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Title: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: Doc-phin on March 20, 2012, 02:39:51 pm The way I see it we have 4 needs left to fill (possibly).
Right tackle - could be filled by Murtha. Pass rusher - draft Wide receiver - draft. Future QB - draft or wait a year. We could debate a bit about tight end, but we don't really need more than one solid tight end in the west coast. Between Fasano and Clay, we can likely wait a year. We don't have much cap room left for free agents, but might be able to squeeze out a solid deal for Anderson. So lets assume my assessment is correct for a bit before we go all wacky shit off track like usual. How do you handle filling these needs and in what order? Take into account cap space. Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: EKnight on March 20, 2012, 02:45:02 pm Sign Anderson, draft Tannehill, Murtha is already there, draft a WR in round 2 by trading up if necessary. Profit. -EK
Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: bsfins on March 20, 2012, 02:53:51 pm IMO Safety,Cornerback needs added to that list...at least Depth Will Alllen is a free agent,and we just cut Bell...
Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: Doc-phin on March 20, 2012, 03:05:57 pm IMO Safety,Cornerback needs added to that list...at least Depth Will Alllen is a free agent,and we just cut Bell... Agree with depth. We have Smith and Davis outside, Jones at Strong Safety, Richard Marshall or Clemons at Free Safety, Richard Marshall or Wilson at nickel corner. Culver is a backup safety and Nolan Carrol is a backup corner. Not the best in the league, but a serviceable group none the less. I think we can get some players later in the draft. Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: JVides on March 20, 2012, 03:14:08 pm Draft best available OL (AGAIN!?), Pass rusher, or wideout at # 8. Double down on wideout in the second or third round, as there are several big, fast guys slated for around then (yes, I want Tommy Streeter. I'm a UM homer and he's a legit 6'5", 220 with 4.3 speed).
Leave free agency alone for now, reassess after the draft and second round of cuts (after teams reassess post-draft rosters). Anderson is a legitimately scary player in that he's great one year, awful for 3 after that, so I stay away. Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: tubba marxxx on March 20, 2012, 03:19:48 pm it might be shorter to list what Miami doesn't need:
Miami needs - an upgrade a QB a potential long term running back - Bush/Slaton one year deals..Thomas unproven a fullback (is Clay a FB or TE?) a WR - (Trade for Mike Wallace, please) a TE (Fasano is average at best, see about about Clay) a LT - Long only one year left on his contract, trade bait? who knows a LG - No sure on Incongnito's status..I think he has one or 2 years left a RG - Carey's gone a RT - Colombo's gone (thank god) Kendall Langford's replacement - is it Merling? OLB - Pass rush is desperately needed opposite Wake Secondary help - Allen, Bell gone, Richard Marshall was a decent pick up. Who's playing Safety? There's a lot more questions than answers here Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: Dolphster on March 20, 2012, 03:45:13 pm Suddenly, the FG kicker is the most important spot on the roster since the offense won't be sniffing the goal line this year. ;D
Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: tubba marxxx on March 20, 2012, 03:47:28 pm Suddenly, the FG kicker is the most important spot on the roster since the offense won't be sniffing the goal line this year. ;D Good thing Carpenter can hit from 60 Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: Doc-phin on March 20, 2012, 03:59:29 pm it might be shorter to list what Miami doesn't need: Miami needs - an upgrade a QB ----We all know this, how would you handle it? Draft one 1st round? Later round? Trade? Wait? Forget the free agents, that is over with. Give us something realistic. a potential long term running back - Bush/Slaton one year deals..Thomas unproven ----We can definately roll with what we have for now. a fullback (is Clay a FB or TE?) ---- Full Back is the lowest priority on any team and we got that guy from the CFL. a WR - (Trade for Mike Wallace, please) ----You seriously want to give up a 1st rounder and pay this guy the rediculous money he wants? What player or players are you giving up to make cap room for him? a TE (Fasano is average at best, see about about Clay) ---Like I said, we could debate this. How big of a priority is it and how would you realistically solve it since you think it needs to be addressed? a LT - Long only one year left on his contract, trade bait? who knows ---Not a need this year. Good chance at re-signing him. a LG - No sure on Incongnito's status..I think he has one or 2 years left ---Again, not a current need and we do have backups. a RG - Carey's gone ---Signed Hicks, Jerry is playing better. Not a need. Can easilly live with Nate Garner. a RT - Colombo's gone (thank god) ---Draft, Murtha or Hicks? What level of priority? If you sign a free agent, justify it and account for it financially. Kendall Langford's replacement - is it Merling? ---Yes. And Soliai who will likely get more play time. OLB - Pass rush is desperately needed opposite Wake ---Agreed. How do you get one? Secondary help - Allen, Bell gone, Richard Marshall was a decent pick up. Who's playing Safety? ---Answered this in my original post. Come on Tubba, use your head! Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: tubba marxxx on March 20, 2012, 04:05:14 pm ^ Forgive me for looking ahead to the future instead of the ever so popular band-aid effect we seem to roll with every year
Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: Doc-phin on March 20, 2012, 04:41:32 pm ^ Forgive me for looking ahead to the future instead of the ever so popular band-aid effect we seem to roll with every year Don't take my comment as an insult, I just want your opinion; the real one and not the one that is venting in the process. You can only do so much in a year. Classically, each year you get the chance to sign a couple of free agents and your top 3 draft picks are potential impact players. Waver wires, lower draft picks and undrafted free agents are where you find depth, developmental players and roll fillers (special teams). Of course you could build an entire roster on undrafted free agents and change out the entire roster if you wanted but it will be a shit team. Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: MikeO on March 20, 2012, 05:08:47 pm This team needs 2 legit WR's or else its gonna be a long year.
Tannehill being burried 3rd on the depth chart behind Moore and Garrard and getting no practice reps during the season doesn't help this team. If you draft Tannehill then get rid of Moore or Garrard and make Tannehill the #2 GB and let him get work in during the year during practice and in games too when the opportunity is there Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: tubba marxxx on March 20, 2012, 05:25:29 pm This draft is going to be the most important one of Ireland's tenure.
Here's what I would do: Round 1 - DE - Quinton Coples/UNC Round 2 - QB - Kirk Cousins/Mich St Round 3a - WR - Marvin McNutt/Iowa Round 3b - OT - Bobbie Massie/Ole Miss Round 4 - WR - Nick Toon/Wisconsin Round 5 - TE - Ladarius Green/Louisiana-Lafayette Round 6 - S - Phillip Thomas/Syracuse Round 7 - OLB - Adrian Hamilton/Prairie View A&M Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: Doc-phin on March 22, 2012, 03:02:00 pm This draft is going to be the most important one of Ireland's tenure. Here's what I would do: Round 1 - DE - Quinton Coples/UNC Round 2 - QB - Kirk Cousins/Mich St Round 3a - WR - Marvin McNutt/Iowa Round 3b - OT - Bobbie Massie/Ole Miss Round 4 - WR - Nick Toon/Wisconsin Round 5 - TE - Ladarius Green/Louisiana-Lafayette Round 6 - S - Phillip Thomas/Syracuse Round 7 - OLB - Adrian Hamilton/Prairie View A&M Nice work, Tubba. I think it is really hard to project specific players beyond mid 3rd round-ish, but I agree with the concept you have going there. Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: Doc-phin on March 22, 2012, 03:55:15 pm I would go with...
1st round - Tannehill (sit a year), Coples if Tannehill not available. Won't freak out if we go with Weedon or Upshaw. 2nd round - Weedon or Cousins (if we don't take a QB first round), best available pass rusher if QB already drafted. 3rd round - Double down on receivers. Might take a look at Naanee or Sims-Walker first. 4th round - Safety or Tackle (whichever has highest grade) 5th round - Safety or Tackle (whichever hasn't been drafted) 6th round - Corner It is between Murtha, Garner, Jerry and Hicks to sort out the right side of our starting line this year. Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: tubba marxxx on March 22, 2012, 09:02:39 pm Nice work, Tubba. I think it is really hard to project specific players beyond mid 3rd round-ish, but I agree with the concept you have going there. Oh I hear ya, I basically just went to draftcountdown.com and looked at the rankings of every position and got a rough idea of who would be around Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: Doc-phin on April 17, 2012, 11:39:20 am I would go with... 1st round - Tannehill (sit a year), Coples if Tannehill not available. Won't freak out if we go with Weedon or Upshaw. 2nd round - Weedon or Cousins (if we don't take a QB first round), best available pass rusher if QB already drafted. 3rd round - Double down on receivers. Might take a look at Naanee or Sims-Walker first. 4th round - Safety or Tackle (whichever has highest grade) 5th round - Safety or Tackle (whichever hasn't been drafted) 6th round - Corner It is between Murtha, Garner, Jerry and Hicks to sort out the right side of our starting line this year. Giving myself a bit of a bump. Now we don't have to double down on receivers. Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: MikeO on April 17, 2012, 06:13:21 pm Giving myself a bit of a bump. Now we don't have to double down on receivers. Well, if some WR's fall I would still grab two WR's. I mean we really only have Hartline and Bess. Naanee is ok. And Moore/Wallace have never really done much (moore had 1 big game vs Oakland once but that's it). Bottom line if Miami doesn't get Tannehill or Weeden this draft is a failure. Landing one of them is a must I feel. IF they could end up with one of those two and get the WR's Sanu and Toon between Rounds 2 and 3....I would do back-flips. Add a pass rusher and with our first 4 picks we get a QB, 2 WR's, and OLB/DE....that would be a heck of a first 3 rounds for Miami Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: Tenshot13 on April 18, 2012, 04:06:53 pm I'm big on Sanu...I've watched him rape my Bulls the past few years.
Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: EKnight on April 18, 2012, 04:49:21 pm I like Sanu's size, but man... 4.67? For a receiver? There were some linemen with faster 40 times than that....not sure I'm a fan of drafting this guy. -EK
Title: Re: Positions of Need, Re-assessed 03-20-12 Post by: MikeO on April 18, 2012, 06:43:38 pm I'm big on Sanu...I've watched him rape my Bulls the past few years. Very good player, good height, good speed for his height, good hands. He fits the west coast offense perfectly and would be a huge help for Miami. Great red-zone target. Reminds me of Oronde Gadsden type build with better speed. |