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Title: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Dave Gray on September 15, 2011, 12:33:13 pm The Shame of the Game thread got too hard to follow.
Here's the rules: 1 NAME of a human being employed by the Miami Dolphins. That's all I need. If you want to justify your choice, that's fine. Not eligible: Refs, fans, the defense, the whole team, me for watching the game, etc. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Spider-Dan on September 15, 2011, 12:46:41 pm The owners for instituting the lockout, which caused this total lack of preparedness!
Seriously: Darren Krein, conditioning coach. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 15, 2011, 12:49:20 pm Jared Odrick - pissed me off with than int.
Okay, seriously I am with spider. boys from up north were ready for the heat, folks from the south weren't. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Dave Gray on September 15, 2011, 12:53:12 pm Banny Sapp. Played poorly, got cut.
Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Brian Fein on September 15, 2011, 02:01:17 pm Nolan Carroll, for sucking in general.
I'll never forget watching the defense line up, seeing Carooll 1-on-1 with Branch with no safety help and pointing it out. Then, a second later, Brady looks over, sees Carroll and Branch, and immediately audibles the play and proceeds to throw to Branch downfield. Its that easy - Brady knew the liability. When you have a guy that suspect on the field, why put him on an island with no help over the top? I don't get that. HM to Spider-Dan's guy, whoever he is. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Phishfan on September 15, 2011, 03:29:38 pm Whoever decided that a practice bubble is a good idea. Since it went up, the Dolphins are 0-6 in September at home I was talking with someone the other day and would really love to know how much the bubble is used. Darren Krein. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Dolphin-UK on September 15, 2011, 03:58:47 pm I want to give whoever coaches tackling the goat trailer, but as that is presumably any one the positional coaches at their positions I looked at the coaching staff and spotted....
David Corrao I'm not enitirely sure what a "Defensive Quality Control" coach is supposed to do but when your defensive players can't break down and wrap up, try and second guess plays rather than playing the defense called and can't last 4 qtrs at a professional level I would say there was no quality control on defense. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on September 15, 2011, 04:24:02 pm Nolan Carroll - He fucking blows!!!!!!
Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on September 15, 2011, 07:11:11 pm I'm gonna have to follow Spidey. I gave it to Carrol in the other thread but I change it to the conditioning coach.
In my whole life so far as a Dolphins fan, I've never seen our team get gassed and tired like that when in Miami. In fact, as most of you know it is almost always the opposing teams from the north who suffer and struggle on our home field. I remember that aspect always being a factor which worked out to our benefit. Not the case this week. It was purely pathetic. They looked like a bunch of out of shape car mechanics and retail salesmen playing a pick-up game at Tamiami Park. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: BigDaddyFin on September 15, 2011, 08:04:59 pm Benny Sapp, for repeatedly getting torched for 3tds and about 300 yards on his own.
Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Frimp on September 15, 2011, 09:31:32 pm Sapp. He was the repelling end of a magnet to anyone he was supposed to defend
Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: fyo on September 16, 2011, 07:21:09 am I'm gonna have to follow Spidey. I gave it to Carrol in the other thread but I change it to the conditioning coach. If we take Vontae Davis' word for it, it's not conditioning... but simply hydration. He claims he's never had cramps before (at least not in the past two years), so it just didn't occur to him to take any precautions. Hydration just wasn't something he thought about. That's just not something I would blame any of the coaches for... Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: CF DolFan on September 16, 2011, 08:18:18 am If we take Vontae Davis' word for it, it's not conditioning... but simply hydration. He claims he's never had cramps before (at least not in the past two years), so it just didn't occur to him to take any precautions. Hydration just wasn't something he thought about. That's just not something I would blame any of the coaches for... When we used to play in the day time ... they would get IVs at halftime and after the game. I remember reading that JT got two at half time and a couple of more after the game during our victory over the Broncos several years back. I would have to thin hydration is preached over and over and over. Even my girls soccer team is reminded leading into the weekedns several times. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Phishfan on September 16, 2011, 09:01:52 am If we take Vontae Davis' word for it, it's not conditioning... but simply hydration. He claims he's never had cramps before (at least not in the past two years), so it just didn't occur to him to take any precautions. Hydration just wasn't something he thought about. That's just not something I would blame any of the coaches for... Shouldn't the strength and conditioning coach be preaching the necessity of hydrating? I would think that is one of the biggest part of his gameday responsibilities since they aren't going to be doing any time in the weight room. The other would be ensuring proper warmups and stretching. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: fyo on September 16, 2011, 09:20:34 am Shouldn't the strength and conditioning coach be preaching the necessity of hydrating? I would think that is one of the biggest part of his gameday responsibilities since they aren't going to be doing any time in the weight room. The other would be ensuring proper warmups and stretching. I thought his responsibility was directing players to form a wall on the sideline on kickoffs and punts. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: CF DolFan on September 16, 2011, 09:42:21 am Shouldn't the strength and conditioning coach be preaching the necessity of hydrating? I would think that is one of the biggest part of his gameday responsibilities since they aren't going to be doing any time in the weight room. The other would be ensuring proper warmups and stretching. I still gotta lay this on the players. This is Florida. I mean, we give mandatory water breaks to High School teams at night these days. It isn't like evertyone and their brother is preaching hydration. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Brian Fein on September 16, 2011, 09:43:04 am I thought his responsibility was directing players to form a wall on the sideline on kickoffs and punts. That's only if you work for the Jets.Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Doc-phin on September 16, 2011, 12:01:13 pm Jones for playing up against Brady, the ultimate no-no for a free safety against that Pats. I don't care how many tackles he had.
And how can you blame the strength and conditioning coach with the short offseason and modified practice rules? Of course guys aren't in typical football shape. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Tenshot13 on September 16, 2011, 12:06:21 pm Sapp
Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Spider-Dan on September 16, 2011, 12:40:09 pm And how can you blame the strength and conditioning coach with the short offseason and modified practice rules? Of course guys aren't in typical football shape. New England seemed to be fine.Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Doc-phin on September 16, 2011, 02:16:45 pm New England seemed to be fine. Their offense ran hurry up, ours didn't. Reacting to offense is tougher than executing plays. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: masterfins on September 16, 2011, 05:20:32 pm Carroll
Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Sunstroke on September 16, 2011, 08:53:33 pm Our pass rush gets the goat from me. If you allow Tom Brady the time to sit back there and conduct the orchestra, he'll drop a symphony on your ass every time. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Brian Fein on September 17, 2011, 07:07:37 am So the voting:
Darren Krein - 4 Benny Sapp - 4 Nolan Carroll - 3 Rashad Jones - 1 David Corrao - 1 Keep the votes coming... Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: mecadonzilla on September 17, 2011, 09:35:32 am Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't NE run the no huddle offense with their starters in the preseason games?
If that's the case, then Sporano should have seen it coming and made sure the team was in better shape to open the season. I can't blame the conditioning coach for the head coach not doing his homework and making sure his team was physically prepared for the first game following the chaos of the offseason. You know Bellichek was focusing on Miami since the schedule was released this spring. Sporano should have done the same. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 17, 2011, 09:47:58 am Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't NE run the no huddle offense with their starters in the preseason games? If that's the case, then Sporano should have seen it coming and made sure the team was in better shape to open the season. I can't blame the conditioning coach for the head coach not doing his homework and making sure his team was physically prepared for the first game following the chaos of the offseason. You know Bellichek was focusing on Miami since the schedule was released this spring. Sporano should have done the same. I think Doc-fins point was given the short preseason. It would be impossible for any coach to have prepared the defense to be in shape to respond to the no huddle offense and any team in the NFL who ran the no huddle would have worn out any of the defenses. (I don't buy that, but it seems to be Doc's argument.) If you do buy that line of thinking, then Brian Daboll should be the GOAT, because he didn't run the no huddle and do to NE what NE did to Miami. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: mecadonzilla on September 17, 2011, 10:07:08 am Hoodie, didn't the Pats run no-huddle in the preseason games with their starters? I don't think it should have been a surprise to Sporano.
Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 17, 2011, 10:14:13 am Hoodie, didn't the Pats run no-huddle in the preseason games with their starters? I don't think it should have been a surprise to Sporano. I think they did. But I don't think the excuse was that the no huddle surprised Mia, but the excuse was because of the new rules and lack of off-seasoning conditioning there was no possible way any coach could have prepared any team to the defend the no huddle in the Miami heat for an entire game without getting dehydrated, needing oxygen, etc. It just couldn't be done even if you knew what NE was going to do. If you agree with that excuse. Miami should have ran the no huddle and done the same thing to the Pats. Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: fyo on September 17, 2011, 10:53:11 am Sapp... with HM to Carroll.
Title: Re: Goat Trailer - Patriots Post by: Doc-phin on September 17, 2011, 11:19:36 am If you agree with that excuse. Miami should have ran the no huddle and done the same thing to the Pats. Myopic. You are saying Miami could have run no huddle all game with a new QB/coordinator combo and a short offseason. Seriously? There is no way (without pure luck) we could have run a bunch of no huddle and not just ended up punting or turning the ball over on a miscommunication, IMO. Facts - The offseason was reduced. The offseason is commonly referred to as the time to get into "football shape". Defense wears down faster than offense (without substituting). Our defense didn't get as much of a chance to substitute in this game as they would in a typical game. The Pats defense had a chance to substitute defensive players. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the advantages the Pats offense had with all of the offensive continuity they have. The Pats took advantage of the situation. It worked. It was slightly risky, but they had the offense to pull it off. Hats off to them and I don't think they will be able to use that same strategy game in game out. |