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Romo is about one notch above a Chad Henne, but that's about it. He's a bona-fide choke-job artist of the worst kind. He is terrible in the clutch - TERRIBLE.

Wrong.  I'll cite from one of the posters on ESPN.com's comment threads:

Before this weekend:
 
Romo has a 10-18 (.357) record when he has the ball in a close game in the fourth quarter/overtime, so he doesn’t always find a way to lose these games, as evident by his 9 fourth quarter comebacks and 10 game-winning drives. In just comeback situations, his record is 9-17 (.346).
 
Romo’s 10-18 record in close fourth quarter opportunities fits in neatly with the 21-35 (.375) record by Troy Aikman, the Dallas quarterback Romo is trying to fill the void for. It’s also close to the 45-75 (.375) record by Brett Favre. 
 
It’s also a better record than Aaron Rodgers’ 5-18 (.217) mark in the same situations.
 
If you think Tony Romo is a choke artist that can’t get out of his own way in close games, then you’re going to have to expand that gallery to include some other quarterbacks, such as Rodgers and Rivers, who have nearly identical 4th quarter numbers as Romo does.

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I'm not a Dallas fan, nor a Romo fan. I am a fan of the truth tho.
 
It's not nonsense to point out that Romo has a better record then Rodgers when it comes to being tied or behind in the 4th quarter. I understand you want to think so because it directly contradicts your opinions but the numbers don't lie. 
 
You want some comparisons? Here:
 
When people talk about Romo’s personal history of mistakes in crunch time, they are really pointing out just a few of these games in particular.
 
1. The botched hold against Seattle in the 2006 playoffs.
2. The fourth quarter in the 2007 NFC-D against the Giants; specifically the last drive and the interception.
3. The game-losing pick six in Pittsburgh in 2008 after Dallas blew a 10 point lead.
4. The Sunday night debacle in New York with his fumble and poor decision to challenge Revis.
 
How about Rodgers?
 
1. After forcing overtime in Arizona in a 2009 Wild Card game, Rodgers overthrew a wide open Greg Jennings and then fumbled the ball, which was returned for the winning touchdown.
2. In 2009, Green Bay blew a 10 point lead to 3-13 Tampa Bay, and Rodgers threw a pick six on 4th down to seal it.
3. In 2008, Rodgers had a 2 point deficit against Tampa Bay and the ball at the TB 40 with 2:26 left. He threw two incompletions, the last being an interception as Tampa won the game.
4. Last year in Washington, Rodgers threw an interception in overtime that was returned to the GB 39, setting up the winning field goal for the Redskins.
 
What about Philip Rivers?
 
1. Against a 4-12 Kansas City team in 2007, Rivers was sacked, fumbled, and watched it returned for a touchdown to fall behind 30-16 in a loss.
2. Against the 2008 Bills, Rivers was down by 6 points and threw an interception on first down at the BUF 9.
3. To start the 2010 season, Rivers led two long drives into Kansas City territory, needing a touchdown, and threw incomplete on 4th down both times. His last two passes were incomplete at the KC 6.
4. With the ball at the Oakland 33 and down by a point, Rivers was sacked, fumbles, argues with an official as the Raiders return it for a touchdown. Now down 8, Rivers throws incomplete on 4th down. Oakland would sweep San Diego in 2010.
5. Against the Patriots last year, Rivers led a rally to get within 3 points. He had 1:55 and just 47 yards to go for a touchdown. He only moved the ball 20 yards and the Chargers missed a 50 yard field goal.
 
Romo has had his share of mistakes. He has underperformed in the postseason. But it is all overglamorized because everything, including the criticism, is bigger in Texas. Romo does not have the Super Bowl win to help people forget his mistakes like some other players, nor does anyone seem interested in giving him credit when he does win big games.
 
The 2006 Colts (9-0) and 2009 Saints (13-0) were undefeated teams that went on to win the Super Bowl that year, and Romo handed each of them their first loss of the season in games where he played well. He threw four touchdowns and put the game away late against a Green Bay team that was 10-1 in a much hyped 2007 matchup. He won all three meetings against the 2009 Eagles, a playoff team. He threw a 50+ yard touchdown pass late in the fourth quarter in both meetings against the 2007 Giants, another championship team, to put those games out of reach.
 
This Dallas team also doesn’t feature the most encouraging group of smart, crunch-time players in the league. Whether it’s an absurd play like Tashard Choice’s end-of-half fumble in Washington last year, Miles Austin’s tipped interceptions and wrong routes, Jason Witten’s red zone struggles, the three blocked punt returns for touchdowns in the fourth quarter/overtime since 2008, or all the kicking problems, there’s always something going on with the Cowboys and Romo gets all the blame.
 
Well, fair's fair. If you want to single out Romo then you're going to have to take down Rodgers and Rivers, comparable QBs in the 4th to Romo, as well.

Romo must owe the bookies money because he has blown two easy wins this year.

If you want to see what Brett Favre would be like if he wasn't lucky, see: Tony Romo

Romo has been a starting quarterback far too long and supposedly talented to pull some of the shit he does.  I realize as a quarterback in the NFL sometimes you have to force a throw, either because it's late in the game or it's fourth down and forever etc.  But he forces throws that at this point in his career shouldn't even be leaving his hand in the first place and the out route into double coverage against the Jets was a perfect example of it.

Rodgers led his team to a SB win. So did Aikman and Favre.  To compare them based solely on their 4th quarter win % is bogus.

Romo definitely forces throws.  That is not a debatable opinion.  However, I blame the coach for that particular play.  That pass was supposed to be to Dez Bryant who was barely able to walk, much less run.  Why he was still in the game is still open to questioning.  But, I don't think Romo would have thrown that ball if he knew that Dez was barely ambulatory.  Romo took the blame in the press, but I still think it was the coach who deserves the blame.

Rodgers led his team to a SB win exactly 6 games ago.  Rivers has never led his team to a SB win.  Yet both have been held in higher regard than Romo for quite a while.

The point is, regardless of rings won, you can still compare "4th quarter win %" to "4th quarter win %".  Prior to this thread, if I had asked you, "Who has a better 4th quarter win %, Rodgers or Romo?" you almost certainly would have answered Rodgers, anyway.  So I don't see what SBs  have to do with it.

There are always questions that can be raised and we never know because we're not in the film room, so it's good that you are questioning this.  There are times when you have to force a throw, but he's still forcing throws he shouldn't even be making, he still stares down his recievers which in the NFL is almost inexcusable, and if he gets hit a couple times, not even sacked, just hit, the game is usually over.