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I saw that Peter King had us taking him and it kind of took me by surprise. After looking around a bit I see that people are starting to really like this guy.  Some of his criticism is the same old, same old ... it's height, release point, ability to read the rush, and that he will be a solid "game manger". Those are two words everyone who suffered through the Fiedler years just hates to hear.  Obviously people are seeing something in him now that they didn't at year's end.

Anyway, I was curious as to what you guys think or are hearing about him.

I like Andy Dalton, but not as much as I like (in order):

Ryan Mallett
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker

Additionally, I watched the Gruden QB Camp special they had on ESPN yesterday, and if I hadn't already been 100% against any team I care for drafting Cam Newton, I definitely would be now. That kid has absolutely no brain in his head. This may be a stretch, but Newton is so braindead that he could make Jamarcus Russell look like Myron Rolle (the Rhodes scholar). Gruden asked each of the QBs involved (Mallett, Gabbert, Newton, Locker, Dalton) to give him an example of a line call they'd make while QB'ing at their respective colleges. All of them except for Newton pretty much went right into a line call ("green 22, trip right, z-flip, etc..."), but when he asked Cam Newton that, he hmm'ed and hah'ed and then said "Man, you're really putting me on the spot here." Then he said they didn't do line calls at Auburn, and when Gruden asked if he thought that could be an issue at the next level, Newton literally sulked the rest of the way through the shot.

Dear God, please let some team I hate draft Newton...like the Cowboys, or Raiders. Yeah, that would work.

I saw Peter Kings Mock draft also...I was just happy to see something different than Mark Ingram.I saw Jake Lockers Qb thing with Gruden,and part of Andy Dalton's before Gruden started to grade on me,and I had to watch something else....My likings are pretty close to Strokes...Mine are Gabbert,Mallet,Dalton,then Locker (Kaepernick seems to have gotten alot of talk earlier,then went silent So he'd be 5th) from the things I've read....

This is a piece from an article today. It's kind of funny the things they put these guys through. Since this was about Dalton I thought i'd add it here.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2011/04/miami-dolphins-put-quarterback-prospects-to-the-test.html

....According to King, the Dolphins scheduled an on-campus meeting with Dalton for April 3. The team sent him a portion of its playbook, King wrote, “With their 100-odd formations—motions and shifts and protections, route trees for the receivers.” The Dolphins gave Dalton a few days to learn all of it, then quizzed Dalton on the various formations.
Nothing crazy there, right? Normal stuff.
It gets interesting, though, a bit later in the story.
“Then,” King wrote, “the coaches told him they wanted to see how he’d handle certain off-field situations, like a receiver who thinks he’s not getting the ball enough (hmmm: Brandon Marshall?) and storms into a meeting room.
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I liked this show a lot. Newton looked like a tool. I loved how he got on Locker for taking so many big hits and not sliding or getting out of bounds.

Without a 2nd round pick, I don't see this happening.  Correct or not, his current market value seems to be a 2nd rounder.  This means the Dolphins won't want to take him in the 1st round, and he will most likely be gone by the time they make their 3rd round pick.  I'm still hoping the Dolphins trade down to get a 2nd rounder, and then they might get him.   In any case, if he is still around in the 3rd round, grab him!

I taped Gruden's QB camp and finally had a chance to watch the one with Mallet the other night and the only thing I noticed that would be a red flag to me was that at the end, Gruden was putting Mallet through a workout and he was gassed. He was sucking down water and clearly out of breath. Now maybe that's just a sign that Gruden knows how to run a workout because he was on him the whole time about doing things at game speed telling him "If you're not doing it at full speed, you're getting nothing out of it". I've heard it mentioned before that Mallet might not be in the best of shape and that he tires at the ends of games and that's why he's had some problems at the ends of games. That would seem to make some sense.

But if that's the case that a small red flag in my opinion, because that's something that can be easily fixed. There's no reason that he can't get in better shape once he's in the NFL. He was working hard in that work out for Gruden and he wasn't complaining, he just wasn't used to it, but he doesn't strike me as someone who backs down from hard work. And if that is the reason for some poor throws/decisions at the ends of games, then again it's easy to fix.

Everything else with Gruden was fine and I'm hoping that Miami takes him at 15. I think he has a shot at being a franchise QB and we need one. I haven't given up on Henne as Miami's QB for at least next year, but I don't think he's a franchise QB anymore. He just doesn't have that killer instinct it doesn't appear. We need to find someone that does.