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McCoy, Philbin, and Bowles are getting 2nd interviews in NYC  (where Ross is) this week. Looks like those are the final 3.

Zimmer and Toub have been told they are out of the running.


IF they hire Bowles its a clear sign Ross has just found a caretaker till the next "big name" guy is on the market that he can chase. It makes zero sense to hire him. But considering who is doing the hiring I wouldn't be surprised. Oh and McCoy, who I wouldn't mind getting the job in all honesty and is my top choice with this new news, he did learn under and get his feet wet under Dan Henning which concerns me some I will admit.

Philbin for HC

Bowles for DC


my $.02

Might be that way. I can't see them interviewing guys for a month and then giving it to Bowles, it makes no sense on any level and you will piss off an already very angry fan base who didn't go to games last year with that hire. From a PR standpoint it makes zero sense from a football stand point it makes zero sense.

I will take Philbin or McCoy honestly, I mean either one is a roll of the dice to be honest.

Going along with Ross's "finding the next Don Shula" search:


Mike McCoy will be 40 years old at seasons start.

Don Shula was 40 years old when he took the Dolphins job



JUST SAYIN!!!!!!!

Miami Herald reporting that the Fins didn't like Zimmer because he was too blunt and honest for them!! He must have hurt Ireland's feelings! LOL LOL

Sounds like youst  wouldn't get the job either. Just saying...

Sooooo he'd rather hire someone who is going to sugar-coat things and tell them what they want to hear?


Great  ::)

I can picture Zimmer in his interview going in saying he won't work with Nolan cause he is an ass, you have crap at the QB position what will you do to improve it for me, I want no part of Daboll he is gone, don't force me to take Bowles on my staff, and the first time Marshall starts in with his antics I an't putting up with it.  Got any other questions?!

Zimmer is Tom Coughlin....minus the 5% charm Tom try's to have! LOL

Reports are coming out that McCoy is so confident he will get the job, that he took his name out of consideration for the Raiders gig

I was just thinking, "The only thing this Dolphin offense is missing, is the option."

Nice to see someone actually wants the job for once. I like McCoy in that he will adapt to his players and not try and force a square peg into a round hole.

I am fine with McCoy or Philbin honestly, I would be optimistic about either to be honest. If they hire Bowles then this starts the next 10 years of failure and they clearly are the dumbest franchise in all of professional sports

Why wouldn't you want to see Bowles but are ok with the other two? (I'm asking seriously, I'm curious why you think that.)

Because its a status quo hire. Sparano 2.0. Another one of Parcells "guys" who got hired by Bill back in the day and followed him from town to town and he thinks like Bill. Same loser Parcells Philosophy of run, run, pass. 1980s establish the run type football that is so outdated its not even funny.

McCoy is very young, he thinks outside the box. Maybe he is the next bright young coach. Philbin will bring the Packers "style" and "philosophy" that works. Yeah he won't have Aaron Rodgers running it but its a proven philosophy that works in this league.

The only guy I don't want is Philbin.  His kid just died, and there is a chance football won't be on his brain 100%...then again, he could bury himself in his work to deal with it....too much of an X-factor.

Bowles is getting a lot of hype from other media markets.  In Tampa, a bunch of the radio heads are saying Miami would be idiots for not hiring Bowles.  That he said and changed three things and the mentality of the team changed.  They could have been talking out their asses because nothing specific was said on the changes, but I guess the team really rallied around Bowles.  Take it for what it's worth.

I like McCoy's adaptability.  That is crucial trait for a head coach.  I really hate it when coaches are hard headed and won't change things.

Interesting that you would say that. Because Sparano changed things up after starting 0-7, and got fired anyway. I know there were other things in play. But, I agree that adaptability is important. I also like originality. But the willingness to adapt means the ability to make adjustments.

I'm hoping McCoy changes things a lot sooner than Sparano when things don't go the teams way. You don't wait until after it's impossible to make the playoffs and then make changes.

It shouldn't take 0-7 to think maybe its time to make a change. Maybe after 0-2 Sparano should had opened his eyes to changing some things. Check that, maybe after year 2 and not the middle of year 4 he should have opened his mind to some adjustments.

Point taken. He should have changed sooner. Especially after that Texans game . Team showed no heart.

^^^ Really? I'm curious if you watch the games because the consensus has been that the team played with a lot of heart and never gave up.

And what did Sparano do? He quit coaching them. He gave the team back to the players and told them to just go out and make plays. And it worked. Which means that if we would have had a head coach that would have HELPED them win rather than hinder them, no telling what we could have done this year.

He did the same thing Bill Belichick did after the second game of the 2001 season.  He switched QBs because he had to. 

Actually that happened in week 4. They didn't start playing better until week 8. I don't think there's a direct cause and effect relationship. However if you ask the players, after week 6 or 7, sometime around that time, Sparano told them in a meeting that if they wanted to go 0-16, that was on them, not on him. He would be fired, but they'd all be out of jobs too because nobody would keep them around after an 0-16 campaign. He shortened practices. He quit emphasizing ball security and said they had to be responsible for their own actions. Basically he quit coaching them. Everything that Sparano believed to be how you win, he went against it. He simply turned the team over to the players and the players responded. They started being more aggressive on offense and quit worried about making mistakes. The started making interceptions that they had been dropping for 2 solid years because they were no longer worried that if they dropped it they were gonna get reamed. I'm not making this up, this came straight out of a players mouth. Not sure who it was that said it, but he said it turned the season around.

Sparano is old school. Play conservative. Don't make mistakes and you will win a close game. Well that doesn't work that well these days. You know what does? Being aggressive. Being risky. Playing balls out and letting the chips fall where they will. It doesn't always work, but it works more often then Sparano's style of football. He's a dinosaur. His kind is becoming extinct. I'm convinced that he held the team back the last 2 years rather than helped them move forward.

Sure Moore started playing better, but only after Sparano took the reigns off. He played just as bad, actully worse than Henne did in his first 3 starts prior to Sparano letting them just play. Go look at the stats. Here I'll give them to you.

SD and first 3 starts: 68 of 116. 58.6%. 706 yards for 6.08 yards per attempt. 1 TD. 4 INT's. 16 sacks and 3 fumbles. 5 runs (including scrambles) for 30 yards, a fumble and TD.

Now after week 7. 126 of 211 59.7%. 1,576 yards for 7.47 yard per attempt. 12 TDS. 5 INT's. 19 sacks and 4 fumbles. 16 runs for 31 yards, 4 fumbles and a TD.

Except for the fumbles (which by the way is the #1 thing that Moore needs to work on) he did much better after week 7. Not even close really.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/02/2529359/miami-dolphins-players-noticing.html

If this is true and he learned from it.  Sparano might be a great head coach if he gets a second shot at it down the road. 

OT: I had a similar experience in college and learned a ton about effective management.  I was working in the college cafe dishroom when all but 2 of us quit on the same day.  I was given the responsiblity of being the dishroom supervisor, but not the twenty five cent raise that the dishroom supervisor was suppose get.  This royally pissed me off.  So I refused to supervise.  By this time i had already trained all the new employees. (It takes like 5 mins to master each of the 7 different jobs in this dishroom).  Anytime someone asked me what to do I told them I wasn't in charge.  I was hoping and waiting for the dishroom to implode and then I was going to tell my boss off and that I was not going to supervise unless I get the raise.  To my great disappointment, the dishroom ran like a swiss watch even when we were short handed.  Everyone just did what needed to be done, nobody waited to be told what to do, etc.  I got tons of kuddos and complements from my boss, but no fucking money.

After I eventually quit in disgust (I also had a better job lined up) I thought about it and realized everything I had thought about what a supervisor was suppose to do was wrong and in fact my non-supervision was the way to go.  I used that lesson to my benfit in later jobs when I was a supervisor and it worked great.  Had I not had that experience I would have been a mircomanager any time I had a chance.   

Supervisors (like head coaches) should only remove road blocks for their employees. Employees (and players) don't need to be told how to work (or play), they need for anything that is preventing them from being productive to be removed.

In my line of work (programmer) that means getting rid of red tape. Don't handcuff us. Let us do our jobs. For the most part we know how to program, so tell us what you need done and get out of our way. If we have a problem we'll let you know, then step in and try to help us get passed it. Sure we are going to make mistakes, don't try to prevent us from making mistakes with red tape, help us overcome mistakes by eliminating red tape.

That's what a good head coach does. He sees the road blocks and removes them before you get to them. He doesn't constantly look over your shoulder and tell you to watch out for ever little obstacle over and over. That's just annoying, aggravating and DISTRACTING. Don't distract me from what I'm trying to do, help me limit the distractions.

^^^^ I agree.

But sometimes you only learn that by seeing it action. 

Why the hate on Bowles? Just because he was a Parcells guy, that means he can't coach? He also was a Mike Holmgren guy with the Packers and an Al Groh guy with the Jets. He may not be the flashy new name, but discluding every guy in the NFL who ever was associated with Parcells leaves a short list. FWIW, he's good enough to get an interview with the Raiders as well as Miami, so maybe there's more to him than some people realize. -EK

I don't understand the hate either. He didn't go 0-3, getting outscored 90-3 down the stretch. Given the circumstances, he is the best option. IMHO.

Preliminary reports had McCoy being the guy, but as of right now, he is back in Denver, Ross is back in South Florida, and all is quiet in Dolphins camp.  I think we can assume either no decision has been made or negotiations are ongoing but an agreement has not been reached.

I like Bowles for the job.

Al Groh is a Parcells guy!  Bowles is Sparano 2.0 he isn't what Miami needs. If the new coach wants to make him defensive coordinator, FINE. But there is a reason Bowles has interviewed for about 10 jobs the past 3 years (head coaching or coordinator) and hasn't gotten one of them. Everyone can't be wrong.

Armando Salguero told a story this morning on his radio show he got from a high ranking Dolphins official in the front office. When the Fins fired Sparano and promoted Todd. They went to Todd and said this is what Tony's schedule was and what we expect from you. Pretty much there at 5am in the morning and there till midnight or later. Telling him about his interview responsibility's with the media, his meetings with the QB's, meetings with the offense...blah blah blah, and all of the other little things that a head coach is responsible for. According to Armando, Todd was in total shock and didn't realize that much went into being a head coach and didn't realize how his life was going to change for 3 weeks. IF THAT isn't a huge red flag (and probably the reason why nobody has hired this guy around the league) I don't know what is!

I want no part of Todd Bowles as a head coach. And he has only gotten interviews mainly because he fills the "rooney rule" for these teams 90% of the time. Sad, but true!

Maybe the "shock" was from realizing that he didn't get to "run" the team. Maybe the "shock" was from realizing that they were putting him out there as a "token". If they were going to hold him to Tony's schedule, why "promote" him? Why fire the old guy? Why does this story come out the day they hire a new coach? What a shock, Bowles didn't get the job. Yet, a reason why Philbin gets the job, is because he was open to keeping Bowles as the DC. This just reeks of an arranged marriage.