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Armando is reporting it has been decided that Jeff Ireland will stay as the GM. And Sparano will be fired after the season as of now

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/

Way to alienate the fan base further Mr. Ross.

Armando doesn't know this any better than anyone else on these forums.  Another irresponsible story.

Reporters who treat the newspaper like its a message board kinda piss me off.

Are you serious Brian?  You don't think he has a few connections at team headquarters that maybe the average guy doesn't? We know of certain "fans" that have inside people so to think a local reporter doesn't is just plain silly.

With that said I still don't get the Ireland love.  What exactly has he done to show he is worth keeping?

I think Ireland knows how to play the game. Knows who to suck up to. Can play the "Parcells was making these picks not me" don't blame me for this mess type of thing. And once Ireland was side-by-side with Ross during and throughout the Harbaugh debacle he probably earned brownie points with Ross.

With that said, IF a big name coach like a Cowher or someone of that stature wanted to come to Miami. I have no doubt Ross would fall in love and throw Ireland under the bus in 2 seconds. LOL. I think that's the kind of guy Ross is. Always wanting to play with the shinny new toy and ditch the old one.

get ready, the next miami dolphins head coach will be....

eric mangini

If they hire him I'll stop watching.  He didn't do shit as coach of the Jets and he was terrible in Cleveland.

The article says "I am reporting..." like he has no source to cite, he's just making it up, like he IS the source.  How unprofessional to use "I am reporting" in a newspaper article anyway.  Really?  You write for the newspaper, we know that you are reporting something.  Cite someone, quote someone, show some facts. 

Otherwise, this article reads as pure conjecture.

Would you be shocked if he was right?

No, I wouldn't.

However, he's a news journalist, and unless he's writing an editorial column, reporting his opinion or conjecture as fact is irresponsible.  He is a source, and he could write a story that says "BREAKING NEWS - AARON RODGERS TRADED TO MIAMI FOR A HOT DOG" and people would cite him and quote him and tweet his story and all of it is false.

Journalism 101 - don't make up your own news stories.

It is COMMON practice amoung journlist to get together for lunch, bounce around wild speculation and then cite the source "as insiders are speculating about the possibility that"   

I tend to agree.

He's not going to name names. He's not going to say he's not going to name names, he just isn't.  It's very simply when you read between the lines. He's been told what's what but he's been told that if he even mentions where he got the information he won't be getting any more information. So he's reporting what he knows without mentioning how he knows it.

I don't see why Ross has such a hard on for Ireland either.....he is fucking terrible and they both need to go if he is going to fire anyone!!!!!

The only problem I have with Ireland staying is that I wouldn't want that affecting the decision as to who the next coach might be.  If the next coach has no desire to work with Ireland and wants to bring in his own guy, I say let him do it. If he doesn't mind having Ireland stay, then I don't have a problem with it.

I don't believe the problem is with the talent level, at least not with the talent level of the starters.  I believe the problem is mainly in the production gotten from the starters which I place the blame solely on Sparano. There's also a bit of a problem with the talent level of the backups when the starters go down, but I'm not quite sure whom to blame that on Ireland or Sparano, probably a little bit of both.  I see too many players like Patrick Turner, Tedd Ginn Jr and various others that other teams seem to get more production out of than Miami does.

sparano is officially canned... press conference scheduled for 4:15 eastern to announce the move.

wonder who the next "savior" is supposed to be.

Well Mike, I guess you got what you wanted. As long as Ireland is replaced, I'll be happy.

You might not be far off.  And if Dawn Aponte gets her way he will be hired.

I don't want Mangini, but it is a very real possibility. More so than many Dolphins fans know.

Uh, I don't think I was the only one who wanted it. I think most of South Florida and the vast majority of Dolphins fans around the world wanted this. I'm not alone in wanting Sparano fired....lol. Far from it!

Not saying that you're the only one. At the same time, he's not the only problem.

Quarterback is just as big a problem. Probably bigger actually.

I have to disagree. If you don't block, you don't score. Doesn't matter who your QB is.

Well you can have an all world o-line, if your QB sucks you can't win. Look at Chicago once Cutler went down. Look at Indy without Manning. All the teams who have legit starting QB's (minus Denver but no team in that division has a legit QB) are going to the playoffs.  No QB=No Winning.

The o-line is an issue but as big of an issue as some seem to think. I mean Bush has been a beast the 2nd half of this year, somebody is blocking for him!!

Its obvious that you're all about the QB. That's fine. But no line=no QB. The QB's you mentioned are both injured. The didn't end up that way while driving to work. The right of this line sucks. They don't even run to that side of the field. Most pressures come from that side of the field. Solidify the line, and they could win with Moore. Ignore that, & your "franchise" QB will be like Henne. Great arm, but shellshocked & on IR.

Chicago's offensive line is god awful, and has been for 3 seasons now. 

And you're saying Philip Rivers is not a legit QB?





But anyways:  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/981054-keeping-jeff-ireland-precludes-dolphins-from-drafting-qbs-barkley-or-griffin


it honestly wouldn't surprise me for Miami to pass on a QB this year


1983 - 2000:  All Miami had was a QB

2001 - Present Day:  Miami has had everything but a QB.


so again, it wouldn't surprise me for Miami's front office to drop the ball....again

Chicago was walking into the playoffs blindfolded with Cutler under center. And his injury was a fluke this year NOTHING o-line related. Not to mention with that GARBAGE o-line last year they were playing a HOME game in the NFC Championship game last year. Proving once again, QB is all that matters!

Rivers is legit, but he has the biggest idiot coach of all time. That is too much for him to even overcome.

So why didn't Carolina do that last year? They could have kept Moore for 1/10th of the cost they paid for Newton. And they could have used the #1 pick elsewhere.

Oh wait, because Matt Moore sucks, that's why they didn't do it. Same reason why Miami won't do it. Cause Moore sucks! Win 4 games vs 4 garbage teams and people want to sign him up long-term, unreal.

MikeO, you realize that if you weren't so black and white on issues, someone might actually agree with you don't you?  I mean either a guy is a franchise QB or he's pond scum. There's no in between with you.  The reality is that there are many shades of gray in between franchise QB and sucks. Rarely is it one or the other.  Moore had some decent games, but he's obviously not a frachise QB. That doesn't mean he sucks. If you would cut the guy a little slack, (just a bit), people like me could agree with you.

Moore sucks. There are and always have been "good" QB's who aren't franchise QB's. Matt Hasselbeck (in his day), Joe Flacco, Carson Palmer (in his day), David Garrard (in his day) come to mind. But Moore isn't in their class and never will be.  I'm sorry.

It is black-n-white when it comes to Moore. He isn't a starting QB in the NFL. As a back-up, sure. No problem. As a starter who can take a team to the playoffs, no chance in hell. There is no naming Moore your starter and trying to build around him. It can't work! It is impossible to make that work.  Because Matt Moore sucks.

It's black-n-white when it comes to MikeO.

So you have admitted their are "good" QB's. What no "average" QB's? No "below average"?  They go from being "good" to "sucks"?

fair enough, not a fan of me. I got no problem with that.  But I hope you don't make this thread about me. Let's all try and stay on topic for once!!!

Actually MikeO I think you have a lot of good input, but it often gets lost in translation because of your polorizing views on things. If you would take some constructive criticism, I think the topics would have a much better chance of staying on topic and you wouldn't have to ask people to stay on topic.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

I think you are wrong. Feel free to disagree   ;)

Polarizing? If you disagree with an opinion just disagree and present the other side. I don't think having an "opinion" on a player, coach, or team some how makes one polarizing.  lol

Cut the head off the hydra, Ireland needs to go too.  That's all I'm gonna say.

MikeO, you completely missed my point. Just offering your opinion is not polarizing, when you throw around words like "Suck" to describe anyone that you don't think is a star is polarizing. It's not what you say so much as how you say it.

I'm not saying you should change, you have the right to say it however you wish, however if you are going to continue to say it that way you are going to continue to steer topics off thread, so please spare us the whole "You're steering us off thread again" verbage.  You reap what you sow.

saying a player "sucks" gives others the right to steer the entire thread off topic? Interesting.

Not the way I view it. Someone could just present the opposite opinion on why thus player doesn't "suck" and keep it on topic. But each their own!

Nevermind. I should have known better.