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Title: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: tepop84 on December 24, 2011, 02:23:52 pm
Dolphins putting the nuts to them so far.  Dominating on offense and defense.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: DZA on December 24, 2011, 02:29:01 pm
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHH :o

Way too Early, you know the phins by now


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: raptorsfan29 on December 24, 2011, 02:35:39 pm
we should get excited about this even though it's only halftime, up 17-0 against a team with the #1 seed in the AFC East, and against the most hated rival.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: DZA on December 24, 2011, 02:47:13 pm
Please ??? ??? ???

Hope they don't blow the lead


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: raptorsfan29 on December 24, 2011, 03:03:41 pm
ok seriously, how hard is it to snap a ball.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: Dave Gray on December 24, 2011, 03:05:48 pm
I have a sinking feeling that we're going to lose this game.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: Dave Gray on December 24, 2011, 03:08:58 pm
Big time holding on that TD play.  Bogus.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 03:13:22 pm
Another Matt Moore turnover deep inside Miami territory that gives the opponent life. Just like in the Dallas and Philly games.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: DZA on December 24, 2011, 03:16:48 pm
 ::) ::) ::) ::)

I usually dont blog during games but it seems first half was a tease ::)

As usual, Tom freaking brady sparks up some offense after being put on his ass only to look like a hero at the end. WTF


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 03:18:18 pm
Matt Moore almost turns it over again deep inside Miami territory. Anyone still believe Matt Moore is a starting QB in this league? That he can handle the job over the course of a season.

The man is a nice backup, he isn't a starter. And it showing it again today. He can't even play with a big lead against the WORST defense in the NFL.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 03:23:22 pm
Well so much for that 17pt hafltime lead. Gone in 13 min. Thanks for nothing Matt Moore and Brian Daboll for letting NEW ENGLAND start pretty much every drive in Dolphins territory after halftime because of bad QB play and horrible play calling.

U-HAUL game next week, just mail it in boys and fire everyone on this staff as they are walking off the field next Sunday.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: dolphins4life on December 24, 2011, 03:23:38 pm
Well, that lead sure evaporated really quickly.



Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 03:36:23 pm
Annnnnnnnnnnnd, another TURNOVER by Matt Moore.

He is giving this game away by himself.  Matt Moore sucks


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: DZA on December 24, 2011, 03:37:37 pm
Annnnnnnnnnnnd, another TURNOVER by Matt Moore.

He is giving this game away by himself.  Matt Moore sucks

 ;D ;D ;D

Frustration sets in


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 03:39:23 pm
;D ;D ;D

Frustration sets in

More like "REALITY" sets in. The real Matt Moore came to play in the 2nd half. Not the guy impersonating him in the 1st half


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: tepop84 on December 24, 2011, 03:43:05 pm
Lets keep Bowles next year, what a great coach.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 03:47:53 pm
Lets keep Bowles next year, what a great coach.

Bowles has all the charisma of a thin Romeo Crenell

Why is he wearing a headset? I haven't seen him talk into it once.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: tepop84 on December 24, 2011, 03:55:02 pm
At least they kept the continuity that everybody wanted.  They went from one incompetant boob to another.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: hordman on December 24, 2011, 04:00:08 pm
Somebody cover focking Welker for pete's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: DZA on December 24, 2011, 04:04:35 pm
::) ::) ::) ::)


As usual, Tom freaking brady sparks up some offense after being put on his ass only to look like a hero at the end. WTF

 ;D :D :o ::)

LOL 

Saw it coming


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: hordman on December 24, 2011, 04:04:52 pm
Way to give up 27 UNANSWERED fockin pts!!!!!!!!!!

Nolan, I don't know what speech you gave at halftime, but don't give it again.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 04:06:33 pm
Way to give up 27 UNANSWERED fockin pts!!!!!!!!!!

Nolan, I don't know what speech you gave at halftime, but don't give it again.

Defense wasn't great in the 2nd half. But when Matt Moore is giving the opponent the ball on the wrong side of the 50 time after time and throwing INT's and fumbles....you can't win. It's like Daboll never called a game before with a lead.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: tepop84 on December 24, 2011, 04:09:39 pm
where is the urgency?


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 04:11:18 pm
where is the urgency?

Up until this last drive Matt Moore was 2 for 6 for 21 yards an INT, 2 fumbles, one fumble lost in the 2nd half


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: tepop84 on December 24, 2011, 04:12:49 pm
that was good.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: hordman on December 24, 2011, 04:13:33 pm
Defense wasn't great in the 2nd half. But when Matt Moore is giving the opponent the ball on the wrong side of the 50 time after time and throwing INT's and fumbles....you can't win. It's like Daboll never called a game before with a lead.

Daboll should have never been OFF coord to begin with.  you get the Browns rejects you get the Brownies results.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: tepop84 on December 24, 2011, 04:14:54 pm
jfc.  no onside kick  = game over.  fuck you todd bowles.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 04:20:20 pm
no onside kick in that situation with 3 timeouts is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen a head coach (interim) or not do.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: Frimp on December 24, 2011, 04:30:20 pm
I think I've seen enough to know that Moore and Bowles are not the answer. Why now? Because I wasn't going to write Moore off when for the most part, he was playing not just good, but very good. But, we see the same mistakes from him that we saw in other losses. Nothing has changed.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 04:33:36 pm
I think I've seen enough to know that Moore and Bowles are not the answer. Why now? Because I wasn't going to write Moore off when for the most part, he was playing not just good, but very good. But, we see the same mistakes from him that we saw in other losses. Nothing has changed.

Moore lost the Dallas, Giants, and Pats games by himself. Led the offense for 1 first down and 4 yards vs the Giants in the 4th quarter. All 3 games Miami had won but Moore lost with stupid turnovers.

And Miami was out early and in control vs Philly until Moore started fumbling and turning it over. Moore has yet to beat 1 decent team this year. His wins are vs garbage vs Buffalo, Washington, KC, Oakland. And vs a decent team he can't play a complete game.

Matt Moore=Career Back-up. If he is starting for Miami week 1 next year, its another wasted season and another year of finishing in 3rd or 4th place and NOT making the playoffs.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: mecadonzilla on December 24, 2011, 04:38:34 pm
no onside kick in that situation with 3 timeouts is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen a head coach (interim) or not do.

It was the safe call.  It wasn't bad to do with 3 TOs and I see the logic, BUT as I said to my buddy when it happened, you don't give Brady the ball back.  You know he and Bellichek aren't going to sit on it.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2011, 04:39:42 pm
It was the safe call.  It wasn't bad to do with 3 TOs and I see the logic, BUT as I said to my buddy when it happened, you don't give Brady the ball back.  You know he and Bellichek aren't going to sit on it.

even if you don't get the onside kick you still have 3 timeouts. Gotta try the onside kick. It was a terrible decision and bad call by Todd


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: hordman on December 24, 2011, 04:40:42 pm
Matt Moore=Career Back-up. If he is starting for Miami week 1 next year, its another wasted season and another year of finishing in 3rd or 4th place and NOT making the playoffs.

This is the key quote.  Moore is a career back-up and nothing else.  I'm glad to see the Phins compete in the 2nd half of the season and still show some fight.  just disappointed that they  held a 17-0 lead and lost 27-24.  

You think that Nolan would have had a game plan to counteract the Pats after their abysmal 1st half.  it's only common sense.  you're not going to stop the Pats complete, so you better have 2 game plans to in case you to get up to compete with them on the comeback. I know it looks 20/20 hindsight vision, but in this league you have to account for it.  You really think you were going to shut out the Pats 17-0, 24-0, etc ?  hell no, Pats were going to make a run and you better be prepared for it.


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: tepop84 on December 24, 2011, 04:45:20 pm
moore is an ok qb.  bowles is an idiot though


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: suck for luck on December 25, 2011, 04:45:22 pm
It's pretty brutal when you dominate a first half and you know they will end up choking it off LOL.

Merry Christmas everyone. I got a Dolphins coozie and some Dolphin tupperware. 
 ;D


Title: Re: Dolphins - Pats II
Post by: MikeO on December 26, 2011, 07:15:24 am
This is the key quote.  Moore is a career back-up and nothing else.  I'm glad to see the Phins compete in the 2nd half of the season and still show some fight.  just disappointed that they  held a 17-0 lead and lost 27-24.  


I agree, when Sparano got fired I thought they would mail in these games and they have showed fight. I DVR'd the game and I couldn't sleep last night so I tortured myself and just re-watched the game. The Moore turnovers you can't come back from. When you fumble and give Brady and the Pats the ball on the 30 yard line, even the 85' Bears will give up points in those situations. You can't expect any defense to hold up and prevent points with that short of a field. Then when Miami is driving for points of their own the back-breaking INT near the goaline gives NE the ball back and doesn't give the defense much time to rest and rushes them back on the field. That turnover isn't about field position its about killing momentum.

From the 3rd quarter till the final drive Miami had in the 4th, Moore was 2 for 6 for 21 yards and INT and 2 fumbles, one lost fumble. He literally gave the game away by himself with that performance.

Nolan got outcoached 6 ways till Sunday, and he has blood on his hands but there is no defending Moore. Just like in the Dallas game where he gave the Cowboys the ball on the 2 yard line and a gift TD. Just like in the Philly game where he gave Phily the ball on the 1 yard line and a gift TD. Just like how in the 4th quarter of the Giants game where all he needed was a couple first downs and to eat up clock, he led the offense to 1 first down and 4 f'n yards the entire quarter as well as an INT. Miami isn't a good enough team to rebound from giving teams a free TD and free points.

Being a "STARTING" QB isn't just about big fancy stats, its also about managing a game and not losing a game for your team. Moore loses games by himself.  It's easy to sit back and say.."well the defense gave up points, blame them" Well look at the circumstances why. When you hand the team the ball on the 1, 2, and 30 yard lines of course they will give up points. When you can't eat up any clock at all and give them no rest in the 2nd half and end drive with turnovers in these games of course they will wear down. I'm not making excuses for the defense, Mike Nolan sucked, Sean Smith sucked, Culver sucked, Will Allen sucked vs the Pats but jesus christ Matt Moore couldn't bring home a game in where Miami was up 17-0 and dominated the Pats in the 1st half in every way possible and he handed them a win.

I have been down on Moore more than most around here, but at halftime of that game Saturday I was having 2nd thoughts of am I wrong. Maybe this guy has made the leap, but that 2nd half performance cemented my stance on him and I know I am right. And if Moore is starting Week 1 for Miami next year this team has 4-6 wins written all over it for next year.