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Now I know that most people probably do not like Hank Jr. or what he said but I have another question. I'm guessing his intro or his music has been the opening for MNF since most of you have been watching. Now that he and ESPN have agreed to part ways (actually both sides say it was their idea to part), will you miss it? I myself am kind of sad as it has become kind of a "let's get it on" moment to open the game. What says the rest of you?

This is stupid. I don't really care what he said. It was stupid to say what he said (you should never use Hitler as any sort of comparison in your explanation), but I don't care. I want him singing the MNF intro.

I do have fond memories of this song, but I sorta thought it got old and cheesy, how they were always updating the lyrics for the games.

The other Sunday night song, with Faith Hill is awful.

I grew tired of it years ago. I can't remember the last time I tuned in in time to watch the intro.

I actually liked the intro to MNF long before Hank arrived. I'd love to see them go back to:

Duh-Duh Duh Duh-Duh

He is a fool and fool's shouldn't be rewarded. ESPN did the right thing.

Yeah, right, like anyone believes that Hank Jr. wanted to part with ESPN...

Anyway, I missed the intro last Monday and I expect I'll continue to miss it for a while. I never really liked the whole song, though, just the last line.

Hank Williams Jr. had every right to say what he said on Fox News.

ESPN had every right to fire him if they didn't like it, although what they said in the press release was total bullshit.

Just remember ESPN is owned by Disney/ABC and they are one of Obama's biggest campaign contributors, ESPN had no problem with some rather distasteful things Kenny Mayne said about Sarah Palin.  Remember they just gave Paul Azinger shit about busting the President's balls over the economy.  Obama shows up everytime it's bracket season on ESPN.

So people like me will exercise my freedom of choice and not watch ESPN anymore.

I think Monday Night Football is nowhere near on the radar any longer, ever since NBC's Sunday Night Football started.

The NBC Sunday Night Game has consistently been one of higher production quality and higher game / match-up quality. They also do the opening NFL kickoff game and have flex-scheduling options (a genius two benefits of this deal).

ESPN's Monday Night Football routinely has sub-par, less-interesting match-ups, like the Bucs and Colts, the Raiders and the Broncos and the Giants and the Rams, while NBC has match-ups like the Falcons and Eagles and the Packers and Saints.

Elmo could sing the MNF or SNF intro songs - it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.

Hells yeah!  To me, that song actually got me ready for football.  Not some liquored up red neck with no musical relevance.

I don't think ESPN wanted to can him, but he forced their hand by being a dick...after he apologized.  Had he just shut up after the "apology" he'd still be singing that crappy song every Monday night.

It was funny watching Hank go full retard on Fox News, though.  He was talking so much crazy, even the dimwit morning hosts were trying to backpedal and distance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9qrW32t7cl8


Great video from ESPN and I think Paul Finebaum might be dumber than Hank!

Flex scheduling does wonders for ratings

If Palin was the President, your point would be valid.  Right now, a rip on Palin bears no more concern than a rip on Arnold Schwarzenegger or Jesse Ventura.

In any case, I have three main points on this story:

1) MNF had a theme well before Hank Williams got involved, and it's a pretty famous theme by itself, so just use that one
2) MNF lost all real relevance when NBC got SNF
3) Pink's SNF music was way better than Faith Hill's is

+1.  That song was very, very, very awesome.  ...with the flying around helmets crashing into each other.  I masturbate to that song.

I'm glad Hank's done.  That song has been lame and overdone for the last 10 years or more.  I cringed when I heard it before the Pats v. Fins game.

Whew....nice to know I was not the only one!!!!!


I will miss the Hank intro and this is another case of they need to separate politics and sports!!!!

Funny how people are trashing ESPN, but Hank is really only pissed at Fox and has already written and recorded a song slamming Fox.

Who would have thought Bosephus and Jon Stewart would be on the same side of a media battle?   ;D

what did hank say to cause his departure ??? ??? ??? ???

He invoked Goodwin's Law on live national TV.

Instead of giving you a quote, check out the interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eF6vCv13bw

Nah, he's gone after ESPN as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/10/showbiz/hank-williams-song/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7

Unapologetic Hank Williams Jr. jabs ESPN, 'Fox and Friends' in new song


"At the end of his song posted Monday, Williams urged people to "keep 'Fox and Friends' and ESPN out of your homes" in light of the flare-up."

Haha, bet you never thought you would write that sentence.
On a side note, did you see him on the View??

LOL no.  I avoid The View at all costs. :P

The guy is an irrelevant a-hole.  It's one thing to say something stupid on TV.  But then to blame your employer and the show you were on when you said it.  See ya!

ESPN wants a guy to sing about football.  They want vanilla.  When you compare the President to Hitler, you gotta go.

To be honest, he wasn't comparing the President to Hitler. He was comparing the situation of Obama golfing with Boehner to Hitler golfing with Netanyahu. That is not the same as saying Obama is like Hitler and I think anyone who isn't trying to sensationalize the entire thing can see that.

Um, actually, it's a bit more than that.  Brian Kilmeade (one of the Fox & Friends hosts) said that he didn't understand the comparison, and Williams clarified it by saying that Obama is "the enemy."

Now, if you want to claim that Williams was just making an analogy about two people who should be mortal enemies having fun on the links, that's fine.  Hell, you might even be able to claim, "He never said who was who in that analogy; he's not picking sides."  But once he followed that statement up by saying that Obama is the enemy... he's done.

You can get away with calling Obama the enemy (especially on Fox), but you can't get away with it seconds after you compare him to Hitler.

I'm all for free speech, but you gotta understand your role.  If you're hired to appeal to everyone, you should probably shut your mouth when it comes to really divisive things, especially controversial stuff.

There are a lot of politicians I think are idiots and morons, but when I'm in a setting that can reflect my professional life, I don't really put it all out there.  I think there are also ways to express your legitimate position without alienating the whole world.

If Hank Williams went on Fox and said that he disagreed with the President's policy and is excited to get the country going again with conservative principles, fine.

Also, if he wants to say outrageous crap, fine.  But don't expect to stay employed by a major organization that's trying to keep as vanilla as possible.

Not quite.  He also called Obama "the enemy" (which gets lost in the shuffle).  No one should "the enemy" here, people with different points of view but the same ultimate goals in mind.  Calling the President "the enemy" is pretty bad.

The part that keeps bugging me the most about this whole episode is why is ANYONE interviewing Bocephus on TV about anything?

Political morning shows have to fill several hours every day.  They have to put anyone on there who's willing to speak.

Yes he was. He could have just easily have said the difference between those two is wider than the Grand Canyon and people would have gotten it.
He could have said it is like watching Hitler and Churchill or Stalin or FDR and that would have been more historically relevant.
But no he chose a polarizing figure( Hitler) and compared him to a modern Jewish leader whom the right are in love with because of his hard line stance against the Palestinians. Also Obama has been repeatedly been attack by the right for not supporting Israel enough.
So to say it was just a flippant analogy, when he then quickly followed it up by calling the president the "enemy" speaks volumes. There are many people on the right who believe Obama is just like Hitler.
I am not outraged by his stupid comparison/analogy, I am more shocked by all the people on the right who want to blow it off as just a little misunderstanding.
Everyday I go to right wing news sites and blogs and you should read the ignorance and paranoia that permeates the postings. It is frightening.

Yes you are right bsmooth it is only right wing news sites and blogs that ignorance and paranoia permeates the postings. Are you serious? 

The whole lynch mob mentality over peoples opinion is rediculous. It an opinion, a comparison opinion. It doesn't take very long to find stupid opinions from pretty much everyone, myself included. He didn't make a racist comment. He didn't slander him. People called Bush a terrorist numerous times and very few people cared to hold them accountable.  Everyone has stupid opinions and talk radio, talk shows, and message boards are filled with them.

Political correctness is directly contributing to the pussifiction of our country and I think it effects every corner of society. 

If you think I am on the right, you must not read my posts in the political threads. If I am on the right, I'm not sure the center or the left is even visable to most.

Name one celebrity who called Bush a terrorist on national TV and kept a similar job.  Random hippies in Code Pink rallies are not equivalent.

If Kanye West had been singing the intro to MNF, you damn well better believe he would have been fired after "George Bush doesn't care about black people."

Hank Williams is an asshole, anyway.  Even after the fact, he blamed Fox and ESPN.  I get that he'd (stupidly) blame ESPN, but Fox?  All they did was let him talk.

Damn right!I couldn't agree more.
About the song....I liked the old music intro better myself(but not as much as Dave,lol)One thing I cannot stand is to tune in for a big game and be forced to listen to some b.s. mini concert.The all time worst was when the Bucs won the super bowl and couldn't even enjoy it because they rolled Bon jovi out onto the field to perform.....totally classless.I hate the Faith Hill intro,and the college football thing they had with Big and Rich was HORRIBLE!
Also,although I've never been a nascar fan,they might manage to run the Daytona 500 without a rainout if they would skip the stupid hour and a half country music bullshit.

Look I know you do not want to believe it, but have you seen some of the polls concerning the right? Almost 30% think Obama is a muslim. There is a fair % who think he is not an American citizen. Many actually believe he is trying to destroy the Constitution and make us the new USSR.
You are right, many people called Bush Hitler for the wars and other stuff. It was just as wrong as this was. No one is Hitler, and I am personally tired of the constant comparison to Hitler and the Nazis.
That being said, these same frightened and misinformed people who I see daily on various right political sites and news pages are having their fears and anger played upon by the powers that be in the GOP to get people elected in THIS election cycle. That is what is frightening. These people are going to turn out in droves to vote their fears and not intelligently, which is what you should do every single time.
Also in case you were not aware, Fox News in #1 and they push a lot of this fear and ignorance and that the president is the enemy.
What all you apologists seem to miss is the fact he had a whole plethora of examples to use to discuss the vastness in political differences between Obama and Boehner. Yet he picked Hitler and a Jew. If you do not think he was trying to make a "statement", you are fools. This is not about political correctness, it is about the rancid nature of political discourse in this country.

^^^^ I don't disagree with much of what you said. What I'm saying is the liberals and networks like MSNBC do the exact same thing and everyone knows it.  Why try and pretend they don't? For every Sean Hannity there is a Chris Matthews and so on.  Neither is productive for society.

If you define the craziest random liberals as equal to a cable news network, sure.

When was the last time Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, or another lead MSNBC personality said, "I really think George Bush is a racist," as Glenn Beck said of Obama?  When was the last time one of them accused GWB of setting up death camps, or FEMA concentration camps?

This continual drive-towards-equivalency is maddening; Fox News and MSNBC are not even close when it comes to the degree of what each does.  Do you see MSNBC-sponsored Occupy [x] protests, like the officially-organized-and-promoted Fox News Channel Tax Day Tea Parties?  Why do you think that is?

I like Chris Matthews and there's no question that he's a liberal.  But I don't think he's unfair in his positions.  I also think he's very politically saavy.  At his very worst, he's a terrible interviewer, because he focuses on stupid minutia that doesn't matter, in order to get his conservative guests to say something that can be held against them.  At his best, he is a good bridge between non ideological people that he disagrees with.  There are good discussions on his show, from time to time.

On the other hand, he has Ron Paul on there (who's a great guest whenever I've seen him on other shows) and he focuses on stupid points, like how Ron Paul would've acted during the civil rights movement....in my opinion, a waste of an interview.

Matthews' show is more about politics, not issues.  More often than not, the discussion is on how certain views and statements will help/hurt a candidate politically.  Very rarely does he discuss whether or not certain policies will actually be helpful to the citizens.  It's not about weighing different opinions, it's about how those things will help/hurt a candidate's electability/polling.  Beck/Hannity are the opposite.  It's just a different kind of show.

You don't think he is unfair in his positions because you agree with him. He constantly sensationalizes things and turns a blind eye to his people doing the same.

for instance ... In a classic example of liberal media bias, Chris Matthews on Friday bashed former President George W. Bush for holding Prince Abdullah of Saudia Arabia’s hand when he visited the Crawford ranch back in 2005.

After mentioning how “the bowing and scraping” involved in the “paramount task” of presidents honoring Arab leaders has sometimes “been nearly comical,” the host of the syndicated program bearing his name completely ignored President Barack Obama’s deep bow to the very same man less than two years ago

I found this qucikly but it happens all the time. From both sides.  Mathews says the Tea party movement is the same as Muslim extremists. you might agree but I find that offensive that a conservative movement woudl be compared to something so evil. 

That's all I'm saying. Quit freaking following the people just looking to get everyone excited for a paycheck and our country would be in a much better place. 

I am not saying that Matthews doesn't have a liberal bias.  He does.  He's a liberal, no question, and his show is from that perspective.

I just don't think that they're (for the most part), unreasonable or out of touch with the mainstream liberals.  I don't always agree with him.  That's just my opinion on him.

He also has conservative guests on his show (some that host when he's out) that I really like, namely Michael Smerconish.

I have a love/hate relationship with Matthews.  He's a brilliant strategist, but he's a terrible interviewer who talks over his guests.

First of all, 2 years ago, Chris Matthews criticized Obama for bowing to the Japanese emperor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crrInQNMM-w), so your premise is fundamentally invalid; he has criticized Obama for bowing to foreign dignitaries.

Second, to illustrate my previous point: where was the outrage from Fox News when Bush was holding hands and playing kissy-face with the Saudi royals?  That's right, it was non-existent.  Fox only had a problem with deference to foreign dignitaries when it was a socialist Kenyan Muslim Democrat doing it.

That's only because you consider Muslim fundamentalists more "evil" than Christian (or other religious) fundamentalists.

From a liberal perspective, neither are "evil"; both are wrong.

I swear most political threads have so many agendas no one deals with the point.

Both sides have extremism. I'm probably more conservative these days but I cannot stand many of the Fox blowhards. I just don't get it. I equally do not get the facination with Rachel Maddox or Keith Olberman. Do they bring up some valid issues? Sure but maybe it's just me becasue I can't help but see hypocrisy in almost every attack from any of them.

I'm sorry, I just don't agree with you.  Maddow is not extreme.

The hosts on MSNBC (on the shows that I've seen) are not extremists on the left like those on FOX are.  They just aren't.

Michael Moore, yes.  But not Maddow, Chris Matthews, or any of the rest. 

I don't want to blow it off as a misunderstanding.  I know why they fired him.  And they have the right to.  Just don't ask me to like it.

 ??? I'm no political pundit as I don't trust any of these "reporters" to give me an unbiased approach. Maddow is like Bill O'Reilly, but on the Left side, obviously.

Um.  No.  While she may lean left, she is not like Bill O'Reilly.  Unlike Bill O, she's an actual journalist and has standards regarding broadcasting.