed game in hostile territory as Henne's and the receiving corps' ineffective passing game had to do with keeping the game so close.  Really, though, thank God for 3 phases of the game, because if it was up to you, it sounds like a team's winning a game would be solely based on the QB rating rather than the points put on the scoreboard!!  Actually, I think we would have fared even worse than 7-9 last year if that was the case..... (Sanchez' rating was actually lower than Henne's that game, btw, despite the 216 yds passing  :o )

As for the road game @ Minnesota, that one has been discussed pretty much ad nausem back during the season due to all the Jason Allen crap, it seems (at least regarding how it related to Favre's "gifts", as you put them), but basically, that's part of the game if you ask me...Lord knows Henne provided some nice "gifts" to New England Patriot and Baltimore Raven and Cleveland Brown defenders last season, to name a few.   The goal line stand we had against them and AD with 4 rushes within the 10 yard line deep into the 4th quarter was worth claiming a victory alone if you ask me!

You play the schedule that you have.  Beating Buffalo, Cincy, and Oakland, while not exactly a daunting task (particularly Buffalo at the beginning of the season), still requires you to beat an NFL team that has prepared to play for a week and all of those teams (including Cincy) were still alive for postseason play at the time that we played them, so they didn't exactly roll over for us.

Finally, Baltimore and New England.....we actually didn't look too bad at all the first half against the Ravens, but unfortunately we never made great adjustments to that stupid little underneath screen they kept running with Flacco to Ray Rice and really killed us with when we had them in some good 2nd- and 3rd-and-long situations, and then our offense started to show its *true* form in the 2nd half and really went to shit with turnovers (tipped balls, falling down on routes, lack of blocking/effort/execution), plus Baltimore was coming off a bye going into that game so I'm kinda surprised we played them as close as we did most of that game, to be honest.  Whether we'd admit it or not (and I think most of us did by that point!), I think we all knew that we'd lose to NE if they played their starters the last game of the season, though maybe we would've hoped it wouldn't have been in such pitiful fashion.  I'll give you that was bad, but if you're going to hang your hat on a team that was undefeated at home besides the playoffs making us look bad, then I think you're not really complementing your argument that well (as for Baltimore, they went 7-1 at home last season, with the lone loss being the game where Polamalu jumped over the LOS to strip Flacco late in the end of the game, btw).

So, going 6-2 with our 2 losses coming against teams that went a combined 15-1 at home in the regular season is enough to say that we weren't too shabby on the road last year.  Not necessarily counting on it repeating this season, but I wouldn't mind it, either!   :)

While I think you're being a little dramatic here, I will agree with you that I wish we had some Sept. 1 PM home games still.  I also think it's to our advantage from what I saw growing up watching the 'Phins throughout the '90's and thus would like to see us use it to help ourselves out...or at least try to!  I can't really determine one way or the other if playing in those hot games in the late summer/early fall contributed to the "December Demise" some of those years or not, but I do believe that having practiced in the heat regularly during training camp and preseason helps it be easier to be conditioned for when you have those games in September/October and, thus, is an advantage...one that I would like to see used by the team.  Not saying that I would want to sit through the heat myself or anything, though!   :D

we had december crumbles because our teams weren't very good. We had little talent and horrible coaches in the way of guys like Tom Olivadotti, Kippy Brown, and Dave Wannstedt...etc. Tough to win with lackluster talent and poor coaching.  It had nothing to do with the heat 3 months prior!

the disgusting part is if this team got its shit together we could win about 13 games.

can't win 13 games without a QB in this league. Fix the QB position and we can hang with anyone.

must fix entire offense before we know if Henne is the problem although I'll agree he's been known to make some really stupid throws. 

Draft a guy to push him.